List the 5 Presidents you most admire and the reason

[rightwinger]

1. Teddy Roosevelt - the most badass of all Presidents. We could use someone with his stones today.

2. James Monroe - the Monroe doctrine should never have been abandoned

3. Thomas Jefferson - founding father, declaration of independence, Louisiana purchase

4. George Washington - for obvious reasons

5. Abe Lincoln - saved the Union

Saying Lincoln saved the Union is like saying Obama saved us from the Ebola his lame ass border control policies allowed in here.

Seems we had a Union after Lincoln ...was that an accident?

 

[Dan Daly]

Not too hard

Lincoln: Preserved the union, made us the UNITED STATES not just a bunch of states that were united

FDR: Brought us through the depression, showed how a modern democracy should act, carried us through WWII, Made us a Superpower

Teddy Roosevelt: One of our first modern presidents, showed what presidential power was about, Panama Canal, broke up the trusts, National Parks

Wilson: Gave us a modern monetary system, Brought us through WWI and helped broker the peace

Washington: Layed the groundwork for future Presidents and Presidential Powers

1. Teddy Roosevelt - the most badass of all Presidents. We could use someone with his stones today.

2. James Monroe - the Monroe doctrine should never have been abandoned

3. Thomas Jefferson - founding father, declaration of independence, Louisiana purchase

4. George Washington - for obvious reasons

5. Abe Lincoln - saved the Union

Saying Lincoln saved the Union is like saying Obama saved us from the Ebola his lame ass border control policies allowed in here.

Seems we had a Union after Lincoln ...was that an accident?

If the union needs to be held together by force, violence and threat of violence, it isn't much of a union. Had we lost the Revolution would you have hailed King George for saving the empire?

 

[Roadrunner]

FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT- gave people hope through Great Depression and WW II

ABRAHAM LINCOLN- dealt with Civil War and still attended to westward expansion

These two top the list of presidents who killed the most Americans in unnecessary wars.

FDR:
WW II enslaved millions to Communism.
The Communist Agent Who Caused Pearl Harbor — and Global Economic Havoc

Lincoln:
Many nations succeeded in ending slavery without a brutal civil war.
Forced into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream

FDR was a Dem demagogue who got taken to the cleaners by Stalin.

Hundreds of millions suffered because he thought he could wheel and deal with Stalin like he was some NYC ward boss.

How did FDR get taken to the cleaners by Stalin?

FDR lost 400,000 in the war, Stalin lost 10 million

I'm not here to educate you.

But, ask the East Europeans in countries "liberated" by Stalin how they feel about the Yalta capitulation.

BTW, Obama gonna save NYC from Ebola?

 

[Unkotare]

It's only a false analogy because you don't like it. ...

It's a false analogy because it's a false analogy. In fact, it is juvenile and ignorant. In every Confederate state except South Carolina, entire regiments were formed to fight on behalf of the Union. More than 100,000 men from the south actively fought against the Confederacy during the war. How does that fit into your idiotic analogy? How does slavery or a dozen other factors? They don't, because the half-baked notion you are so proud of makes no sense.

 

[Dan Daly]

Mao saved China,

It's only a false analogy because you don't like it. ...

It's a false analogy because it's a false analogy. In fact, it is juvenile and ignorant. In every Confederate state except South Carolina, entire regiments were formed to fight on behalf of the Union. More than 100,000 men from the south actively fought against the Confederacy during the war. How does that fit into your idiotic analogy? How does slavery or a dozen other factors? They don't, because the half-baked notion you are so proud of makes no sense.

No, actually your reply is what is juvenile and ignorant. "I'm right because I'm right" isn't a rational, factual rebuttal, it's an admission of not having a rational, factual, rebuttal.

That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework. Try again, cupcake.

 

[Unkotare]

That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework.

Attempting to draw out the analogy only highlights how inapplicable it is, dopey. You're making it worse for yourself.

 

[Dan Daly]

Mao saved China,

It's only a false analogy because you don't like it. ...

It's a false analogy because it's a false analogy. In fact, it is juvenile and ignorant. In every Confederate state except South Carolina, entire regiments were formed to fight on behalf of the Union. More than 100,000 men from the south actively fought against the Confederacy during the war. How does that fit into your idiotic analogy? How does slavery or a dozen other factors? They don't, because the half-baked notion you are so proud of makes no sense.

