'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal

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'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal​

'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal

townhall.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By Spencer Brown
After nearly two decades of America's presence at Bagram Airfield, U.S. forces apparently turned off the lights and left under the cover of night, all without notifying the Afghan forces left behind. The Afghan commander "discovered the Americans’ departure more than two hours after they left," according to new reporting from the Associated Press based on conversations with members of Afghan security forces.
The Pentagon confirmed Friday that the last U.S. forces had left Bagram Airfield north of Kabul, Afghanistan, but days later we're getting a more complete picture of America's departure that marked a major milestone in President Biden's withdrawal plan.
In the immediate aftermath of American forces' departure, looters descended and "ransacked barrack after barrack and rummaged through giant storage tents" on the base that for years was the launching point for attacks on al-Qaida targets. Afghan forces were eventually able to clear the looters and re-secure the base after America's surprise withdrawal.
~Snip~
As Americans celebrated Independence Day, more than 1,000 members of the Afghan military fled across the border with Tajikistan in their latest retreat from the Taliban, according to Tajik reports from the country's border authority.
One Afghan soldier at Bagram told the AP that "in one night, they lost all the goodwill of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area."
Another told of how, "within 20 minutes of the U.S.’s silent departure on Friday, the electricity was shut down and the base was plunged into darkness... like a signal to the looters."
The Afghan commander who is now in charge of Bagram told the Associated Press that "we have to secure our country and once again build our country with our own hands" and asserted he's confident any future attacks would be repelled by Afghan forces.
~Snip~
Questions in the U.S. continue to swirl regarding Afghanistan's future along with the security of the American embassy in Kabul and what will be done to protect Afghan translators who assisted American forces while they await visas. President Biden refused to answer questions about his administration's withdrawal plan last week, citing Independence Day as the reason he wouldn't address the subject.


Comment:
Hmm...., with the current flag officers and the ass clowns on the JCOS maybe the Afghanis are better off without us. Sorry folks. It's not about winning any longer. Thanks to all that sacrificed their time and efforts, lives and limbs in the middle east debacle. Some folks do appreciate your efforts.
Yet somehow our fearless leader Joey Xi touts that America is back and people can depend on the US again after the bad orange man was sent packing. At least people knew where we/they stood with Trump. Our military sneaking away in the night is disgraceful. But indicative of the methods of Bia Dung and the PM/DSA Democrat Left that handle him.

The Afghan army have been half hearted about killing other Afghanis , but they were employed.

 

[Colin norris]

So you would rather us stay there forever?

Strange...that is the same thing McCain wanted. You know....the guy you hate now but supported then? Strange....that is the same thing Bush wanted. You know...the guy you hate now but supported then?

We should have packed up the whole circus when Obama killed Bin Laden.

You won't satisfy a Republican with a hatred like they have.

 

[Coyote]

it’s just so sad watching xiden the. his back on all these people that helped us fight the taliban. they are all going to be slaughtered, their women raped…just a nightmare what xiden is allowing to happen

Did you find it sad when ChiCommTrump turned his back on all those people in Syria who helped us fight ISIS, and left them to the ”mercy” of Assad, the Russians, and the Turks? And then reduced the number of refugees allowed in to tbe US to the lowest ever? You probably didn’t care then, but it was a nightmare, and like the tragedy unfolding now in Afghanistan it was in the news I listen to. The ONLY remotely positive thing in this mess is that unlike Trump, Biden is actively trying to get people out. But regardless, this is a major fuck up on Biden’s part, and a defining moment for his presidency.

 

[struth]

Did you find it sad when ChiCommTrump turned his back on all those people in Syria who helped us fight ISIS, and left them to the ”mercy” of Assad, the Russians, and the Turks? And then reduced the number of refugees allowed in to tbe US to the lowest ever? You probably didn’t care then, but it was a nightmare, and like the tragedy unfolding now in Afghanistan it was in the news I listen to. The ONLY remotely positive thing in this mess is that unlike Trump, Biden is actively trying to get people out. But regardless, this is a major fuck up on Biden’s part, and a defining moment for his presidency.

