Looks Like the Trump Admin is Bringing Dark Secrets to The Light

[westwall]

Then why threaten his famil

To also get him to be a cooperating witness, obviously. Duh. To which he agreed. If the son committed no crime, then nothing to worry about anyway. The conservative mantra.

It's unethical to threaten family members you ******* loon. That is what bolsheviks...like you, do. Not THIS country.

We aren't a ******* banana Republic yet you prick.

 

[candycorn]

They needed information about the calls, beyond the transcripts of the calls?

Probably about other people. Like, "Individual 1". And also about the Russian operations, which, as a lot of people seem to forget, was also their focus.

So getting a date wrong, or a detail wrong, weeks after the call is a big deal?

Who told you that? No, perjury is not a mistake. It's a willful lie. Flynn admitted the willful lie, under oath, in court.

I know, but after shooting themselves in the head, what is the DOJ going to do now?

Probably jack shit, the same as the last 1000 times this same nothingburger attempt was made.

After seeing the hand written notes from the FBI......it was setting him up...pure and simple.
They already had his statement from earlier. The only thing Flynn is guilty of is being naive
for not having a lawyer with him.

3 star generals are "naive"?

Obviously, yes.....when it came to this.

The excuse factory is running two shifts now I see.

A lawyer would have made sure that Flynn would have been afforded the proper protocol
from the FBI before the second interrogation. But that doesn't make any difference to you, corn.

A 10 year old would not admit to committing a crime they didn't commit. Much less a 3 star general.
Such is common sense which you don't seem to have.

What crime did Flynn commit, Candy?

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI.

a plea deal to protect his family from the bolshevick tactics the chicom allies in the democratic party were threatening to use .

It was the blob's DOJ.

I see "chicom" there...I guess you just made another nickle.

No, the DOJs upper level have been corrupt for a long time. They are loyal to the political class. Not to we the People.

lol

The blob is responsible for staffing in the DOJ. Blaming imaginary characters is just another excuse you're making for his incompetence.

Only some. The vast majority are locked in, and untouchable.

Your cartoonish take on the government is hilarious.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Once again, what's done in the dark is coming to the light.
The FBI is being exposed as a corrupt entity of the government at the highest level.

Handwritten notes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that had been inappropriately withheld from Flynn’s defense team for years show that a key goal of the agents investigating Flynn was “to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”
In the handwritten FBI notes, the note-taker, whose identity was not made clear in the document production, wrote that an alternate goal is to “get [Flynn] to admit breaking the Logan Act,” a reference to a 1799 law restricting communications between private citizens and foreign governments.
The FBI notes also show that the author of the document had misgivings about the FBI’s conduct in interviewing Flynn.

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Explosive New Flynn Documents Show FBI Goal Was To 'Get Him Fired'

Newly disclosed handwritten documents in the Michael Flynn case show that the stated goal of the FBI in interviewing Flynn was to 'get him fired.'

thefederalist.com

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit” but “I thought about it last night and I believe we should rethink this,” the FBI official wrote. “What is our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”

'Truth/Admission or to get him to lie'?: Notes show FBI discussed possible Michael Flynn prosecution before interview

Top FBI officials discussed the possibility of prosecuting retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn for lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russians as

www.washingtonexaminer.com

One of Obama's long list of legacies, no doubt.
I'll be looking for this on CNN.

Wray has proven to be as useless as tits on a bull.....If I were Trump I would ask for his resignation tomorrow and put Giuliani in there....clean the agency from the top down....

What does Wray have to do with this?

He runs the agency that has not been forthcoming....The FBI's reputation is reeling from this and Wray hasn't done one thing to weed out the facts of what took place during the presidential transition....in fact his public statements show he is not interested in what happened...

That is not his job, as it is being investigated by the DOJ.

Not his job?...are you kidding?.....so who at the FBI is calling the shots?...just who is it at the FBI then that has not been cooperating with the DOJ?...if you know you should call Wray and tell him....The DOJ investigation would not be necessary if Wray was not a part of the cover up......nice try squid....

