Trump Leading In Wisconsin

[Lastamender]

I don't have to. You have to prove an allegation not demand a rebuttal.

I proved it. The numbers are posted and no one disputes them. Or you cannot find anyone who does.

 

[lafayette]

No, Lastamender makes allegations, says he has fulfilled his burden of proof, and that is not how it works.

 

[justoffal]

I don't get how it can even be this close! Who are all these people voting for Harris? What are they voting for? Did they learn NOTHING after voting for Biden?

There's not much thinking going on.
You have abortion which is bigger than I thought it would be....hell there's a percentage of men hanging on that issue. You have immigration....lots of stupid citizens believe we have no right to national sovereignty.....you have the economy...the biggest one and the reason the administration keeps lying their asses of off About inflation and cost of living...and that's 90 percent of it.

The rest is stupid little pissant shit like " I hate Trump"....." Time to give a woman a shot"..."January sixth"...." Trump and Putin".... And a few others.

That about covers the Harris voters.

 

[toobfreak]

You have abortion which is bigger than I thought it would be....hell there's a percentage of men hanging on that issue.

I just saw a tape on TV of Harris being interviewed saying that the CHOICE of abortion (right to one's body) has been taken away and must be restored and Harris will do that!

NO IT HASN'T. If you actually look, nearly all states are essentially still following RvW. They still allow abortion. One state allows 20 weeks, another state allows 15 weeks. A very few only allow 6 weeks. Maybe 1-3 are trying to not allow any abortion at all. It is all still in flux. Abortions are actually UP since the Dobbs decision! Yet no interviewer ever points any of that out.

Further, is it really only the woman's body? What about the SEPARATE body of the fetus? That is ANOTHER body. Then there is the matter of responsibility. For the most part, there are many responsible ways of avoiding unwanted pregnancies--- why is this never mentioned? Does no one ever wonder that if women were held to some level of responsibility for wanton sex, they might try harder to NOT get pregnant in the first place rather than just considering the fetus a disposable entity to be spit out when inconvenient?

 

[Missourian]

Polls are snapshot in time and mean nothing.

Trafalgar is notably far right wing.

It's a dead even race right now.

NBC is reporting the Harris Campaign is seeing the same results...

“There has been a thought that maybe Michigan or Wisconsin will fall off,” said a senior Harris campaign official, who stressed that the bigger concern is over Michigan. Two other people with knowledge of campaign strategy — who, like others in this article, were granted anonymity to speak candidly — also underscored deep concern about Michigan. Those people still believe that all the states are close and that there are alternative routes to victory"

Democrats brace for a possible crack in the blue wall and signs of North Carolina slipping

The Harris campaign has privately flagged concerns about Michigan. But officials stress the race is close across the board.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Thunderbird]

It’s best to look at a variety of polls.

Trump is now ahead in all the swing states.

Trump is ahead in the betting odds.

And remember Trump usually outperforms his poll numbers.

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[boevans]

NBC is reporting the Harris Campaign is seeing the same results...

“There has been a thought that maybe Michigan or Wisconsin will fall off,” said a senior Harris campaign official, who stressed that the bigger concern is over Michigan. Two other people with knowledge of campaign strategy — who, like others in this article, were granted anonymity to speak candidly — also underscored deep concern about Michigan. Those people still believe that all the states are close and that there are alternative routes to victory"

Democrats brace for a possible crack in the blue wall and signs of North Carolina slipping

The Harris campaign has privately flagged concerns about Michigan. But officials stress the race is close across the board.

www.nbcnews.com

That is a fair summary, which mirrors Trump's issues with MI and WI.

It is so close no one can really call the race with any sense of accuracy.

 

[BluesLegend]

It's the ECONOMY stupid.

 

[lafayette]

The economy is great, my friend.

 

[justoffal]

I just saw a tape on TV of Harris being interviewed saying that the CHOICE of abortion (right to one's body) has been taken away and must be restored and Harris will do that!

NO IT HASN'T. If you actually look, nearly all states are essentially still following RvW. They still allow abortion. One state allows 20 weeks, another state allows 15 weeks. A very few only allow 6 weeks. Maybe 1-3 are trying to not allow any abortion at all. It is all still in flux. Abortions are actually UP since the Dobbs decision! Yet no interviewer ever points any of that out.

Further, is it really only the woman's body? What about the SEPARATE body of the fetus? That is ANOTHER body. Then there is the matter of responsibility. For the most part, there are many responsible ways of avoiding unwanted pregnancies--- why is this never mentioned? Does no one ever wonder that if women were held to some level of responsibility for wanton sex, they might try harder to NOT get pregnant in the first place rather than just considering the fetus a disposable entity to be spit out when inconvenient?

I am staunchly pro-life; However I am not a woman and I don't see myself as having any authority in this argument. I also do not see the sense of expending energies to convince people who are determined to be pro-life choice to change their minds.

The only issue I will argue with is being forced to pay for their decision.

If you make that decision pay for it yourself. That is the one and only issue I see here...the rest of it is a complete waste of time in my opinion.

Not that I don't value the life of The unborn but I am absolutely powerless to affect it one way or another.

 

[Thunderbird]

This alone will sink Harris:

 

[toobfreak]

I am staunchly pro-life; However I am not a woman and I don't see myself as having any authority in this argument. I also do not see the sense of expending energies to convince people who are determined to be pro-life choice to change their minds.

The only issue I will argue with is being forced to pay for their decision.

If you make that decision pay for it yourself. That is the one and only issue I see here...the rest of it is a complete waste of time in my opinion.

Not that I don't value the life of The unborn but I am absolutely powerless to affect it one way or another.

All good points. I think that is reasonable. I am pro-life too, but similar to you, my position is that if a woman wants to abort her child, why make it easy for her unless it was not due to her own actions? (forcible rape, etc.), expect to be held responsible for the cost, expect to do it in a timely way (at least by the 15th-20th week or whatever), and expect to go through counseling where at least, you are given the chance to reconsider what it is that you are about to do and maybe change your mind.