Liz Warren Claims She's More Qualified To Be Sec of Def Because She Has Two Brothers That Served

[Marener]

The drawdown and preparation took longer than anticipated.

Because he was incompetent.

 

[Rawley]

Because he was incompetent.

Your pain brings us joy

 

[Marener]

Your pain brings us joy

I feel bad for you. Hatred for fellow Americans really consumes you.

 

[Rawley]

I feel bad for you. Hatred for fellow Americans really consumes you.

Backatcha. The majority of Americans believe he's competent and rejected your party and it's ideology. Sad that you hate the majority of Americans,

 

[DBA]

The military leadership changed his mind. The same military that MAGA hates with a passion.

Ironic, isn’t it?

Does that mean that Joe went against the advice of the military leadership? Just curious?

 

[Marener]

Does that mean that Joe went against the advice of the military leadership? Just curious?

Yes. The military didn’t want to end the war.

 

[fncceo]

Liz Warren Claims She's More Qualified To Be Sec of Def Because ...​

... she fought all those settlers...

 

[DBA]

Yes. The military didn’t want to end the war.

Whatever their motivations, it turns out they were correct. Trump made the correct choice and Biden didn’t. Yes, Trump had to break his promise to remove troops from Afghanistan, but it was the prudent choice to do so.

I may promise my kids that we are going to the park this weekend, but if a tornado is spotted in the area, I may just have to break that promise. Even kids understand that all broken promises are not equivalent.

 

[Marener]

Whatever their motivations, it turns out they were correct. Trump made the correct choice and Biden didn’t. Yes, Trump had to break his promise to remove troops from Afghanistan, but it was the prudent choice to do so.

I may promise my kids that we are going to the park this weekend, but if a tornado is spotted in the area, I may just have to break that promise. Even kids understand that all broken promises are not equivalent.

So the military was right, but Trump and MAGA heap scorn on them for wanting to perpetuate “forever wars” yet here you are praising them.

It’s almost as if you guys don’t actually believe anything.

 

[DBA]

So the military was right, but Trump and MAGA heap scorn on them for wanting to perpetuate “forever wars” yet here you are praising them.

It’s almost as if you guys don’t actually believe anything.

You act as if everything is absolute: Black and white. Life doesn’t work that way. The military could be right about some things and wrong about others. Trump did conflict with the militray brass because of their woke policies. He was/is correct. That doesn’t mean that some of their decisions weren’t correct and in fact Trump was man enough to trust them, despite having contempt for their overall performance. Would you change your mind about the overall performance of your financial advisor because he made one good stock pick in your portfolio that was down 15% in a bull market?

 

[Marener]

You act as if everything is absolute: Black and white. Life doesn’t work that way. The military could be right about some things and wrong about others. Trump did conflict with the militray brass because of their woke policies. He was/is correct. That doesn’t mean that some of their decisions weren’t correct and in fact Trump was man enough to trust them, despite having contempt for their overall performance. Would you change your mind about the overall performance of your financial advisor because he made one good stock pick in your portfolio that was down 15% in a bull market?

MAGA acts that way.

If you ever have any clip of Trump saying anything you’re saying, be sure to share it because I haven’t heard any such thing.

All you do is make rationalization after rationalization. Defend Trump no matter what. Trump cannot be criticized.

 

[DBA]

MAGA acts that way.

If you ever have any clip of Trump saying anything you’re saying, be sure to share it because I haven’t heard any such thing.

All you do is make rationalization after rationalization. Defend Trump no matter what. Trump cannot be criticized.

I will criticize Trump during this tenure, but granted, I have to spend most of my time defending him from lunacy fake attacks from the left. He definitely makes mistakes. When do you ever give him credit for anything? It is a two way street.

 

[Marener]

I will criticize Trump during this tenure, but granted, I have to spend most of my time defending him from lunacy fake attacks from the left. He definitely makes mistakes. When do you ever give him credit for anything? It is a two way street.

You won’t even criticize him for tweeting that the soldiers would be home for Christmas.