I think you will find that the investigation began BEFORE he became FBI Director.

Not the Durham investigation....if we had a justice first FBI chief and not a swamper we wouldn't need Durham.....

Flynn pleaded guilty 1 December 2017 less than 3 months after Wray took office. How would be have been involved in the investigation if he was not even there?

Wray has access to all pertinent information and has not brought any of it into the light....he is fine with hiding it from the American people....so now we have to use government sources to dig it out....a good question is why are you defending him?....

I certainly am not.

I was talking to Admiral Rockwell....

Crossfire Hurricane was investigated BEFORE Wray took over.

And wray has done nothing to help expose the fbi criminal actions. He has obfuscated at every turn.

How do you know that? Perhaps he had no knowledge with which to offer? Remember, he was not with the FBI.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is no surprise at all. But outrageous. Glad they were able to find these notes-
Explosive new internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show that top bureau officials discussed their motivations for interviewing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn in the White House in January 2017 -- and openly questioned if their "goal" was "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired."

The handwritten notes -- written by the FBI's former head of counterintelligence Bill Priestap after a meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Fox News is told -- further suggested that agents planned in the alternative to get Flynn "to admit to breaking the Logan Act."

The Logan Act is an obscure statute that has never been used in a criminal prosecution; enacted in 1799, it was intended to prevent individuals from falsely claiming to represent the United States abroad in an era before telephones.

"What is our goal?" one of the notes read. "Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?"

"If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give facts to DOJ + have them decide," another note read. Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley called the document's implications "chilling."

The memo appears to weigh the pros and cons of pursuing those different paths, while indicating that the White House was monitoring the situation: "If we’re seen as playing games, WH will be furious."

READ THE UNSEALED FBI EMAILS, HANDWRITTEN DOCUMENTS

The bombshell materials strongly suggested the agents weren't truly concerned about Flynn's intercepted contacts with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, except as a pretext. Former President Obama personally had warned the Trump administration against hiring Flynn, and made clear he was "not a fan," according to multiple officials. Obama fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014.

FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show

Explosive new internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show that top bureau officials discussed their motivations for interviewing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn in the White House in January 2017 -- and openly questioned if their "goal" was "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute...

www.foxnews.com

They all need to hang for sedition

You cannot hang someone for sedition. The maximum penalty is 20 years.

You're not allowed to spy on a US citizen running for President either

The FBI can't investigate someone running for President?

Not with a ******* fake FISA warrant. You keep thinking this is just about Trump - and its not! The ******* FBI acted like Soviet secret police, they spied on Trump, they'll spy on EVERYONE!

You think you get a pass for being a Quisling suck up? You don’t!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here is what we have from the note taker and part of the team working on the case....it seems?

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

so the note taker here said that he agreed yesterday when the group on the case strategized, that they should not show Flynn.... something that was redacted, (so we do not know what he was talking about there), if he did not admit, (to something else we don't know as well because it is not spelled out)

Then he went on to say, that he thought about doing it the way that was discussed, (and we don't know what exactly that means...what exactly was the way that was discussed?)

And that he believed that this approach or method that they were going to use, should be rethought....in his opinion....

then he says:


“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Then he goes on to say that they regularly do show subjects evidence that they have on them, with the goal to get subjects to admit to wrong doing.... (so this is a common tactic of the FBI, in general, it seems?)

But the note taker does not see how getting someone to admit their wrong doing, is going "easy" on this particular subject....

(So the note taker is saying that THEIR GOAL was to GO EASY on Flynn, and doing it the way they discussed the day before in their strategizing meeting.....whatever that may have been, was NOT going easy on him, as their goal was....in his opinion)

=======================

Without the redacted part, and without the rest of this conversation's notes to give an accurate context, nothing at all can be concluded as some sort of nefarious action, imo. That is all far out conjecture!!!

So you'd be OK with the FBI acting like that against you or a member of your family??

 

[candycorn]

This is no surprise at all. But outrageous. Glad they were able to find these notes-
Explosive new internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show that top bureau officials discussed their motivations for interviewing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn in the White House in January 2017 -- and openly questioned if their "goal" was "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired."

