Longmont weather: Lowest temperature ever recorded in May

[ScienceRocks]

Add in more precip being as Antarctica is a very dry place=explains why we're seeing higher extents of sea ice.

temperature is not a factor in ice formation, is that what you are now claiming?

Lol,

You need a temperature below freezing. Temperature is a factor in how much moisture the air can hold.

 

[Redfish]

even if all of the "climate change" that you warmers are claiming was 100% true---------there is absolutely no proof that man has ever had anything to do with it, could stop it, or reverse it.

the climate of the planet is controlled by the sun, the earth's tilt on its axis, and tiny wobbles of the tilt.

once every few million years an asteroid hits the planet and fills the atmosphere with dirt and the climate changes until the dirt settles years later.

Man has never had any thing to do with it and never will.

 

[Redfish]

Add in more precip being as Antarctica is a very dry place=explains why we're seeing higher extents of sea ice.

temperature is not a factor in ice formation, is that what you are now claiming?

Lol,

You need a temperature below freezing. Temperature is a factor in how much moisture the air can hold.

really? damn, you mean that water turns to ice when the temp reaches 32 F? how about sea water? how about water in motion? how about hours of sunlight vs darkness?

but we get it, that oil fracking in the Dakotas is screwing up the antarctic ice----poor penquins.

you must be on drugs.

lots of variables that need to be factored in.

 

[ScienceRocks]

temperature is not a factor in ice formation, is that what you are now claiming?

Lol,

You need a temperature below freezing. Temperature is a factor in how much moisture the air can hold.

really? damn, you mean that water turns to ice when the temp reaches 32 F? how about sea water? how about water in motion? how about hours of sunlight vs darkness?

but we get it, that oil fracking in the Dakotas is screwing up the antarctic ice----poor penquins.

you must be on drugs.

lots of variables that need to be factored in.

Idiot,

The issue is more complex then you're capable of understanding as both air above and water below effects the ice. Warm the water or air slightly near the sea ice=ice melting; when the temperature goes above 32f. When it goes below that the ice refreezes...lol.

Add in slightly higher temperatures=more ability to hold moisture->more snow! lol lol lol First year ice also melts much faster as it doesn't reflect as much solar energy away so it ends up taking in more energy.

Secondly, how do you know that co2 doesn't have a effect?

 

[Redfish]

Lol,

You need a temperature below freezing. Temperature is a factor in how much moisture the air can hold.

really? damn, you mean that water turns to ice when the temp reaches 32 F? how about sea water? how about water in motion? how about hours of sunlight vs darkness?

but we get it, that oil fracking in the Dakotas is screwing up the antarctic ice----poor penquins.

you must be on drugs.

lots of variables that need to be factored in.

Idiot,

The issue is more complex then you're capable of understanding as both air above and water below effects the ice. Warm the water or air slightly near the sea ice=ice melting; when the temperature goes above 32f. When it goes below that the ice refreezes...lol.

Add in slightly higher temperatures=more ability to hold moisture->more snow! lol lol lol First year ice also melts much faster as it doesn't reflect as much solar energy away so it ends up taking in more energy.

Secondly, how do you know that co2 doesn't have a effect?

I understand the complexity and the variables involved. thats why I challenged your generalization.

CO2 is .039% of the atmosphere---less than 1/2 of one %.

 

[ScienceRocks]

even if all of the "climate change" that you warmers are claiming was 100% true---------there is absolutely no proof that man has ever had anything to do with it, could stop it, or reverse it.

the climate of the planet is controlled by the sun, the earth's tilt on its axis, and tiny wobbles of the tilt.

once every few million years an asteroid hits the planet and fills the atmosphere with dirt and the climate changes until the dirt settles years later.

Man has never had any thing to do with it and never will.

Most of what you say is true. Did you know if it wasn't for the green house effect that this planet would be a cube of ice? Water vapor only stays in the atmosphere for a very short time(week)-- so it would freeze out without co2, etc helping to make damn sure that doesn't happen.

Read some science.

 

[Redfish]

even if all of the "climate change" that you warmers are claiming was 100% true---------there is absolutely no proof that man has ever had anything to do with it, could stop it, or reverse it.

the climate of the planet is controlled by the sun, the earth's tilt on its axis, and tiny wobbles of the tilt.

once every few million years an asteroid hits the planet and fills the atmosphere with dirt and the climate changes until the dirt settles years later.

Man has never had any thing to do with it and never will.

Most of what you say is true. Did you know if it wasn't for the green house effect that this planet would be a cube of ice? Water vapor only stays in the atmosphere for a very short time(week)-- so it would freeze out without co2, etc helping to make damn sure that doesn't happen.

Read some science.

wrong again, the planet would freeze without water vapor, not CO2. I think you need a chem 101 class.

.039% and you are claiming that tiny amount of gas is both destroying and saving the planet?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Global-warming potential - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Water Vapor Feedback and Global Warming, Held & Soden, Annual Review Energy Environment (2000)

In fact, it’s so well-known that most times in papers it isn’t repeated. No one involved in atmospheric physics is confused about the subject.

Why the focus on CO2 in that case?


Water vapor arguably lies at the heart of all key terrestrial atmospheric processes. Humidity is essential for the development of disturbed weather, influences (directly and indirectly through cloud formation) the planetary radiative balance, and influences surface fluxes and soil moisture. Water vapor is the only radiatively important atmospheric constituent that is sufficiently short‐lived and abundant in the atmosphere so as to be essentially under purely natural control..