You seemed to think it was, odd you don't now.

Also, during a pandemic it's best to keep people out, including refugees, at least until the pandemic stops.

Xiden simply doesn't care. Sad.

 

[Coyote]

You seemed to think it was, odd you don't now.

...think what was odd?

Also, during a pandemic it's best to keep people out, including refugees, at least until the pandemic stops.

There was no pandemic going on when we withdrew from Syria and it is no excuse for abandoning people who put their lives in danger helping us.

Xiden simply doesn't care. Sad.

Neither did ChiComTrump, or you since I didn't hear you comlain over Syria or when Trump signed an agreement to be out by May. Did you think it was a good idea then?

 

[struth]

...think what was odd?



There was no pandemic going on when we withdrew from Syria and it is no excuse for abandoning people who put their lives in danger helping us.



Neither did ChiComTrump, or you since I didn't hear you comlain over Syria or when Trump signed an agreement to be out by May. Did you think it was a good idea then?

nope withdraws aren’t the issue. Bring refugees in during the pandemic is.

We have taken plenty of refugees from syria and other places in. Even during the trump admin. Trump made arrangements to send them elsewere

there is a pandemic now, what’s xiden’s plan?

 

[Ben Thomson]

​

Was Biden personally in charge of the logistics involved in withdrawing?

 

[Doc7505]

Was Biden personally in charge of the logistics in involved in withdrawing?

Indeed it was those Pentagon Generals led by Milley less those purged by Obama.

MSN

 

[Ben Thomson]

'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal​

'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal

townhall.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By Spencer Brown
After nearly two decades of America's presence at Bagram Airfield, U.S. forces apparently turned off the lights and left under the cover of night, all without notifying the Afghan forces left behind. The Afghan commander "discovered the Americans’ departure more than two hours after they left," according to new reporting from the Associated Press based on conversations with members of Afghan security forces.
The Pentagon confirmed Friday that the last U.S. forces had left Bagram Airfield north of Kabul, Afghanistan, but days later we're getting a more complete picture of America's departure that marked a major milestone in President Biden's withdrawal plan.
In the immediate aftermath of American forces' departure, looters descended and "ransacked barrack after barrack and rummaged through giant storage tents" on the base that for years was the launching point for attacks on al-Qaida targets. Afghan forces were eventually able to clear the looters and re-secure the base after America's surprise withdrawal.
~Snip~
As Americans celebrated Independence Day, more than 1,000 members of the Afghan military fled across the border with Tajikistan in their latest retreat from the Taliban, according to Tajik reports from the country's border authority.
One Afghan soldier at Bagram told the AP that "in one night, they lost all the goodwill of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area."
Another told of how, "within 20 minutes of the U.S.’s silent departure on Friday, the electricity was shut down and the base was plunged into darkness... like a signal to the looters."
The Afghan commander who is now in charge of Bagram told the Associated Press that "we have to secure our country and once again build our country with our own hands" and asserted he's confident any future attacks would be repelled by Afghan forces.
~Snip~
Questions in the U.S. continue to swirl regarding Afghanistan's future along with the security of the American embassy in Kabul and what will be done to protect Afghan translators who assisted American forces while they await visas. President Biden refused to answer questions about his administration's withdrawal plan last week, citing Independence Day as the reason he wouldn't address the subject.


Comment:
Hmm...., with the current flag officers and the ass clowns on the JCOS maybe the Afghanis are better off without us. Sorry folks. It's not about winning any longer. Thanks to all that sacrificed their time and efforts, lives and limbs in the middle east debacle. Some folks do appreciate your efforts.
Yet somehow our fearless leader Joey Xi touts that America is back and people can depend on the US again after the bad orange man was sent packing. At least people knew where we/they stood with Trump. Our military sneaking away in the night is disgraceful. But indicative of the methods of Bia Dung and the PM/DSA Democrat Left that handle him.