The handwritten notes -- written by the FBI's former head of counterintelligence Bill Priestap after a meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Fox News is told -- further suggested that agents planned in the alternative to get Flynn "to admit to breaking the Logan Act."

The Logan Act is an obscure statute that has never been used in a criminal prosecution; enacted in 1799, it was intended to prevent individuals from falsely claiming to represent the United States abroad in an era before telephones.

"What is our goal?" one of the notes read. "Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?"

"If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give facts to DOJ + have them decide," another note read. Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley called the document's implications "chilling."

The memo appears to weigh the pros and cons of pursuing those different paths, while indicating that the White House was monitoring the situation: "If we’re seen as playing games, WH will be furious."

READ THE UNSEALED FBI EMAILS, HANDWRITTEN DOCUMENTS

The bombshell materials strongly suggested the agents weren't truly concerned about Flynn's intercepted contacts with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, except as a pretext. Former President Obama personally had warned the Trump administration against hiring Flynn, and made clear he was "not a fan," according to multiple officials. Obama fired Flynn as head of the Defense Intelligence Agency in 2014.

FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show

Explosive new internal FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show that top bureau officials discussed their motivations for interviewing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn in the White House in January 2017 -- and openly questioned if their "goal" was "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute...

www.foxnews.com

They all need to hang for sedition

You cannot hang someone for sedition. The maximum penalty is 20 years.

You're not allowed to spy on a US citizen running for President either

The FBI can't investigate someone running for President?

Not with a ******* fake FISA warrant. You keep thinking this is just about Trump - and its not! The ******* FBI acted like Soviet secret police, they spied on Trump, they'll spy on EVERYONE!

You think you get a pass for being a Quisling suck up? You don’t!!

So you have a problem with them investigating Biden then, right?

 

[Care4all]

Here is what we have from the note taker and part of the team working on the case....it seems?

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

so the note taker here said that he agreed yesterday when the group on the case strategized, that they should not show Flynn.... something that was redacted, (so we do not know what he was talking about there), if he did not admit, (to something else we don't know as well because it is not spelled out)

Then he went on to say, that he thought about doing it the way that was discussed, (and we don't know what exactly that means...what exactly was the way that was discussed?)

And that he believed that this approach or method that they were going to use, should be rethought....in his opinion....

then he says:


“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Then he goes on to say that they regularly do show subjects evidence that they have on them, with the goal to get subjects to admit to wrong doing.... (so this is a common tactic of the FBI, in general, it seems?)

But the note taker does not see how getting someone to admit their wrong doing, is going "easy" on the subject....

(So the note taker is saying that THEIR GOAL was to GO EASY on Flynn, and doing it the way they discussed.....whatever that may have been, was NOT going easy on him, as their goal was....)

=======================

Without the redacted part, and without the rest of this conversation's notes to give an accurate context, nothing at all can be concluded as some sort of nefarious action, imo. That is all far out conjecture!!!

Only if you are intellectually dishonest.

I think it is being intellectually dishonest to presume what right winger sites are promoting as fact, when it is not fact, simply some twisted conjecture, to make it in to some preconceived right wing conspiracy...

when the actually text of the note taker that we can see in the quotes I posted from the op, actually says, no such thing.....

 

[Care4all]

Here is what we have from the note taker and part of the team working on the case....it seems?

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

so the note taker here said that he agreed yesterday when the group on the case strategized, that they should not show Flynn.... something that was redacted, (so we do not know what he was talking about there), if he did not admit, (to something else we don't know as well because it is not spelled out)

Then he went on to say, that he thought about doing it the way that was discussed, (and we don't know what exactly that means...what exactly was the way that was discussed?)

And that he believed that this approach or method that they were going to use, should be rethought....in his opinion....

then he says:


“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Then he goes on to say that they regularly do show subjects evidence that they have on them, with the goal to get subjects to admit to wrong doing.... (so this is a common tactic of the FBI, in general, it seems?)

