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A small limited government is the key to maximum liberty, opportunity, prosperity.
The reason big business and government seem so inextricably intertwined is that they largely are. Big business can legally be immune to many, sometimes most taxes by off shoring their profitable entities and using less profitable ones still in the USA as tax write offs. Small businesses do not have that capability and therefore it weakens a lot of competition to big business. Also big corporations can handle government mandates, rules, regulations with a lot less pain than can their smaller competitors. So the more intrusive the government is into commercial enterprise, the less competition and more profits big business has.Which is theoretically true. However, in practice people use political power to gain economic power. And economic power to gain political power.
You can't tell the different between big business and government anymore.
Big business uses the government to raise the barriers of entry into the market and often times....to protect itself.
Also, you need to be clear on which government. Federal, state, county or municiple.
What you say is true. Down to the "logic" piece.The reason big business and government seem so inextricably intertwined is that they largely are. Big business can legally be immune to many, sometimes most taxes by off shoring their profitable entities and using less profitable ones still in the USA as tax write offs. Small businesses do not have that capability and therefore it weakens a lot of competition to big business. Also big corporations can handle government mandates, rules, regulations with a lot less pain than can their smaller competitors. So the more intrusive the government is into commercial enterprise, the less competition and more profits big business has.
This is why most big business prefers Democrats in the majority in government and their contributions largely reflect that.
Logic: The less government regulation, mandates and other interference, the more all commerce and industry can prosper the people in all demographics/economic groups.
The Left: Prefers more regulation, mandates, and government control because that benefits them and those they favor and weakens any opposition. Logic be damned as they assure the people that they are the government and they are here to help.
When they caved on the budget that they promised not to cave on, just a day or two before Clinton was going to give in.For heaven's sake, that indeed was a tumultuous year in Congress and even Gingrich admitted some of his comments during all that were one of his most avoidable mistakes, but what happened to turn you against the GOP entirely?
The Democrat party no longer has a platform.A platform is not a manifesto but a guideline for where the general mindset of the party is. The Founders never intended for any political party to have dictatorial power but expected, just as they had to do, that there will be give and take, concessions and compromise to arrive at the best policy possible to promote the general welfare.
Nobody can read the intentions of the right/Patriots/GOP/conservative independents/libertarians (litle "Land not appreciate the logic unless they are leftists who reject the logic.
A vote for anything other than the best intentions, whether or not they are successful in accomplishing them, has to be logically preferred to the nightmare we have endured for the last four years.
Logic - children should be protected from harm and exploitation due to their vulnerability.LOGIC vs AMERICAN LEFTISM
Everything written into the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the founding documents, debates, expressed thoughts, concepts, ideas, proposals, and adopted policy was based on logic and reason. The intention was a country of, for and by the people based on liberty with government having as little authority and influence as possible and still have a cohesive and effective country and that would be a guiding light to other countries to become the same.
Logic toward that end was what I believe the Founders would have endorsed and promoted as policy, culture, law, customs. Bottom line their logic was the best America was a strong, secure America with liberty, choices, options, opportunity, prosperity and ability to reach for dreams for all as well be a positive influence in the world.
American Leftism is increasingly antithetical to everything logical that allows for the America the Founders envisioned. It pushes for a government controlled by them to increase their power, authority, influence, and demand what policy, culture, law, customs will be acceptable. And many seem to think a one world government is the ideal
Logic: A small limited government is the key to maximum liberty, opportunity, prosperity.
Leftism: The people are incapable of governing themselves and need a strong government to ensure they do things the way they are supposed to do them.
Logic A. The best policy is that which allows and encourages the people to be able to better provide for themselves.
Leftism: Those who believe A are greedy, selfish, hate the poor.
Logic: In 1948 Israel was established by the U.N., on a TINY piece of land Jews have occupied for thousands of years and consider The Holy Land, as a homeland for Jews cruelly displaced by WWII and/or persecuted in other places. That became international law.
Leftism: The heirs of the Palestinians have every right to return even though they left so the Arabs could kill all the Jews but the Jews have no right to return to their historical homeland.
Logic: The Supreme Court may rule rightly or wrongly but they are an important concept in separation of powers essential for the Constitution to work effectively.
Leftism: The Supreme Court should have unchallenged ability to make law the leftists want but should be dissolved or packed with leftists and/or disciplined by the President or Congress if it rules in a way the leftists don’t want.
Logic: Biologically/scientifically there are two genders that are sufficiently different that certain customs and policies are proper and necessary for the common good. That people want to be a different gender than they were born does not change that biological fact.
Leftism: People should be able to choose whatever gender they want to be and it should be criminal not to recognize, support, approve, fully integrate and accommodate and use the proper pronouns for whatever they choose to be.
Logic: For a government to be of, for and by the people, the people must be confident that the electoral process and results are honest and secure.
Leftism: No matter how many people mistrust the process and results, it is more important that as many (leftist) people vote as possible and if that results in cheating/illegalities, oh well.
