Majority of Israeli Jews show that they are racist

[P F Tinmore]

So we agree, then, that Palestine defines a geographical area, but is not a State.

We agree there was no state called Israel between the 2nd and 20th centuries.

And there was not a State of Palestine between the 2nd and the 20th centuries. Now there is an Israel. But there still is not a Palestine.

That doesn't mean there can't be a State of Palestine. There are lots of States that exist now that never existed before. In fact, there are probably more States now than there have ever been.

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Have you considered speaking at the UN?

There are already plenty of UN resolutions sitting on a shelf collecting dust.

 

[Sixties Fan]

So we agree, then, that Palestine defines a geographical area, but is not a State.

We agree there was no state called Israel between the 2nd and 20th centuries.

And there was not a State of Palestine between the 2nd and the 20th centuries. Now there is an Israel. But there still is not a Palestine.

That doesn't mean there can't be a State of Palestine. There are lots of States that exist now that never existed before. In fact, there are probably more States now than there have ever been.

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Have you considered speaking at the UN?

There are already plenty of UN resolutions sitting on a shelf collecting dust.

Which is where they should be if not totally burned for their worthlessness.

What a waste of trees

 

[Shusha]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

 

[Indeependent]

So we agree, then, that Palestine defines a geographical area, but is not a State.

We agree there was no state called Israel between the 2nd and 20th centuries.

And there was not a State of Palestine between the 2nd and the 20th centuries. Now there is an Israel. But there still is not a Palestine.

That doesn't mean there can't be a State of Palestine. There are lots of States that exist now that never existed before. In fact, there are probably more States now than there have ever been.

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Have you considered speaking at the UN?

There are already plenty of UN resolutions sitting on a shelf collecting dust.

You do realize a Resolution is like writing a note to remind you to buy milk.
Your inability to deal with reality is kind of scary.

 

[BulletProof]

People are people, regardless of religious persuasion.
Judaism has no laws regarding negative treatment of non-Jews.
And in case you decide to make an ass of yourself by quoting the Talmud from Rense.com, Jews do not determine law from the Talmud.
The Talmud contains judicial and philisophical discourse, not law.

If a Jew wasn't lying, he wouldn't be Jew. A lying Jew says "Judaism has no laws regarding negative treatment non-Jews." For example, Israel's ban on immigration of non-Jews, even for spouses of Jews, while extending automatic citizen to all the Jews in the world, is not negative treatment of no-Jews?

 

[Indeependent]

People are people, regardless of religious persuasion.
Judaism has no laws regarding negative treatment of non-Jews.
And in case you decide to make an ass of yourself by quoting the Talmud from Rense.com, Jews do not determine law from the Talmud.
The Talmud contains judicial and philisophical discourse, not law.

If a Jew wasn't lying, he wouldn't be Jew. A lying Jew says "Judaism has no laws regarding negative treatment non-Jews." For example, Israel's ban on immigration of non-Jews, even for spouses of Jews, while extending automatic citizen to all the Jews in the world, is not negative treatment of no-Jews?

It's easy...
People are allowed in and their input into society is evaluated for 2 years.
If they are a bad influence, goodbye.
It's really that easy.

 

[thomosbaysore]

The original post was about whether Israeli-Jews were racist.

What I do for a living is irrelevant.

Some are and most are not.

And you would have to prove, again, that Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out.

Are most people in America racists?
I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists.

Are Israeli Muslims racists?
Are Israeli Christians racists?

But you are focusing on "Israeli Jews"

Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years.

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Wave-of-terror-October-2015.aspx
------------

By all means......

Keep calling Jews in Israel racists just because they would like to BE safe in their own country from non citizens who are infiltrating and committing crimes against them.

And call Jews in America racists as well, and disloyal to America as you just did.

Let us not, AT ALL, discuss your racism.

Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article.

Keep swimming in your racism of Israel.

Start another thread with more allegations and assertions and so on and so forth.

Your attempts are nothing new in the world of Jew hatred.

It has been going on for the past 2000 years, started by a nice sweet person who had no use for Judaism or Jews anymore.

"Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out."

Until their status is established they are refugees.
According to the convention and protocol relating to the status of refugees

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances


"I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists."

So now the poll was flawed and not indicative?


"Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years"

And I repeat, lets compare the numbers with more than 2,100 Palestinians killed during the last Gaza war, 7 in 10 being civilians. And many more since. Who is the greater evil?


"Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article."

No, all you have done is divert the subject, ignore the facts, and attack me. It's all in black and white.

Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story.

2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that, any more on how many were combatants who belonged to Hamas or the other militia groups in Gaza.