But the note taker does not see how getting someone to admit their wrong doing, is going "easy" on this particular subject....

(So the note taker is saying that THEIR GOAL was to GO EASY on Flynn, and doing it the way they discussed the day before in their strategizing meeting.....whatever that may have been, was NOT going easy on him, as their goal was....in his opinion)

=======================

Without the redacted part, and without the rest of this conversation's notes to give an accurate context, nothing at all can be concluded as some sort of nefarious action, imo. That is all far out conjecture!!!

So you'd be OK with the FBI acting like that against you or a member of your family??

acting like what? the note taker is asking questions... there are question marks.

Wouldn't doing it the way they originally discussed, not be ''going easy on Flynn''?


(so they obviously discussed previously, that they were going to try to go ''easy'' on Flynn)



conveniently the whole conversation is not posted....they only posted what they thought they could twist and use..... enough to make you all, believe their twist....

 

[westwall]

Here is what we have from the note taker and part of the team working on the case....it seems?

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

so the note taker here said that he agreed yesterday when the group on the case strategized, that they should not show Flynn.... something that was redacted, (so we do not know what he was talking about there), if he did not admit, (to something else we don't know as well because it is not spelled out)

Then he went on to say, that he thought about doing it the way that was discussed, (and we don't know what exactly that means...what exactly was the way that was discussed?)

And that he believed that this approach or method that they were going to use, should be rethought....in his opinion....

then he says:


“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Then he goes on to say that they regularly do show subjects evidence that they have on them, with the goal to get subjects to admit to wrong doing.... (so this is a common tactic of the FBI, in general, it seems?)

But the note taker does not see how getting someone to admit their wrong doing, is going "easy" on the subject....

(So the note taker is saying that THEIR GOAL was to GO EASY on Flynn, and doing it the way they discussed.....whatever that may have been, was NOT going easy on him, as their goal was....)

=======================

Without the redacted part, and without the rest of this conversation's notes to give an accurate context, nothing at all can be concluded as some sort of nefarious action, imo. That is all far out conjecture!!!

Only if you are intellectually dishonest.

I think it is being intellectually dishonest to presume what right winger sites are promoting as fact, when it is not fact, simply some twisted conjecture, to make it in to some preconceived right wing conspiracy...

when the actually text of the note taker that we can see in the quotes I posted from the op, actually says, no such thing.....

Suuuuure. Face it, the fbi broke the law in their persecution of flynn.

We are going to see much worse before this is over.

 

[westwall]

Once again, what's done in the dark is coming to the light.
The FBI is being exposed as a corrupt entity of the government at the highest level.

Handwritten notes from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) that had been inappropriately withheld from Flynn’s defense team for years show that a key goal of the agents investigating Flynn was “to get him to lie so we can prosecute him or get him fired.”
In the handwritten FBI notes, the note-taker, whose identity was not made clear in the document production, wrote that an alternate goal is to “get [Flynn] to admit breaking the Logan Act,” a reference to a 1799 law restricting communications between private citizens and foreign governments.
The FBI notes also show that the author of the document had misgivings about the FBI’s conduct in interviewing Flynn.

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit,” the FBI author wrote. “I thought [about] it last night, [and] I believe we should rethink this.”

“We regularly show subjects evidence, with the goal of getting them to admit wrongdoing,” the notes said. “I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him.”

Explosive New Flynn Documents Show FBI Goal Was To 'Get Him Fired'

Newly disclosed handwritten documents in the Michael Flynn case show that the stated goal of the FBI in interviewing Flynn was to 'get him fired.'

thefederalist.com

“I agreed yesterday that we shouldn’t show Flynn [REDACTED] if he didn’t admit” but “I thought about it last night and I believe we should rethink this,” the FBI official wrote. “What is our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?”

'Truth/Admission or to get him to lie'?: Notes show FBI discussed possible Michael Flynn prosecution before interview

Top FBI officials discussed the possibility of prosecuting retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn for lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russians as

www.washingtonexaminer.com

One of Obama's long list of legacies, no doubt.
I'll be looking for this on CNN.

