‘Living fossil’ rediscovered in Pacific Ocean after 273 million years

Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.
Meanwhile while, explain why a fish that supposedly lived 273 million years ago has not changed, and another fish that supposedly went extinct 63 million years ago is yummy when backed with lemon.
See post #32.

Why did the gods allow for incestuous and familial relations with the A&E and Noah tales?
Off topic. I want to know why evolution has zero evidence to support it.
I want to know how science has whizzed past you and you never noticed.
Made my wealth via science.
Now you get into the personal attacks because you’re cornered.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.

Why hasn't this creature "evolved" in over 270MM years?


It was explained earlier that, “The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target”.

As you probably have not discerned, the oceans are not subject to the extremes of environment that affect the planet’s surface. Changes in environment therefore do not exert a similar “fitness for survival” pressure to adapt.

Are the gods playing a cruel joke on you by leaving the existence of a marine animal millions of years old to confound the notion of a 6,000 year old planet?

Why did the gods invent only one talking snake?

How do you know a rock is 273 million years old?
Ah. A man told you.

There are many ways to date rocks. How do you know the planet is 6,000 years old? You read it in a book.

How do you date a rock?

Many ways. As early as 7th grade earth science.

Earth science is not taught at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah, right?
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.
Meanwhile while, explain why a fish that supposedly lived 273 million years ago has not changed, and another fish that supposedly went extinct 63 million years ago is yummy when backed with lemon.
See post #32.

Why did the gods allow for incestuous and familial relations with the A&E and Noah tales?
Off topic. I want to know why evolution has zero evidence to support it.
I want to know how science has whizzed past you and you never noticed.
Made my wealth via science.
Now you get into the personal attacks because you’re cornered.
What personal attacks?

Do you feel cornered?
 
Why did the gods leave a "living fossil", 270 million yeas old, on a 6,000 year old planet?

 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.

Why hasn't this creature "evolved" in over 270MM years?


It was explained earlier that, “The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target”.

As you probably have not discerned, the oceans are not subject to the extremes of environment that affect the planet’s surface. Changes in environment therefore do not exert a similar “fitness for survival” pressure to adapt.

Are the gods playing a cruel joke on you by leaving the existence of a marine animal millions of years old to confound the notion of a 6,000 year old planet?

Why did the gods invent only one talking snake?

How do you know a rock is 273 million years old?
Ah. A man told you.

There are many ways to date rocks. How do you know the planet is 6,000 years old? You read it in a book.

How do you date a rock?

Many ways. As early as 7th grade earth science.

Earth science is not taught at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah, right?

I knew it. You don’t even know how rocks are dated. You’re just a sheeple who parrots what your masters tell you.
If you were educated and knew, you’d sound a little different.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Curious. What’s that 10% of species from before the world began look like?
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.

Why hasn't this creature "evolved" in over 270MM years?


It was explained earlier that, “The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target”.

As you probably have not discerned, the oceans are not subject to the extremes of environment that affect the planet’s surface. Changes in environment therefore do not exert a similar “fitness for survival” pressure to adapt.

Are the gods playing a cruel joke on you by leaving the existence of a marine animal millions of years old to confound the notion of a 6,000 year old planet?

Why did the gods invent only one talking snake?

How do you know a rock is 273 million years old?
Ah. A man told you.

There are many ways to date rocks. How do you know the planet is 6,000 years old? You read it in a book.

How do you date a rock?

Many ways. As early as 7th grade earth science.

Earth science is not taught at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah, right?

I knew it. You don’t even know how rocks are dated. You’re just a sheeple who parrots what your masters tell you.
If you were educated and knew, you’d sound a little different.

You were hoping I would tell you how rocks are dated?

You can find that out for yourself. Type the following into a search engine: “how are rocks dated”.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Curious. What’s that 10% of species from before the world began look like?
I was thinking more like "In the beginning..."
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.

Why hasn't this creature "evolved" in over 270MM years?


It was explained earlier that, “The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target”.

As you probably have not discerned, the oceans are not subject to the extremes of environment that affect the planet’s surface. Changes in environment therefore do not exert a similar “fitness for survival” pressure to adapt.

Are the gods playing a cruel joke on you by leaving the existence of a marine animal millions of years old to confound the notion of a 6,000 year old planet?

Why did the gods invent only one talking snake?

How do you know a rock is 273 million years old?
Ah. A man told you.

There are many ways to date rocks. How do you know the planet is 6,000 years old? You read it in a book.

How do you date a rock?

Many ways. As early as 7th grade earth science.

Earth science is not taught at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah, right?

I knew it. You don’t even know how rocks are dated. You’re just a sheeple who parrots what your masters tell you.
If you were educated and knew, you’d sound a little different.