No, actually your reply is what is juvenile and ignorant. That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework. Try again, cupcake.

That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework.

Attempting to draw out the analogy only highlights how inapplicable it is, dopey. You're making it worse for yourself.

You still haven't managed to refute the analogy with more than "cuz i said so" cupcake. Keep trying, sooner or later even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

 

[rightwinger]

Not too hard

Lincoln: Preserved the union, made us the UNITED STATES not just a bunch of states that were united

FDR: Brought us through the depression, showed how a modern democracy should act, carried us through WWII, Made us a Superpower

Teddy Roosevelt: One of our first modern presidents, showed what presidential power was about, Panama Canal, broke up the trusts, National Parks

Wilson: Gave us a modern monetary system, Brought us through WWI and helped broker the peace

Washington: Layed the groundwork for future Presidents and Presidential Powers

1. Teddy Roosevelt - the most badass of all Presidents. We could use someone with his stones today.

2. James Monroe - the Monroe doctrine should never have been abandoned

3. Thomas Jefferson - founding father, declaration of independence, Louisiana purchase

4. George Washington - for obvious reasons

5. Abe Lincoln - saved the Union

Saying Lincoln saved the Union is like saying Obama saved us from the Ebola his lame ass border control policies allowed in here.

Seems we had a Union after Lincoln ...was that an accident?

If the union needs to be held together by force, violence and threat of violence, it isn't much of a union. Had we lost the Revolution would you have hailed King George for saving the empire?

Probably

 

[Unkotare]

Mao saved China...

How do you figure?

 

[Unkotare]

You still haven't managed to refute the analogy ...

Yes I did, by pointing out to you that the situation was in no way analogous to two individuals deciding not to remain married. Your only response was to try and extend an already false analogy.

 

[gipper]

Mao saved China,

It's only a false analogy because you don't like it. ...

It's a false analogy because it's a false analogy. In fact, it is juvenile and ignorant. In every Confederate state except South Carolina, entire regiments were formed to fight on behalf of the Union. More than 100,000 men from the south actively fought against the Confederacy during the war. How does that fit into your idiotic analogy? How does slavery or a dozen other factors? They don't, because the half-baked notion you are so proud of makes no sense.

No, actually your reply is what is juvenile and ignorant. That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework. Try again, cupcake.

That your wife's brother helped you beat her and keep her enslaved to you doesn't justify your use of force and violence to keep her against her will, nor does her owning of slaves to do her housework.

Attempting to draw out the analogy only highlights how inapplicable it is, dopey. You're making it worse for yourself.

You still haven't managed to refute the analogy with more than "cuz i said so" cupcake. Keep trying, sooner or later even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

There can be no refutation or justification for Lincoln's murderous rampage.

Killing 850,000 Americans and destroying half the nation is entirely indefensible. It is treasonous.

The statists have brainwashed many Americans into thinking preservation of the Union was worth all the death and destruction.

Dishonest Abe said, "A house divided against itself cannot stand." So, he concluded we must keep the house united...by force. Only a murderous tyrant would think such things.

 

[Dan Daly]

Not too hard

Lincoln: Preserved the union, made us the UNITED STATES not just a bunch of states that were united

FDR: Brought us through the depression, showed how a modern democracy should act, carried us through WWII, Made us a Superpower

Teddy Roosevelt: One of our first modern presidents, showed what presidential power was about, Panama Canal, broke up the trusts, National Parks

Wilson: Gave us a modern monetary system, Brought us through WWI and helped broker the peace

Washington: Layed the groundwork for future Presidents and Presidential Powers

1. Teddy Roosevelt - the most badass of all Presidents. We could use someone with his stones today.

2. James Monroe - the Monroe doctrine should never have been abandoned

3. Thomas Jefferson - founding father, declaration of independence, Louisiana purchase

4. George Washington - for obvious reasons

5. Abe Lincoln - saved the Union

Saying Lincoln saved the Union is like saying Obama saved us from the Ebola his lame ass border control policies allowed in here.

Seems we had a Union after Lincoln ...was that an accident?

If the union needs to be held together by force, violence and threat of violence, it isn't much of a union. Had we lost the Revolution would you have hailed King George for saving the empire?

Probably

Well kudos for being honest.

 

[Dan Daly]

You still haven't managed to refute the analogy ...

Yes I did, by pointing out to you that the situation was in no way analogous to two individuals deciding not to remain married. Your only response was to try and extend an already false analogy.