Ya, as if they didn't see this day coming..Afghan conflict: Trump hails deal with Taliban to end 18-year war

 

[Ben Thomson]

I guess we did a lousy job over the last fours of getting an Afghan army trained and ready for this day.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Damn..why don't you right wing chicken hawks stop with the wailing. Out economy depends a great deal on the military-industrial complex. We need wars to keep it going. There is big money to be made in wars as you chicken hawks well know. Therefore you can be sure we will be involved in another one somewhere in a few years. You will see to it.

 

[struth]

Damn..why don't you right wing chicken hawks stop with the wailing. Out economy depends a great deal on the military-industrial complex. We need wars to keep it going. There is big money to be made in wars as you chicken hawks well know. Therefore you can be sure we will be involved in another one somewhere in a few years. You will see to it.

there is no doubt about it now. Thanks to Joey Xiden and the dems failure in Afghanistan there is little doubt terrorist will be training again in a matter of weeks and targeting us once again

 

[Ben Thomson]

there is no doubt about it now. Thanks to Joey Xiden and the dems failure in Afghanistan there is little doubt terrorist will be training again in a matter of weeks and targeting us once again

Where the hell have you been for the last thirty years or more..they have been training since the first Iraq war in '91..they never stopped.

 

[struth]

Where the hell have you been for the last thirty years or more..they have been training since the first Iraq war in '91..they never stopped.

such there have been terrorist…long before 91 too dumbass

but Bush ended their stronghold in Afghan, had them living in caves…trump ended obama’s jv team, in IsIS and now xiden undid all the hard work are solders. have done and gave them back Afghan. Good job

 

[Ben Thomson]

...think what was odd?



There was no pandemic going on when we withdrew from Syria and it is no excuse for abandoning people who put their lives in danger helping us.



Neither did ChiComTrump, or you since I didn't hear you comlain over Syria or when Trump signed an agreement to be out by May. Did you think it was a good idea then?

Funny isn't it how the wingers are bashing Biden for honoring the deal their hero Trump made with the Taliban.

 

[Ben Thomson]

such there have been terrorist…long before 91 too dumbass

but Bush ended their stronghold in Afghan, had them living in caves…trump ended obama’s jv team, in IsIS and now xiden undid all the hard work are solders. have done and gave them back Afghan. Good job

'but Bush ended their stronghold in Afghan, had them living in caves'…so why the hell didn't we leave then...dumbass

 

[itfitzme]

'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal​

'Lost All the Goodwill of 20 Years': Afghan Forces React to Biden's Bagram Withdrawal

townhall.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By Spencer Brown
After nearly two decades of America's presence at Bagram Airfield, U.S. forces apparently turned off the lights and left under the cover of night, all without notifying the Afghan forces left behind. The Afghan commander "discovered the Americans’ departure more than two hours after they left," according to new reporting from the Associated Press based on conversations with members of Afghan security forces.
The Pentagon confirmed Friday that the last U.S. forces had left Bagram Airfield north of Kabul, Afghanistan, but days later we're getting a more complete picture of America's departure that marked a major milestone in President Biden's withdrawal plan.
In the immediate aftermath of American forces' departure, looters descended and "ransacked barrack after barrack and rummaged through giant storage tents" on the base that for years was the launching point for attacks on al-Qaida targets. Afghan forces were eventually able to clear the looters and re-secure the base after America's surprise withdrawal.
~Snip~
As Americans celebrated Independence Day, more than 1,000 members of the Afghan military fled across the border with Tajikistan in their latest retreat from the Taliban, according to Tajik reports from the country's border authority.
One Afghan soldier at Bagram told the AP that "in one night, they lost all the goodwill of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area."
Another told of how, "within 20 minutes of the U.S.’s silent departure on Friday, the electricity was shut down and the base was plunged into darkness... like a signal to the looters."
The Afghan commander who is now in charge of Bagram told the Associated Press that "we have to secure our country and once again build our country with our own hands" and asserted he's confident any future attacks would be repelled by Afghan forces.
~Snip~
Questions in the U.S. continue to swirl regarding Afghanistan's future along with the security of the American embassy in Kabul and what will be done to protect Afghan translators who assisted American forces while they await visas. President Biden refused to answer questions about his administration's withdrawal plan last week, citing Independence Day as the reason he wouldn't address the subject.


