MAGA and die hard Trump supporters..... The difference

[kyzr]

It’s absolutely indefensible that Trump was covering for the trafficking, the “Elites” who abused the trafficked children and the Intel Agencies who benefited from the blackmail and extortion. Indefensible.

Anyone can type lies, got a link?

 

[Billiejeens]

It sounds like you are reading right off a Mark Levin propaganda script when I read this.

What points are wrong?

 

[YoursTruly]

So what kind of GOP do you want?
A Deep State/One World/Globalist GOP?
A completely isolationist GOP?
Inquiring minds want to know!

The same one we had when this country was actually great.

Small, limited government that lives within it's means. That doesn't police the world. That stays out of the free market and doesn't pick winners and losers. That doesn't over inflate our currency.
One that's not a social or corporate welfare state.

You know, things that actual conservatives used to support.

Not like these RINO's are pushing now.

 

[JWBooth]

There is no reasoning with Israel First "MAGA" Imposters. They want to use "MAGA" as a springboard to achieve their own goals for a foreign nation, which do not align with ours. The Muslims in the Middle East are fanatics, while Israel is just the same. Not our war! America first.

Israel is just another nation. No more special than Mongolia, Uruguay, Tanganyika, or Uzbekistan. What the others have over Israel is that they aren't sponges for huge amounts of US taxpayer's money.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Israel has a lot of socialism. A national healthcare plan. And that $4 billion+ we give him helps to pay for that socialism.
Not to mention the fact that Judaism is closer to Islam than Christianity. FFS, they don't even believe Jesus is the son of god.

There's some deep rooted swamp stuff going on with Israel. And I highly doubt it has anything to do with their so called democracy, religion or location in the middle east.

Israel is hostile to Christians and they don't even believe in Jesus as the son of God. More and more Christians are seeing through that lie, and see that there is no common interests with a religion that denies the divinity of Christ.

If Israel was a Christian Nation that shared the same values as the US, I would have a lot less of a problem with them.

 

[JWBooth]

Israel is hostile to Christians and they don't even believe in Jesus as the son of God. More and more Christians are seeing through that lie, and see that there is no common interests with a religion that denies the divinity of Christ.

If Israel was a Christian Nation that shared the same values as the US, I would have a lot less of a problem with them.

Israel is a secular nation hiding behind a veil of religion.
If you want to go the religious direction, they were given their messiah, and have rejected him for 2000 years.

 

[JanetTheGreat]

Israel is just another nation. No more special than Mongolia, Uruguay, Tanganyika, or Uzbekistan. What the others have over Israel is that they aren't sponges for huge amounts of US taxpayer's money.

Those who see it as something special are loyal to Israel, not the United States. Those with that mindset don't deserve to hold any kind of office or influence over our police. We elect our leaders to serve US. Nobody else. If they can't accept that, they are free to leave. It shows they are in it for the money, they never had our backs. We are only a cashcow for them, nothing more. The US and Israel are certainly not "friends".

 

[kyzr]

Facts that you Trump loyalist don't agree with, is what's wrong with me. (according to you)

RINO's (dem-lites) are destroying the GOP as much as the NEOCONs did.

We want the democrats to be divided, not Republicans.
I'm assuming you're a Never-Trumper, since you call Republican voters "Trump Loyalists".

 

[YoursTruly]

Israel is hostile to Christians and they don't even believe in Jesus as the son of God. More and more Christians are seeing through that lie, and see that there is no common interests with a religion that denies the divinity of Christ.

If Israel was a Christian Nation that shared the same values as the US, I would have a lot less of a problem with them.

Yeah I don't get it. In Israel, Christians aren't respected. But they do love our money.

 

[Lisa558]

Hard right and intellectually bereft.

Says a leftist.

 

[Lisa558]

Israel is hostile to Christians and they don't even believe in Jesus as the son of God. More and more Christians are seeing through that lie, and see that there is no common interests with a religion that denies the divinity of Christ.

If Israel was a Christian Nation that shared the same values as the US, I would have a lot less of a problem with them.

And boom! There it is again - the connection between hating Israel and disdain for Jews.

“I’m not against Jews, just against Israel.” And then…. “They deny the divinity of Christ!”

These antisemites can’t HELP but reveal themselves.

 

[YoursTruly]

We want the democrats to be divided, not Republicans.
I'm assuming you're a Never-Trumper, since you call Republican voters "Trump Loyalists".

I'd be a forever Trumper if Trump would get on the fiscal conservative bandwagon and stop attacking them.
FFS, in his almost 5 years as president, he's only vetoed 1 spending bill. And even that one, he vetoed because it didn't spend enough.
I simply can not support big spending, big government politicians. Especially ones that support socialism, like Trump does.
Geezus, that's why I don't support democrats. So why would I make an exception for a Republican?

Political loyalty is retarded.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Anyone can type lies, got a link?

 

[YoursTruly]

And boom! There it is again - the connection between hating Israel and disdain for Jews.