Wray has proven to be as useless as tits on a bull.....If I were Trump I would ask for his resignation tomorrow and put Giuliani in there....clean the agency from the top down....

What does Wray have to do with this?

He runs the agency that has not been forthcoming....The FBI's reputation is reeling from this and Wray hasn't done one thing to weed out the facts of what took place during the presidential transition....in fact his public statements show he is not interested in what happened...

That is not his job, as it is being investigated by the DOJ.

Not his job?...are you kidding?.....so who at the FBI is calling the shots?...just who is it at the FBI then that has not been cooperating with the DOJ?...if you know you should call Wray and tell him....The DOJ investigation would not be necessary if Wray was not a part of the cover up......nice try squid....

I think you will find that the investigation began BEFORE he became FBI Director.

Not the Durham investigation....if we had a justice first FBI chief and not a swamper we wouldn't need Durham.....

Flynn pleaded guilty 1 December 2017 less than 3 months after Wray took office. How would be have been involved in the investigation if he was not even there?

Wray has access to all pertinent information and has not brought any of it into the light....he is fine with hiding it from the American people....so now we have to use government sources to dig it out....a good question is why are you defending him?....

I certainly am not.

I was talking to Admiral Rockwell....

Crossfire Hurricane was investigated BEFORE Wray took over.

And wray has done nothing to help expose the fbi criminal actions. He has obfuscated at every turn.

How do you know that? Perhaps he had no knowledge with which to offer? Remember, he was not with the FBI.

It doesn't matter. He controls what gets released, and what doesn't. He has been COMPELLED to turn this over.

He knew it was there, and he fought like a bastard to keep it buried.

He's as dirty as any of them

 

[Lovebears65]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

 

[Snouter]

Meanwhile Barry Hussaine Obama the Kenyan who attacked our democracy and wanted to turn the USA into a typical Black dominated shithole country is playing golf, while Micheal Obama tells people to stay inside.

 

[Penelope]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too .https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michael-flynn-fbi-handwritten-notes-get-him-lie-fired a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Why fox news is a sham. Flynn wanted to lock hillary up, and without a jury or judge.

 

[wamose]

This is the Democrats vision for all aspects of our government. They don't care about the constitution, freedom or the American worker.

 

[Penelope]

This is the Democrats vision for all aspects of our government. They don't care about the constitution, freedom or the American worker.

Yes all Democrats do, its the republicans that don't.

 

[wamose]

This is the Democrats vision for all aspects of our government. They don't care about the constitution, freedom or the American worker.

Yes all Democrats do, its the republicans that don't.

That would be the perfect second grade reply except you forgot to say nah nah nah nah nah.

 

[forkup]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Wait, you think a criminal has the right to lie to federal agents? Guess what in all these kinds of interviews, be it conducted by a normal cop, FBI agent, or for that matter prosecutor one of the main tactics is to catch inconsistencies. This creates pathways for them to get to the truth. It's not nefarious. The only thing you have to do is answer truthfully and then it doesn't work.

 

[JoeB131]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

Flynn is only 33 years old?

The problem was, Flynn did lie about his connections to foreign powers. He plead guilty not only because he was so guilty, but so was his kid.

Also, he was kind of an Islamophobic asshole who probably hurt our efforts with all the crazy talk.

 

[candycorn]

Michael Flynn should not have been prosecuted.. Obama is behind it too . FBI discussed interviewing Michael Flynn 'to get him to lie' and 'get him fired,' handwritten notes show a 33 yr old veteran had less rights then a criminal.

The blob's DOJ prosecuted Flynn. You're wrong.

 

[Snouter]

Wowsa, leftards still don't comprehend reality. We are not debating facts at this point. Everyone knew the FBI setup Flynn years ago. A crime so blatantly obvious it should have shut down the FBI until an independent agency can ascertain what happened. Yet right now, leftard idiots insist on defending the most dangerous corruption of government in the history of the USA, pre-lockdown...

Leftards say, "He was a friend of the orange blob who disliked Muslim terrorists and therefore bad."