Are you saying that all 2100 were unarmed and did not fire rockets, or were armed, or did not attack Israeli soldiers during that war?

Civilian Gazans are involved in the war of 2014? Only civilians?

You keep changing the thread subjects to the war in Gaza.

Once the neighboring Muslim countries start offering those Africans asylum and not shooting at them on site, then you will have a case.

Israel has absolutely no obligation to absorb anyone, from any country if it endangers the population or the country itself.

It has been established that too many of them are a danger to the Israeli population, so you will have to keep feeling superior and invite them to your country to live with you.

Do as the Canadians have done

Thousands of African migrants have left Israel for West — report

"Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story."

Israel is not establishing that since they are offering two options, leave or go to jail as the alternative.

They are not processing them at all.

You (conveniently) chose to avoid the sections of the charter on refugees of which Israel is a signatory, so I will repeat it:

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to.

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

"2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that,"

Keep avoiding. 7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

Are you denying the UN sources figures?

And I repeat who is the greater terrorist, Israel or the Palestinians?

Simple questions, can you answer them or are you a sly coward who avoids the questions you don't like?

The problem I have with your posts is that you want ONE answer and ONE answer only.

"Israel is a racist country"

THAT is what you want to hear.

Your racism against Jews and Israel demands that.
I can feel you dancing in your chair when you write these allegations.

You have no knowledge of the issues in Israel and NO, Israel is not obligated to take in EVERY person who crosses its borders illegally in order to live in Israel.

From the site you posted:

There are some 27,000 Eritreans and 7,700 Sudanese in Israel. Since Israel took over refugee status determination from UNHCR in 2009, only ten Eritreans and one Sudanese have been recognized as refugees. Another 200 Sudanese, all from Darfur, were granted humanitarian status in Israel and there was an announcement that another 300 will follow. Israel has not received any Eritreans or Sudanese since May 2016.

UNHCR stands ready to work with Israel to find alternative solutions for the protection needs of asylum seekers, in line with international standards. This includes resettlement out of Israel, as has happened previously.

-----
In other words, like any other country, Israel does make sure that the people she is going to grant refugee status are clearly refugees and not simply anyone who wants to come and live there.

"Come on in, just walk into the country, sign on the dotted line and come and live here."
THAT does not happen anywhere in the world.

No Arab Muslim country is taking even ONE of them. No issues for you there, especially since these people cross into Egypt in order to get to Israel.
No need to ask why they do not choose to stay in Egypt, or go to Morocco, Tunisia, Lybia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, or even Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Jordan. Any one of these countries has offered to take any of these people in? Where are the open arms? They have not signed in? Why? No Russia, no Turkey. Such vast territories, and not one of them is offering them refuge? But small Israel must do so.

There are real reasons why Israel cannot take in these so many alleged refugees, and you do not care about them.
The main one....it is at war with its neighbors until a Peace treaty happens
It does not have the economy to take in all these people you wish to drown her with, as so many Israeli citizens need attention first.
Israel has every right to protect its population, and that includes Jews, Arabs, Druze, Bedouins from what could become and endless influx of infiltrators who seek a new place to live.

That is what every country does.

But, as always:

One standard for Israel, and another for the rest of the world.


Go ahead, shout to the four winds:

"Israel is a racist country"

All you like.

Israel will continue to do what is right for herself and the whole population, you understand it, like it or not.


Spit all the hatred out.

Let it out.......

That's a good Israel and Jew hater.

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

NOTED AS CONTINUALLY DODGED...........

Gaza War
7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

NOTED AS CONTINUALLY DODGED...........

Weak Sixties Fan, weak.

 

[thomosbaysore]

↑↑↑ pretty good.

So everyone, repeat after me: "Israel is racist". Now this will make the OP happy.

/end of thread

Lol.

I wouldn't be laughing if I were you, and you're a true Anglo American, Jews controls your arse.

 

[thomosbaysore]

The original post was about whether Israeli-Jews were racist.

What I do for a living is irrelevant.

Some are and most are not.

And you would have to prove, again, that Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out.

Are most people in America racists?
I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists.

Are Israeli Muslims racists?
Are Israeli Christians racists?

But you are focusing on "Israeli Jews"

Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years.

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Wave-of-terror-October-2015.aspx
------------

By all means......

Keep calling Jews in Israel racists just because they would like to BE safe in their own country from non citizens who are infiltrating and committing crimes against them.

And call Jews in America racists as well, and disloyal to America as you just did.

Let us not, AT ALL, discuss your racism.

Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article.

Keep swimming in your racism of Israel.

Start another thread with more allegations and assertions and so on and so forth.