Comment:
Hmm...., with the current flag officers and the ass clowns on the JCOS maybe the Afghanis are better off without us. Sorry folks. It's not about winning any longer. Thanks to all that sacrificed their time and efforts, lives and limbs in the middle east debacle. Some folks do appreciate your efforts.
Yet somehow our fearless leader Joey Xi touts that America is back and people can depend on the US again after the bad orange man was sent packing. At least people knew where we/they stood with Trump. Our military sneaking away in the night is disgraceful. But indicative of the methods of Bia Dung and the PM/DSA Democrat Left that handle him.

Lets see if I got this right

From a "base that had once seen as many as 100,000 U.S. troops." , everyone one snuck off quietly "shhhh, don't let the neighbors hear us." And nobody noticed.

Some new commander, a Gen. Mir Asadullah Kohistani, Bagram’s who apparently wasn't in the loop said, “We (heard) some rumor that the Americans had left Bagram ... and finally by seven o’clock in the morning, we understood that it was confirmed that they had already left Bagram,” So basically, no one told HIM.

Oh, wait, the looters noticed because "The sudden darkness was like a signal to the looters," Just these random dudes hanging around to loot. No one else around but prospective looters. Nope, no Afghan military. No reporters from hundreds of news agencies around the globe. Nope, no one but the "looters".

And after 20 years of training and support, the Afghanistan can't manage to defend their own county. And they are upset because they just didn't expect the U.S to every leave? What exactly has the Afghan military been doing for 20 years? How many drawdowns have been done in those 20 years?

And you are looking for someone to blame. Sounds to me like that's your thing, fault finding, looking for someone to blame, and not taking responsibility.

Right, Trump. Because he was all about personal responsibility. To quote him, “I don't take responsibility at all,” Trump said.

 

[Ben Thomson]

Lets see if I got this right

From a "base that had once seen as many as 100,000 U.S. troops." , everyone one snuck off quietly "shhhh, don't let the neighbors hear us." And nobody noticed.

Some new commander, a Gen. Mir Asadullah Kohistani, Bagram’s who apparently wasn't in the loop said, “We (heard) some rumor that the Americans had left Bagram ... and finally by seven o’clock in the morning, we understood that it was confirmed that they had already left Bagram,” So basically, no one told HIM.

Oh, wait, the looters noticed because "The sudden darkness was like a signal to the looters," Just these random dudes hanging around to loot. No one else around but prospective looters. Nope, no Afghan military. No reporters from hundreds of news agencies around the globe. Nope, no one but the "looters".

And after 20 years of training and support, the Afghanistan can't manage to defend their own county. And they are upset because they just didn't expect the U.S to every leave? What exactly has the Afghan military been doing for 20 years? How many drawdowns have been done in those 20 years?

And you are looking for someone to blame. Sounds to me like that's your thing, fault finding, looking for someone to blame, and not taking responsibility.

Right, Trump. Because he was all about personal responsibility. To quote him, “I don't take responsibility at all,” Trump said.

Trump releasing 5,000 battle hardened Taliban as part of the deal he made with the Taliban in early 2020 didn't help either

 

[struth]

'but Bush ended their stronghold in Afghan, had them living in caves'…so why the hell didn't we leave then...dumbass

ask obama…then ask xiden

 

[Ben Thomson]

ask obama…then ask xiden

Wasn't there somebody between Obama and Biden??