All you did was point out your opinion...backed up by the fact that is was your opinion. Try again, lest I consider you a dimwit.

You cannot prove an analogy false by clicking your ruby slippers together and wishing it so.

 

[gipper]

Not too hard

Lincoln: Preserved the union, made us the UNITED STATES not just a bunch of states that were united

FDR: Brought us through the depression, showed how a modern democracy should act, carried us through WWII, Made us a Superpower

Teddy Roosevelt: One of our first modern presidents, showed what presidential power was about, Panama Canal, broke up the trusts, National Parks

Wilson: Gave us a modern monetary system, Brought us through WWI and helped broker the peace

Washington: Layed the groundwork for future Presidents and Presidential Powers

1. Teddy Roosevelt - the most badass of all Presidents. We could use someone with his stones today.

2. James Monroe - the Monroe doctrine should never have been abandoned

3. Thomas Jefferson - founding father, declaration of independence, Louisiana purchase

4. George Washington - for obvious reasons

5. Abe Lincoln - saved the Union

Saying Lincoln saved the Union is like saying Obama saved us from the Ebola his lame ass border control policies allowed in here.

Seems we had a Union after Lincoln ...was that an accident?

If the union needs to be held together by force, violence and threat of violence, it isn't much of a union. Had we lost the Revolution would you have hailed King George for saving the empire?

Probably

Well kudos for being honest.

Yeah...we should take note of it, since it is the only honest thing I have seen him post.

With that post, he is admitting he is a dupe for the state. Whatever the state tells him is the truth, he will believe.

 

[Dan Daly]

Mao saved China...

How do you figure?

I was thinking that Mao kept China united by winning...but then thought is wasn't the best analogy. Guess I didn't delete it like I thought I did. See, I can admit my own mistakes.

But using that line of reasoning, if Lincoln is to be worshiped for saving the Union, should Assad be just as worshiped for saving Syria?

 

[Unkotare]

Killing 850,000 Americans and destroying half the nation is entirely indefensible. It is treasonous....

A treason committed by the Confederate dogs. All those deaths are on their heads. On the very brink of war, Lincoln supported a Constitutional Amendment that would have guaranteed the institution of slavery in perpetuity in those states where it already existed. Ironically, this would have been the 13th Amendment(!) In an attempt at avoiding armed conflict, he sent only provisions and not ammunition to resupply Fort Sumter. The traitors fired upon the federal garrison anyway. The dogs wanted their war and they would have it no matter what. Well, they got it. An unconscionable number of brave men were led to their deaths because of the obstinate, arrogant fools leading the Confederacy who were willing to sacrifice any number of lives for the sake of evil.

 

[Unkotare]

But using that line of reasoning, if Lincoln is to be worshiped for saving the Union, should Assad be just as worshiped for saving Syria?

The two countries, circumstances, and forms of government (to mention but a few factors) are in no way similar. Another false analogy by you. Why don't you try arguing without relying on analogy for a change? You're not very good at this approach.

 

[Unkotare]

You still haven't managed to refute the analogy ...

Yes I did, by pointing out to you that the situation was in no way analogous to two individuals deciding not to remain married. Your only response was to try and extend an already false analogy.

All you did was point out your opinion....

No, I pointed out specific facts and historical details. Did you even read what I posted?

 

[Dan Daly]

Mao saved China...

How do you figure?

I have no idea where that came from.

Killing 850,000 Americans and destroying half the nation is entirely indefensible. It is treasonous....

A treason committed by the Confederate dogs. All those deaths are on their heads. On the very brink of war, Lincoln supported a Constitutional Amendment that would have guaranteed the institution of slavery in perpetuity in those states where it already existed. Ironically, this would have been the 13th Amendment(!) In an attempt at avoiding armed conflict, he sent only provisions and not ammunition to resupply Fort Sumter. The traitors fired upon the federal garrison anyway. The dogs wanted their war and they would have it no matter what. Well, they got it. An unconscionable number of brave men were led to their deaths because of the obstinate, arrogant fools leading the Confederacy who were willing to sacrifice any number of lives for the sake of evil.

And we could have just let em go to inevitably founder of their own devices...but of course that never crosses the mind of tyrants and abusive, possessive husbands, does it.

 

[Unkotare]

abusive, possessive husbands, does it.

Let it go. That analogy is a dead horse by now. You're just making yourself look like an idiot by trying to ride it.