Tropospheric Water Vapor, Convection & Climate, Sherwood, Roca, Weckwerth & Andronova, Review of Geophysics (2010)

Emphasis added.

The point is that water vapor responds to climate – and therefore influences climate as a feedback. The concern is that humans adding CO2 to the atmosphere will cause a change to the climate and water vapor will have a feedback effect (see, for example, Clouds and Water Vapor – Part One and subsequent articles).

It is quite difficult for humans to add water vapor to the atmosphere. The oceans are a vast source of water, and just above the surface of the ocean the atmosphere is saturated
Water Vapor vs CO2 as a ?Greenhouse? Gas | The Science of Doom

So add more co2 into the atmosphere=more evaporation=more warming. lol But without co2 the water would freeze out of the atmosphere within a short period geologically speaking.

 

[ScienceRocks]

even if all of the "climate change" that you warmers are claiming was 100% true---------there is absolutely no proof that man has ever had anything to do with it, could stop it, or reverse it.

the climate of the planet is controlled by the sun, the earth's tilt on its axis, and tiny wobbles of the tilt.

once every few million years an asteroid hits the planet and fills the atmosphere with dirt and the climate changes until the dirt settles years later.

Man has never had any thing to do with it and never will.

Most of what you say is true. Did you know if it wasn't for the green house effect that this planet would be a cube of ice? Water vapor only stays in the atmosphere for a very short time(week)-- so it would freeze out without co2, etc helping to make damn sure that doesn't happen.

Read some science.

wrong again, the planet would freeze without water vapor, not CO2. I think you need a chem 101 class.

.039% and you are claiming that tiny amount of gas is both destroying and saving the planet?

I have a few 200 level ones under me. asshole. haha.

Water wouldn't stay within the atmosphere very long without the co2 factor being there. At least there won't be a lot less as it turned to ice on the surface.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The greenhouse effect is a naturally occurring process that aids in heating the Earth's surface and atmosphere. It results from the fact that certain atmospheric gases, such as carbon dioxide, water vapor, and methane, are able to change the energy balance of the planet by absorbing longwave radiation emitted from the Earth's surface. Without the greenhouse effect life on this planet would probably not exist as the average temperature of the Earth would be a chilly -18° Celsius, rather than the present 15° Celsius.
Greenhouse effect

 

[ScienceRocks]

I laugh at you people for doubting the green house effect. LOL

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

and who can't wait till mid-sept when we would of either gone thru "An Average Hurricane Season" or "An Above Average Hurricane Season". Yup. either scenario, it was caused by Global Warming. and if an Asteroid hits the moon knocking it 100 miles further away into space, hmm., global warming? that should prove to be an interesting day to go to the beach.

 

[Freewill]

Tornado spike in 2011 attributed to climate change. So what to make of this year’s tornado drought?

Tornado spike in 2011 attributed to climate change. So what to make of this year?s tornado drought? | SciGuy | a Chron.com blog

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

well it is kinda odd that here we are in May and no tornadoes yet. right? I haven't heard about any tornadoes hitting Texas/Oklahoma/surrounding area just yet,isnt May the start of Tornadoe season? and is it still cooler than usual in the lower east?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Tornado spike in 2011 attributed to climate change. So what to make of this year’s tornado drought?

Tornado spike in 2011 attributed to climate change. So what to make of this year?s tornado drought? | SciGuy | a Chron.com blog

Different position of the jet stream. This year temperatures in the east and plains are way below normal with below normal dewpoints.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

god, what are the chances of another Joplin this summer? im sure PMS-NBC will be on the case.

 

[ScienceRocks]

god, what are the chances of another Joplin this summer? im sure PMS-NBC will be on the case.

What are the chances we only get a few dozen weak twisters?

 

[westwall]

Most of what you say is true. Did you know if it wasn't for the green house effect that this planet would be a cube of ice? Water vapor only stays in the atmosphere for a very short time(week)-- so it would freeze out without co2, etc helping to make damn sure that doesn't happen.

Read some science.

wrong again, the planet would freeze without water vapor, not CO2. I think you need a chem 101 class.

.039% and you are claiming that tiny amount of gas is both destroying and saving the planet?

I have a few 200 level ones under me. asshole. haha.

Water wouldn't stay within the atmosphere very long without the co2 factor being there. At least there won't be a lot less as it turned to ice on the surface.

Absolutely wrong Matthew. Water vapor has been THE dominant GHG on this planet for billions of years. CO2 is merely a trace gas within the atmosphere and as shown by the Vostock ice core data has ZERO effect on climate.

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

god, what are the chances of another Joplin this summer? im sure PMS-NBC will be on the case.

What are the chances we only get a few dozen weak twisters?

we can already see it now, three months into Tornado season and no tornadoes,,,looks like global warming!
or,,,three months into tornado season, so far 46 tornadoes, yup, must be Global warming!

 

[buckeye45_73]

god, what are the chances of another Joplin this summer? im sure PMS-NBC will be on the case.

What are the chances we only get a few dozen weak twisters?

we can already see it now, three months into Tornado season and no tornadoes,,,looks like global warming!
or,,,three months into tornado season, so far 46 tornadoes, yup, must be Global warming!

yep liberals have it both ways....they're not know for being stand up people....they call you names and wont address the questions.....d