The difference between science and religion is that every bit of data in science can be independently verified. You can dig up your own set of rocks and run them through a mass spectrometer so you don't have to accept anyone's word.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Sorry, but fossils are rarely made today... And water and mud and pressure and speed are the primary materials needed for the formation of fossils ------- which would likely point to a catastrophic event of a rare magnitude. The animals discovered in fossils are primarily the ones that would not float, and were quickly buried. Birds, and small animals would survive for a time in trees or on floating islands of vegetation --- but not for a year... Such remains would quickly decay and be food for aquatic organisms.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Sorry, but fossils are rarely made today... And water and mud and pressure and speed are the primary materials needed for the formation of fossils ------- which would likely point to a catastrophic event of a rare magnitude. The animals discovered in fossils are primarily the ones that would not float, and were quickly buried. Birds, and small animals would survive for a time in trees or on floating islands of vegetation --- but not for a year... Such remains would quickly decay and be food for aquatic organisms.
Yep, buried quickly in mud. Like in a flood.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you don't believe in evolution and think God created all life, please explain why over 90% of species that have lived on this planet are now extinct? Poor workmanship?
The universe is in a state of decay since the FALL of ADAM.
Sorry but that conflicts with the fossil evidence since 90+% of species alive today appeared well after the world began and life appeared.
Sorry, but fossils are rarely made today... And water and mud and pressure and speed are the primary materials needed for the formation of fossils ------- which would likely point to a catastrophic event of a rare magnitude. The animals discovered in fossils are primarily the ones that would not float, and were quickly buried. Birds, and small animals would survive for a time in trees or on floating islands of vegetation --- but not for a year... Such remains would quickly decay and be food for aquatic organisms.
Fossils are incredibly rare in any time. A one in a billion chance. That why there aren't very many compared to the billions of years the earth has been around and all the things that have lived and died on it during that time.
 
Because we all know this is the pinnacle of evolution so therefore it looks identical to it’s kin 273 million years ago.

Odd after 270 MM years it does not have opposable thumbs or has learned to harvest and process minerals to build a durable home for itself. Does evolution reach the deep ocean?
Odd that you would presume evolution directs toward human-like anatomy or development of industry.

Odd what they teach at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah.

Evolution: it's an inexorable force that acts upon all living creatures to improve - except when it doesn't
Actually, no. You offered the worst example of the Jimmy Swaggert'ized version of evolution.

Sorry, but your example defines a fundamental misunderstanding of biological evolution. Evolution is not directional. It does not advance inexorably from dumb to smart or from simple to complex. The impression you have that it does so is merely (again) the human tendency to impose our own biases of social progress onto a natural world that does not share them.

Sometimes evolution does makes things more complex (bacteria to annelid worm, for example). But sometimes it makes things less complex (free living organisms to degenerate parasites, for thousands of examples). Most of the time it does neither. The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target

Syntropy vs entropy

So evolution makes "things" happen; no direction, no rhyme or reason. It just does
Well, either evolution makes things happen or you need to explain why your gods are such poor designers that their designs are so often failures.

Why would the gods create mankind out of dust 6,000 years ago, give him sentience, a special place in the universe, and then give animals such similar abilities—just at a lower “wattage”?

Why did the gods try and fool you by making it seem as though we evolved our characteristics from animals similar to us, who share 99.9% of our DNA, instead of designing humans being qualitatively different. Why would the gods do this, particularly when the bible says man will have dominion over all beasts?

I thought you were going to provide the complete fossil record of Adam & Eve and their offspring. That would go a long way to supporting the notion of a 6,000 year old planet and supernatural, godly design.

Why hasn't this creature "evolved" in over 270MM years?


It was explained earlier that, “The only direction evolution always moves is towards “more fit.” And since the definition of fitness is dependent on and changes with the environment, it is a constantly moving target”.

As you probably have not discerned, the oceans are not subject to the extremes of environment that affect the planet’s surface. Changes in environment therefore do not exert a similar “fitness for survival” pressure to adapt.

Are the gods playing a cruel joke on you by leaving the existence of a marine animal millions of years old to confound the notion of a 6,000 year old planet?

Why did the gods invent only one talking snake?

How do you know a rock is 273 million years old?
Ah. A man told you.

There are many ways to date rocks. How do you know the planet is 6,000 years old? You read it in a book.

How do you date a rock?

Many ways. As early as 7th grade earth science.

Earth science is not taught at the Jimmy Swaggert madrassah, right?

I knew it. You don’t even know how rocks are dated. You’re just a sheeple who parrots what your masters tell you.
If you were educated and knew, you’d sound a little different.

The difference between science and religion is that every bit of data in science can be independently verified. You can dig up your own set of rocks and run them through a mass spectrometer so you don't have to accept anyone's word.

Verified like species being identical to their kin from hundreds of millions of years ago?

Mass spectrometry tells you the age of rocks? Do tell!

And please include in your report to the class a chapter on superposition.
 

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