“I’m not against Jews, just against Israel.” And then…. “They deny the divinity of Christ!”

These antisemites can’t HELP but reveal themselves.

You can respect the religion and still not like the religious/political leaders for their actions.

 

[Lisa558]

You can respect the religion and still not like the religious/political leaders for their actions.

Except Janet the Great doesn’t respect our religion, as she exclaims “their religion denies the divinity of Christ!”

I thought she said being against Israel had nothing to do with being against Jews? yeah, riiiiiight…..

 

[kyzr]

The same GOP we had when this country was actually great.

Like now?

Small, limited government that lives within it's means. That doesn't police the world. That stays out of the free market and doesn't pick winners and losers. That doesn't over inflate our currency.

Like now?

One that's not a social or corporate welfare state.

Like now?

You know, things that actual conservatives used to support.
Not like these RINO's are pushing now.

Conservatives used to lose elections until Trump unleashed the Populists. You're welcome.

 

[Lisa558]

Janet the Not-Great just admitted that her disdain for Israel is because it’s not a “Christian Nation.”

Can these Jew-haters BE more blatant with their antisemitism, while insisting their hate for Israel is unrelated to Jews?

 

[Foxfyre]

MAGA is one thing. And the DHTS (die hard Trump supporters) are another.

MAGA voted for massive reductions in spending. End the wars. DOGE. Stopping the democrats agenda. Releasing the Epstein list/files/evidence. We voted for a restoration of our constitutional republic. Abolishing the Dept. of Ed. Draining the swamp. Securing the borders.
DHTS voted for revenge on the democrats. And that's pretty much it. Nobody But Trump.

What we've gotten is more socialism. A never ending war in Ukraine. College tuition funding. Increased spending. 100% funding of the Dept. of Ed. & funding universities. Foreign aid to just about any country with it's hand out. H1-B visa's, by the hundreds of thousands, because Trump says the USA doesn't have talent.


Imagine Trump campaign on what he's done so far:
Spend more than Biden
Attack fiscal conservatives
Keep funding Ukraine and Israel
Continue with foreign aid to every country with their hand out
Get rid of Elon when Elon opposed the MASSIVE BBB
Take ownership of private companies.
Not go after Fauci
Not release the Epstein evidence

Would you still have voted for him if that's what he campaign on?

I don't think I have ever met or have seen a post from a 'die hard Trump supporter.' Where do you find people like that?

I know a LOT of MAGAs though who support President Trump's vision of a free, secure, prosperous America with maximum reasonable liberty, choices, options, opportunities for all Americans. And they are Patriots who push back on the dishonest propaganda and hate speech that attempts to dishonestly accuse and demonize the President and take away his significant accomplishments.

That MAGAs don't buy into the dishonest and hateful propaganda from the left and the otherwise TDS inflicted doesn't make them 'die hard' about anything.

 

[kyzr]

I'd be a forever Trumper if Trump would get on the fiscal conservative bandwagon and stop attacking them.
FFS, in his almost 5 years as president, he's only vetoed 1 spending bill. And even that one, he vetoed because it didn't spend enough.
I simply can not support big spending, big government politicians. Especially ones that support socialism, like Trump does.
Geezus, that's why I don't support democrats. So why would I make an exception for a Republican? Political loyalty is retarded.

1. The BBB cut $1.5T off Biden's last budget
2. Trump's tariffs are raising $400b in new revenue
3. DOGE cut $214b of government waste
4. Trump and the GOP are cutting fraud in entitlements that exploded under Biden
5. If you think Trump is a big spender look at these from the democrats, can congress claw this $400b back?

Exclusive | $375B EPA slush fund handled by John Podesta gave billions to charities founded only months earlier

The EPA gave out $20 billion to environmental justice and green credit groups that had barely registered with the IRS.

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Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants | US EPA

EPA News Release: Administrator Zeldin Terminates Biden-Harris $20B 'Gold Bar' Grants

www.epa.gov

Biden sent $2 billion to Stacey Abrams-linked group in green energy 'scheme,' EPA says

The Environmental Protection Agency found that the Biden administration gave $2 billion to a climate group linked to Stacey Abrams.

www.foxnews.com

The $42 billion internet program that has connected 0 people

The federal BEAD program makes little sense with the rate of private markets providing internet access.

www.washingtonpolicy.org

 

[Lockback]

The same one we had when this country was actually great.

Small, limited government that lives within it's means. That doesn't police the world. That stays out of the free market and doesn't pick winners and losers. That doesn't over inflate our currency.
One that's not a social or corporate welfare state.

You know, things that actual conservatives used to support.

Not like these RINO's are pushing now.

Well, that's all well and good but we haven't lived in that world since, oh, about Woodrow Wilson. Or maybe as late as Eisenhower in the Fifties. But even then we were diddling other countries and expanding the welfare state. You've gotta go back a long, long way to capture the America that you - and I - would love to have back.