Logic: A free people can live, work, play, think, speak, believe, worship, aspire in peace so long as they do not infringe on anybody else’s unalienable rights. The Founders intended the Constitution to promote that concept for all.
Leftism: The government should have full authority to dictate how people must live, work, think, speak, believe, worship and what choices, options, and opportunities will be available to them.
There are many many more of these examples and it is the OP’s intention that others can be added.
Conservatives on the Right are for limited government and rights of the people
LOGIC vs AMERICAN LEFTISM
Everything written into the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the founding documents, debates, expressed thoughts, concepts, ideas, proposals, and adopted policy was based on logic and reason. The intention was a country of, for and by the people based on liberty with government having as little authority and influence as possible and still have a cohesive and effective country and that would be a guiding light to other countries to become the same.
Logic toward that end was what I believe the Founders would have endorsed and promoted as policy, culture, law, customs. Bottom line their logic was the best America was a strong, secure America with liberty, choices, options, opportunity, prosperity and ability to reach for dreams for all as well be a positive influence in the world.
American Leftism is increasingly antithetical to everything logical that allows for the America the Founders envisioned. It pushes for a government controlled by them to increase their power, authority, influence, and demand what policy, culture, law, customs will be acceptable. And many seem to think a one world government is the ideal
Logic: A small limited government is the key to maximum liberty, opportunity, prosperity.
Leftism: The people are incapable of governing themselves and need a strong government to ensure they do things the way they are supposed to do them.
Logic A. The best policy is that which allows and encourages the people to be able to better provide for themselves.
Leftism: Those who believe A are greedy, selfish, hate the poor.
Logic: In 1948 Israel was established by the U.N., on a TINY piece of land Jews have occupied for thousands of years and consider The Holy Land, as a homeland for Jews cruelly displaced by WWII and/or persecuted in other places. That became international law.
Leftism: The heirs of the Palestinians have every right to return even though they left so the Arabs could kill all the Jews but the Jews have no right to return to their historical homeland.
Logic: The Supreme Court may rule rightly or wrongly but they are an important concept in separation of powers essential for the Constitution to work effectively.
Leftism: The Supreme Court should have unchallenged ability to make law the leftists want but should be dissolved or packed with leftists and/or disciplined by the President or Congress if it rules in a way the leftists don’t want.
Logic: Biologically/scientifically there are two genders that are sufficiently different that certain customs and policies are proper and necessary for the common good. That people want to be a different gender than they were born does not change that biological fact.
Leftism: People should be able to choose whatever gender they want to be and it should be criminal not to recognize, support, approve, fully integrate and accommodate and use the proper pronouns for whatever they choose to be.
Logic: For a government to be of, for and by the people, the people must be confident that the electoral process and results are honest and secure.
Leftism: No matter how many people mistrust the process and results, it is more important that as many (leftist) people vote as possible and if that results in cheating/illegalities, oh well.
Logic: A free people can live, work, play, think, speak, believe, worship, aspire in peace so long as they do not infringe on anybody else’s unalienable rights. The Founders intended the Constitution to promote that concept for all.
Leftism: The government should have full authority to dictate how people must live, work, think, speak, believe, worship and what choices, options, and opportunities will be available to them.
There are many many more of these examples and it is the OP’s intention that others can be added.
Problem you have is the countries that have the best quality of life are to the left of the Democratic Party.LOGIC vs AMERICAN LEFTISM
Everything written into the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the founding documents, debates, expressed thoughts, concepts, ideas, proposals, and adopted policy was based on logic and reason. The intention was a country of, for and by the people based on liberty with government having as little authority and influence as possible and still have a cohesive and effective country and that would be a guiding light to other countries to become the same.
Logic toward that end was what I believe the Founders would have endorsed and promoted as policy, culture, law, customs. Bottom line their logic was the best America was a strong, secure America with liberty, choices, options, opportunity, prosperity and ability to reach for dreams for all as well be a positive influence in the world.
American Leftism is increasingly antithetical to everything logical that allows for the America the Founders envisioned. It pushes for a government controlled by them to increase their power, authority, influence, and demand what policy, culture, law, customs will be acceptable. And many seem to think a one world government is the ideal
Logic: A small limited government is the key to maximum liberty, opportunity, prosperity.
Leftism: The people are incapable of governing themselves and need a strong government to ensure they do things the way they are supposed to do them.
Logic A. The best policy is that which allows and encourages the people to be able to better provide for themselves.
Leftism: Those who believe A are greedy, selfish, hate the poor.
Logic: In 1948 Israel was established by the U.N., on a TINY piece of land Jews have occupied for thousands of years and consider The Holy Land, as a homeland for Jews cruelly displaced by WWII and/or persecuted in other places. That became international law.
Leftism: The heirs of the Palestinians have every right to return even though they left so the Arabs could kill all the Jews but the Jews have no right to return to their historical homeland.
Logic: The Supreme Court may rule rightly or wrongly but they are an important concept in separation of powers essential for the Constitution to work effectively.
Leftism: The Supreme Court should have unchallenged ability to make law the leftists want but should be dissolved or packed with leftists and/or disciplined by the President or Congress if it rules in a way the leftists don’t want.