Your attempts are nothing new in the world of Jew hatred.

It has been going on for the past 2000 years, started by a nice sweet person who had no use for Judaism or Jews anymore.

"Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out."

Until their status is established they are refugees.
According to the convention and protocol relating to the status of refugees

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances


"I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists."

So now the poll was flawed and not indicative?


"Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years"

And I repeat, lets compare the numbers with more than 2,100 Palestinians killed during the last Gaza war, 7 in 10 being civilians. And many more since. Who is the greater evil?


"Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article."

No, all you have done is divert the subject, ignore the facts, and attack me. It's all in black and white.

Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story.

2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that, any more on how many were combatants who belonged to Hamas or the other militia groups in Gaza.

Are you saying that all 2100 were unarmed and did not fire rockets, or were armed, or did not attack Israeli soldiers during that war?

Civilian Gazans are involved in the war of 2014? Only civilians?

You keep changing the thread subjects to the war in Gaza.

Once the neighboring Muslim countries start offering those Africans asylum and not shooting at them on site, then you will have a case.

Israel has absolutely no obligation to absorb anyone, from any country if it endangers the population or the country itself.

It has been established that too many of them are a danger to the Israeli population, so you will have to keep feeling superior and invite them to your country to live with you.

Do as the Canadians have done

Thousands of African migrants have left Israel for West — report

"Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story."

Israel is not establishing that since they are offering two options, leave or go to jail as the alternative.

They are not processing them at all.

You (conveniently) chose to avoid the sections of the charter on refugees of which Israel is a signatory, so I will repeat it:

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to.

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

"2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that,"

Keep avoiding. 7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

Are you denying the UN sources figures?

And I repeat who is the greater terrorist, Israel or the Palestinians?

Simple questions, can you answer them or are you a sly coward who avoids the questions you don't like?

I guess you should share this with all the Arabs at the UN that recognize Israel.
Hurry!

No answers from another dodger.

You really are a sly bunch

 

[Indeependent]

Some are and most are not.

And you would have to prove, again, that Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out.

Are most people in America racists?
I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists.

Are Israeli Muslims racists?
Are Israeli Christians racists?

But you are focusing on "Israeli Jews"

Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years.

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Wave-of-terror-October-2015.aspx
------------

By all means......

Keep calling Jews in Israel racists just because they would like to BE safe in their own country from non citizens who are infiltrating and committing crimes against them.

And call Jews in America racists as well, and disloyal to America as you just did.

Let us not, AT ALL, discuss your racism.

Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article.

Keep swimming in your racism of Israel.

Start another thread with more allegations and assertions and so on and so forth.

Your attempts are nothing new in the world of Jew hatred.

It has been going on for the past 2000 years, started by a nice sweet person who had no use for Judaism or Jews anymore.

"Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out."

Until their status is established they are refugees.
According to the convention and protocol relating to the status of refugees

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances


"I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists."

So now the poll was flawed and not indicative?


"Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years"

And I repeat, lets compare the numbers with more than 2,100 Palestinians killed during the last Gaza war, 7 in 10 being civilians. And many more since. Who is the greater evil?


"Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article."

No, all you have done is divert the subject, ignore the facts, and attack me. It's all in black and white.

Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story.

2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that, any more on how many were combatants who belonged to Hamas or the other militia groups in Gaza.

Are you saying that all 2100 were unarmed and did not fire rockets, or were armed, or did not attack Israeli soldiers during that war?

Civilian Gazans are involved in the war of 2014? Only civilians?

You keep changing the thread subjects to the war in Gaza.

Once the neighboring Muslim countries start offering those Africans asylum and not shooting at them on site, then you will have a case.

Israel has absolutely no obligation to absorb anyone, from any country if it endangers the population or the country itself.

It has been established that too many of them are a danger to the Israeli population, so you will have to keep feeling superior and invite them to your country to live with you.

Do as the Canadians have done

Thousands of African migrants have left Israel for West — report

"Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story."

Israel is not establishing that since they are offering two options, leave or go to jail as the alternative.

They are not processing them at all.

You (conveniently) chose to avoid the sections of the charter on refugees of which Israel is a signatory, so I will repeat it:

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to.

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

"2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that,"

Keep avoiding. 7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

Are you denying the UN sources figures?

And I repeat who is the greater terrorist, Israel or the Palestinians?

Simple questions, can you answer them or are you a sly coward who avoids the questions you don't like?

I guess you should share this with all the Arabs at the UN that recognize Israel.
Hurry!

No answers from another dodger.

You really are a sly bunch

So tell us why all the Arab nations recognize Israel.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Some are and most are not.

And you would have to prove, again, that Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out.