 

[JoeB131]

What other reason would Trump have for firing the SOBs?

Obama fired one of his 3 stars for the same exact thing.

Uh, he fired Flynn because the guy was an Islamophobic Twat who was alienating our allies in the region.

And being a supply clerk in the Army doesn't make you a good judge of someone else's qualifications.

Sure it does. When I was a Supply NCO, I knew which officers were going to be complete tools vs. which ones you could reason with.

Especially since you have no clue what he knows or what training he's done on his own outside of his military training.

Well, I know that he ran a PAC in MN that folded because of financial mismanagement, including him throwing Christmas parties for his friends. I guess you can buy a lot of Christmas parties for 800 Billion.

I learned in special forces how to run an entire battalion. He was an infantry major, which means he was training to be a colonel.

He was in the National Guard. It mean that he was maybe a 1LT in the real army and didn't know when to get off the stage.

If you can plan and write an Operations Order, then you pretty much know everything needed to run a large unit. The bigger the unit, the more complex the planning becomes. I'm sure Pete has given a lot of Briefbacks in front of a large group of men or DOD officials like I have. I'm sure he's been to O & I school as well, which teaches you how to fill out the proper forms, as well as teaches you how to research military intelligence.

Blah, blah, blah.... the guy couldn't even get a daily gig on Faux News. He was regulated to the weekends when no one is watching.

Trump laid out a timeline for withdrawal with set actions that must take place before moving on to the next phase.

Except the Taliban ignored that timeline. That was the point. They kept up attacks in the areas where US Troops weren't stationed. Eventually, the warlords in those areas just switched sides again.

Doha was a surrender to the Taliban, period, full stop. It was another case of Trump handing Biden a bag of shit and telling him to deal with it.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, why are you evil? Did the Army cause it? What makes you attack my religion group?

Because you are a deranged cult started by a child-molesting con artist.

What's the difference between Joseph Smith and David Koresh? Original and Extra-Crispy!!!

I actually had my first encounters with Lying Deranged Simps (LDS) while I was in the service. Never met a bunch of more smile in your face, stab you in the back mother fuckers in my entire life. And that's before I started educating myself on the crazy shit you people believe.

Biden has a legacy in Congress and Joe when you think he is a wimp, I agree. But Biden worked hard not to honor Trumps deals.

Former President Donald Trump on Monday blamed the “inept Afghan government” for releasing 5,000 Taliban prisoners last year, even though the Trump administration called for prisoner swaps in an agreement with the Taliban.

So Joe, Trump was very upset with the Afghan Government.

Trump was upset with the Afghan government for doing what he agreed to.

Let's be blunt and honest here (I know, you're a Mormon, that's hard.) EVERYONE knew at the time that Doha was an abject surrender to the Taliban because the corrupt Afghan government we had been propping up for two decades just couldn't get it's shit together. Doha was just meant to save face. But because 13 service members were killed by a third party, Trump couldn't resist using their coffins as a soap box.

 

[JoeB131]

I will criticize Trump during this tenure, but granted, I have to spend most of my time defending him from lunacy fake attacks from the left. He definitely makes mistakes. When do you ever give him credit for anything? It is a two way street.

Because he fucked up everything he touched. Most of what he did right was only because the sensible people around him pushed back and kept him from doing stuff that was too crazy.

Today, he calls those people the "Deep State" and he's appointing nuts like Bobby Brainworm and Gaetz to important positions.

 

[JoeB131]

Had he overseen the same withdrawal that Biden implemented, you loons would have been all over him as would I. As usual, you are being hypocritical.

Well, someone might have actually started asking questions about why he gave away the store at Doha.

But Democrats didn't even push back and do that.

 

[JoeB131]

Does that mean that Joe went against the advice of the military leadership? Just curious?

The Military leadership wasn't being realistic. They wanted to keep troops in Afghanistan forever.

The Afghans wanted us out.