Logic: Biologically/scientifically there are two genders that are sufficiently different that certain customs and policies are proper and necessary for the common good. That people want to be a different gender than they were born does not change that biological fact.
Leftism: People should be able to choose whatever gender they want to be and it should be criminal not to recognize, support, approve, fully integrate and accommodate and use the proper pronouns for whatever they choose to be.
Logic: For a government to be of, for and by the people, the people must be confident that the electoral process and results are honest and secure.
Leftism: No matter how many people mistrust the process and results, it is more important that as many (leftist) people vote as possible and if that results in cheating/illegalities, oh well.
Logic: A free people can live, work, play, think, speak, believe, worship, aspire in peace so long as they do not infringe on anybody else’s unalienable rights. The Founders intended the Constitution to promote that concept for all.
Leftism: The government should have full authority to dictate how people must live, work, think, speak, believe, worship and what choices, options, and opportunities will be available to them.
There are many many more of these examples and it is the OP’s intention that others can be added.
No sir. Stop lying. It doesn’t become you. We all know what the words conservative and leftist mean.
Only when its convenient for them.
Pretty much the same thing now. Hell, 95% of "conservatives" I know are leftist. They only ACT conservative when Ds are in power.No sir. Stop lying. It doesn’t become you. We all know what the words conservative and leftist mean.
Oh baloney. You don’t know what leftist means. Was it Republicans out there burning down cities wearing pink vagina costumes? No.Pretty much the same thing now. Hell, 95% of "conservatives" I know are leftist. They only ACT conservative when Ds are in power.
Something else I could have added to the original examples, i.e.What you say is true. Down to the "logic" piece.
At the same time government is necessary to keep big business from doing the kinds of things it did in the early to mid 90's to stamp out competition and coerce the workforce. Less government regulations is not going to prosper those individuals who run the show. They depend on government to protect them.
I worked for a couple of muti-nationals and it was quite clear that they used government and their influence to keep competative and "prosper".
I don't agree with your "logic be damned" statement. The left simply choses to cede more of it's natural rights in exchange for what they consider to be "protection" from certain vagaries. They are not without some proof to an extent. The lapland countries are "socialist" but enjoy a lot of great benenfits because of their government. And they don't hurt for wealth.
I don't want over regulation. What I don't like though is this idea that somehow big business and government are at odds. Together they work to keep us down. And since big business is not part of government, you can't argue that it is just the fault of government.
Logic dictates that some people will game the system and that government has to be scrutinized much more than it is. We allow this to happen because.....logic tell us that far to many are to freaking lazy to care.
Thats why you guys are rallying around a leftist?Oh baloney. You don’t know what leftist means. Was it Republicans out there burning down cities wearing pink vagina costumes? No.
I’ll agree that there are a few Republicans in Congress that act like liberals occasionally. But few and far between. And, certainly not leftists.
Oh stop! It’s the Democrats that keep Blacks and Hispanics separate in their ghettos with welfare and Obama phones. Dumb. Trump also put up a DACA progress in which is better than what democrats have and the Democrats voted it down. Democrats have huge deficits. Like what Biden has added and what Obama added.Thats why you guys are rallying around a leftist?
Huge deficits. Giving communities money based on their skin color. Attacks on the 2nd. DACA etc etc etc
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Bub...dems don't give a shit about any of that. Because they don't run by logic...they run by virtue signaling and sick brain.
Can this country be saved??
You can't reason with commie dems, bub. So, what are your other options? A guest on one of the YT channels summed up the best conservatives can hope for. He said our goal as conservatives should be 'to conserve the good and improve on the bad.' I believe we have passed the point of no return. A country can go in 3 directions. It can be getting better, staying the same or getting worse. America only goes in 1 direction...getting worse and worse.
Without secession, it is a never-ending battle with the dems. You must accept you are useless to stop them. So, stop playing that game. Let them destroy their part of America. But if you secede you won't have to litigate on a daily basis, defining what a woman is or whether to have police and prisons or fighting confiscation of your guns. In other words, you can conserve the good and improve on the bad.
Stop the madness!
Reps, you've lost...accept it, move on and conserve / save what you can. If you do not accept this, you will eventually lose all 50 states to the commies...perpetually.
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"the rest of"?So you think. Wait until the Democrats come and take the rest of your property and guns.
I respect your conclusion though I think it is short sighted. We don't know Clinton was about to give in at that time. They had to measure the figurative pain and suffering to innocent people in order to get their way against demanding their own way. I'm not saying they were right at that time but I think at the time it was a strategic and temporary retreat.When they caved on the budget that they promised not to cave on, just a day or two before Clinton was going to give in.
Also, that pap they spewed after their "Contract with America" bills got passed and later died in the Senate....They quit fighting and meekly whined "well, we triiiiiiiiied"...Democrats never quit on anything.
I vowed to never ever vote for a republican not named Ron Paul again, and haven't been sorry to this point.
That’s because Republicans stopped it."the rest of"?
Have Democrats taken any of your property or guns?