Are most people in America racists?
I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists.

Are Israeli Muslims racists?
Are Israeli Christians racists?

But you are focusing on "Israeli Jews"

Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years.

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Wave-of-terror-October-2015.aspx
------------

By all means......

Keep calling Jews in Israel racists just because they would like to BE safe in their own country from non citizens who are infiltrating and committing crimes against them.

And call Jews in America racists as well, and disloyal to America as you just did.

Let us not, AT ALL, discuss your racism.

Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article.

Keep swimming in your racism of Israel.

Start another thread with more allegations and assertions and so on and so forth.

Your attempts are nothing new in the world of Jew hatred.

It has been going on for the past 2000 years, started by a nice sweet person who had no use for Judaism or Jews anymore.

"Israel does not have the right to keep infiltrators out of its borders and kick those who came in, out."

Until their status is established they are refugees.
According to the convention and protocol relating to the status of refugees

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances


"I would say not, even if some poll of some people in the country came out saying that most of those polled are racists."

So now the poll was flawed and not indicative?


"Are the Israeli Muslims attacking Jews and others with knives, screw drivers, cars, etc racists and other non Muslims?

How many non Israeli Jews have Israeli civilian Jews in Israel attacked in the past three years compared with how many Jews and other non Jews have been attacked by Israeli Muslims or Christians.
And I am talking about all of them being citizens.

Because then, we can ask how many non Israeli Jews have attacked non Israeli Muslims and Christians in Israel proper, or in Judea, Samaria or even in Gaza.

Let us have a poll of that.

Or better still, let us have the reports of attacks for the past three years"

And I repeat, lets compare the numbers with more than 2,100 Palestinians killed during the last Gaza war, 7 in 10 being civilians. And many more since. Who is the greater evil?


"Well, I and others have explained and put to rest your idea that most Jews in Israel are racists based on some poll and ONE article."

No, all you have done is divert the subject, ignore the facts, and attack me. It's all in black and white.

Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story.

2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that, any more on how many were combatants who belonged to Hamas or the other militia groups in Gaza.

Are you saying that all 2100 were unarmed and did not fire rockets, or were armed, or did not attack Israeli soldiers during that war?

Civilian Gazans are involved in the war of 2014? Only civilians?

You keep changing the thread subjects to the war in Gaza.

Once the neighboring Muslim countries start offering those Africans asylum and not shooting at them on site, then you will have a case.

Israel has absolutely no obligation to absorb anyone, from any country if it endangers the population or the country itself.

It has been established that too many of them are a danger to the Israeli population, so you will have to keep feeling superior and invite them to your country to live with you.

Do as the Canadians have done

Thousands of African migrants have left Israel for West — report

"Infiltrators are not refugees. End of story."

Israel is not establishing that since they are offering two options, leave or go to jail as the alternative.

They are not processing them at all.

You (conveniently) chose to avoid the sections of the charter on refugees of which Israel is a signatory, so I will repeat it:

Article 3
non-discrimination
The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refu-
gees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

Article 26
Freedom of movement
Each Contracting State shall accord to refugees lawfully in its territory the
right to choose their place of residence to move freely within its territory,
subject to any regulations applicable to aliens generally in the same circum-
stances

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to.

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

"2100 Palestinians in Gaza were not civilians. Some were, and you do not have the information on that,"

Keep avoiding. 7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

Are you denying the UN sources figures?

And I repeat who is the greater terrorist, Israel or the Palestinians?

Simple questions, can you answer them or are you a sly coward who avoids the questions you don't like?

The problem I have with your posts is that you want ONE answer and ONE answer only.

"Israel is a racist country"

THAT is what you want to hear.

Your racism against Jews and Israel demands that.
I can feel you dancing in your chair when you write these allegations.

You have no knowledge of the issues in Israel and NO, Israel is not obligated to take in EVERY person who crosses its borders illegally in order to live in Israel.

From the site you posted:

There are some 27,000 Eritreans and 7,700 Sudanese in Israel. Since Israel took over refugee status determination from UNHCR in 2009, only ten Eritreans and one Sudanese have been recognized as refugees. Another 200 Sudanese, all from Darfur, were granted humanitarian status in Israel and there was an announcement that another 300 will follow. Israel has not received any Eritreans or Sudanese since May 2016.

UNHCR stands ready to work with Israel to find alternative solutions for the protection needs of asylum seekers, in line with international standards. This includes resettlement out of Israel, as has happened previously.

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In other words, like any other country, Israel does make sure that the people she is going to grant refugee status are clearly refugees and not simply anyone who wants to come and live there.