The mistake Biden made was listening to them and extending the withdraw date to August. He should have had everyone out in April, and tell the contractors they had to get their own rides out.

 

[mudwhistle]

Uh, he fired Flynn because the guy was an Islamophobic Twat who was alienating our allies in the region.



Sure it does. When I was a Supply NCO, I knew which officers were going to be complete tools vs. which ones you could reason with.



Well, I know that he ran a PAC in MN that folded because of financial mismanagement, including him throwing Christmas parties for his friends. I guess you can buy a lot of Christmas parties for 800 Billion.



He was in the National Guard. It mean that he was maybe a 1LT in the real army and didn't know when to get off the stage.



Blah, blah, blah.... the guy couldn't even get a daily gig on Faux News. He was regulated to the weekends when no one is watching.



Except the Taliban ignored that timeline. That was the point. They kept up attacks in the areas where US Troops weren't stationed. Eventually, the warlords in those areas just switched sides again.

Doha was a surrender to the Taliban, period, full stop. It was another case of Trump handing Biden a bag of shit and telling him to deal with it.

Obama fired McChrystal because he said that the way Obama was running the war in Afghanistan was screwed up.

Obama doesn't know jack-squat about military tactics, and McChrystal said it showed with his ridiculous policies.

His soldiers were being killed by Afghan military members they were supposed to be training and supporting. Obama simply told them to be more aware of their surroundings. "Make sure you always turn your chair facing the door."

McChrystal was critical of Obama, so Obama fired him, yet you feel you can get away with saying that any general on Trump's staff that commits treason or mutiny is cool because they're only following their conscience. Total double-standard.

What kind of a soldier were you anyway?

It's pretty clear that you don't know much about modern warfare. Nobody in Supply knows shit about being a ground-pounder. I started out my career in the signal corp, and I volunteered for SF. You cannot imagine how little you know about being an infantryman. The training alone would make you shit your pants. Never mind actually being in firefights on a regular basis. To me, the training was harder.

 

[JoeB131]

Obama fired McChrystal because he said that the way Obama was running the war in Afghanistan was screwed up.

So he was fired for insubordination. It's nice if you actually specified which officer Obama fired.

McChrystal made disparaging comments to Rolling Stone about Obama and Biden. That's why he was fired, as any officer would be.

Obama doesn't know jack-squat about military tactics, and McChrystal said it showed with his ridiculous policies.

His soldiers were being killed by Afghan military members they were supposed to be training and supporting. Obama simply told them to be more aware of their surroundings. "Make sure you always turn your chair facing the door."

Now, here's the thing. I think that escalating in Afghanistan was the biggest mistake that Obama made. The Afghan government was notoriously corrupt, and most of the warlords were were allied with had been allied to the Taliban before the invasion.

The stupidity was inserting ourselves into a civil war that has been raging for 40 years. We should have just been in there to kill Al Qaeda and then leave. But any chance we had of defeating the Taliban and Al Qaeda was blown by Bush who pulled out to invade Iraq.

Obama tried to portray Iraq as the 'War of choice" and Afghanistan as "the war of necessity" so he wouldn't get slapped with the usual "democrats are wimps" garbage.

What kind of a soldier were you anyway?

The kind who didn't spend his life pimping off the MIC like you do, and then complain about the MIC. I got old, cynical, and realize that like all large organizations, the military tends to suffer group think.

It's pretty clear that you don't know much about modern warfare. Nobody in Supply knows shit about being a ground-pounder. I started out my career in the signal corp, and I volunteered for SF. You cannot imagine how little you know about being an infantryman. The training alone would make you shit your pants. Never mind actually being in firefights on a regular basis. To me, the training was harder.

Most of my time in was spent with an infantry unit. But, no, we were never in a firefight. Now that you've completed your obligatory dick-measuring contest, please tell me what Hegseth's qualifications are to run an 800-billion department, of which "infantry" is only a small part.

The problem here isn't that Hegseth is the most qualified guy, he's the guy least likely to invoke Amendment 25 as Trump's brain continues to turn to mush.