"Come on in, just walk into the country, sign on the dotted line and come and live here."
THAT does not happen anywhere in the world.

No Arab Muslim country is taking even ONE of them. No issues for you there, especially since these people cross into Egypt in order to get to Israel.
No need to ask why they do not choose to stay in Egypt, or go to Morocco, Tunisia, Lybia, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, or even Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Jordan. Any one of these countries has offered to take any of these people in? Where are the open arms? They have not signed in? Why? No Russia, no Turkey. Such vast territories, and not one of them is offering them refuge? But small Israel must do so.

There are real reasons why Israel cannot take in these so many alleged refugees, and you do not care about them.
The main one....it is at war with its neighbors until a Peace treaty happens
It does not have the economy to take in all these people you wish to drown her with, as so many Israeli citizens need attention first.
Israel has every right to protect its population, and that includes Jews, Arabs, Druze, Bedouins from what could become and endless influx of infiltrators who seek a new place to live.

That is what every country does.

But, as always:

One standard for Israel, and another for the rest of the world.


Go ahead, shout to the four winds:

"Israel is a racist country"

All you like.

Israel will continue to do what is right for herself and the whole population, you understand it, like it or not.


Spit all the hatred out.

Let it out.......

That's a good Israel and Jew hater.

Unless 100% of entrants are not refugees (which Israel are not even establishing first) then Israel are contravening the charter they signed up to

Simple question for you, do you agree or disagree?

NOTED AS CONTINUALLY DODGED...........

Gaza War
7 out of 10 were civilians (Source: United Nations). That's over 1470 civilians out of over 2100 Palestinians.

NOTED AS CONTINUALLY DODGED...........

Weak Sixties Fan, weak.

Israel does not need your approval on who is a refugee and who is not.
Neither does any other country you would like to shove people into them in order to help destroy them.
The idea of forcing Israel to absorb all who come inside her borders is an anti Israel idea which is not going to work.
Criticism of Israel, endless, does not make the country cave in to those who wish to destroy her.

Find some other way of attempting to destroy Israel. There are so many out there, this thread is just another attempt to undermine Israel's rights.

Israel does not need your anti Israel sources to know how many were civilians, and how many were combatants in the 2014 war, or any other war against her.

Go ahead, attack again and again and again......and again....and again.....


yawnnnnn

 

[Sixties Fan]

↑↑↑ pretty good.

So everyone, repeat after me: "Israel is racist". Now this will make the OP happy.

/end of thread

Lol.

I wouldn't be laughing if I were you, and you're a true Anglo American, Jews controls your arse.

He prefers Jews to control his arse , to Muslims and Christians to control yours.

Just take a look at the contribution Jews have made to the world, compared to contributions Muslims and Christians have made.

No competition on how Jews have always made this world a better place for everyone

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

 

[Indeependent]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

Link?

And the UN disagreed with you then and now.
Your turn, P F Retard.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

Link?

And the UN disagreed with you then and now.
Your turn, P F Retard.

Ask RoccoR, he is the one who posted that info. He has the link.

 

[Indeependent]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

Link?

And the UN disagreed with you then and now.
Your turn, P F Retard.

Ask RoccoR, he is the one who posted that info. He has the link.

Link?

 

[Shusha]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

And the UN recognized Israel. As in recognized that the Mandate was complete because Israel was able to stand alone.

 

[montelatici]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

And the UN recognized Israel. As in recognized that the Mandate was complete because Israel was able to stand alone.

But, they threw out or killed half of the population that was left in the Jewish partition.

 

[Shusha]

Palestine was created by post WWI treaties. The Mandate, according to the League of Nations Covenant, was to assist in bringing the country up to independence. Britain failed to follow the Covenant and left without fulfilling its responsibility.

Palestine's territory was defined in post WWI treaties. That did not make it a State. The Mandate was to assist in bringing the country to independence -- as the National Homeland for the Jewish people. This was most certainly achieved. The British left because they no longer had a role to play in the development of the people and the sovereignty there. Israel took the reins. Job done.

Not true. Britain passed the baton to the UN, not to Israel, when they left Palestine

And the UN recognized Israel. As in recognized that the Mandate was complete because Israel was able to stand alone.

But, they threw out or killed half of the population that was left in the Jewish partition.

The Arabs threw out or killed the entire population. What is your point?

 

[montelatici]

As you see, though non-Jews (including Bedouins) outnumbered the Jews in the Jew partition. The Jews were given the authority to rule over non-Jews over 55% of the land. With more than a third of the Palestinian Christians and Muslims relegated to Jew rule, how could the Palestinians accept the deal?

A/364 of 3 September 1947