Like it or not, America is becoming a post-white nation

[Godboy]

How can it be revisionist history if white people even say it happened? I know you feel embarrassed but dont be sore about it. Did you not read the link? You guys are stupid so you run around bumping into each other like retards.

Im white. It didn't happen.

Not trailer trash. White people in congress. You know...important people.

Its good to see you finally admit it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

You have not a clue about anything about our country.

Go read about Benjamin Franlkin and the Iroquois.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The revisionism is coming from the trash here.

Yeah, the Iroquois form of government had an impact on the making of the Constitution.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

Were you asleep in school?

 

[Godboy]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

You have not a clue about anything about our country.

Go read about Benjamin Franlkin and the Iroquois.

Did he say "we got the constitution from the Indians"? Yeah, I didn't think so. Clearly its YOU who doesn't have a clue. You cant go around making up fake historical facts and not expect to get called out on it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

You have not a clue about anything about our country.

Go read about Benjamin Franlkin and the Iroquois.

Did he say "we got the constitution from the Indians"? Yeah, I didn't think so. Clearly its YOU who doesn't have a clue. You cant go around making up fake historical facts and not expect to get called out on it.

You clearly have no idea about what you are talking.

You are making up a false revisionist statement that the Iroqouis did not influence Franklin, the senior member of the convention.

 

[Godboy]

You have not a clue about anything about our country.

Go read about Benjamin Franlkin and the Iroquois.

Did he say "we got the constitution from the Indians"? Yeah, I didn't think so. Clearly its YOU who doesn't have a clue. You cant go around making up fake historical facts and not expect to get called out on it.

You clearly have no idea about what you are talking.

You are making up a false revisionist statement that the Iroqouis did not influence Franklin, the senior member of the convention.

Present your evidence or shut up queer.

 

[tinydancer]

May I make a suggestion?

For those that know and understand please use Six Nations because it gives a truer picture of the how and the why these band members were able to help as compared to Iroquois.

Considering we are talking about one of the first participatory democracies on the planet if not the very first I think Six Nations is far more appropriate.

 

[tinydancer]

Now regarding Franklin, one must also understand that he of all the founding fathers was intimately linked to the Old Testament as well as the New.

The construct of civilized life also comes from the OT.

 

[Asclepias]

Im white. It didn't happen.

Not trailer trash. White people in congress. You know...important people.

Its good to see you finally admit it.

I never hid the fact that you were trailer trash. I knew the first time you responded to a post.

 

[Asclepias]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

Were you asleep in school?

That clown has to be lacking his frontal lobe.. You cant be that oblivious to a fact after you are shown the proof. I think he knows he stepped on his dick while putting his foot in his mouth so if he thinks that if he just denies everything it will go away. The longer he persists the more I will remember and remind him of it.

 

[Asclepias]

Admiring indians and getting our consitution from them are totally different things you ******* moron. You are a stupid son of a *****!

You have not a clue about anything about our country.

Go read about Benjamin Franlkin and the Iroquois.

Did he say "we got the constitution from the Indians"? Yeah, I didn't think so. Clearly its YOU who doesn't have a clue. You cant go around making up fake historical facts and not expect to get called out on it.

Give it a rest. Everyone that reads this thread can see you got schooled. There is no shame in admitting you didn't know. The shame is in being willfully ignorant, being a liar or both.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Now regarding Franklin, one must also understand that he of all the founding fathers was intimately linked to the Old Testament as well as the New.

The construct of civilized life also comes from the OT.

That's one of the neat things about Franklin.

He was the cosmopolitatin American of the 18th century.

A believer in demi-urges and other powers, he could still reach out and recongize the idea of the civilized world, whether Britain, ancient Israel, or the Iroqouis.

 

[Vikrant]

Boss, with all due respect, the population of Indians in the US is very small unless of course you want to count people like Norah Jones and Ms Williams the astronaut as Indians. In that case, the Indian population may touch around 2 million which is 0.6% of the US population. That is it. Your restlessness over this is hardly justified.

 

[MaryL]

Funny a lot of non- whites don't get this. This shouldn't be about race It's about being right and fairness. Shame on you for bringing this up. My god.

 

[Asclepias]

Funny a lot of non- whites don't get this. This shouldn't be about race It's about being right and fairness. Shame on you for bringing this up. My god.

Funny. Thats what we said about the NA's being slaughtered, their land stolen, slavery and jim crow. Enough Whites didn't listen then. Shame on you for forgetting that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I don't understand how breaking up into 2-3 different nations is a good thing. There's no way in hell this will work in the long run.

The glue that makes a nation is its culture and common beliefs.

 

[RKMBrown]

I dont deny my brothers anything. I preach this to everyone I establish a relationship with by giving back what was taught to me. The problem is that it takes time to tear down then build somebody back up to the right way of thinking. Who is going to provide the safety net until that happens? i dont know what you would call me and no i am not trolling white people. Some of them just say some stupid uninformed shit that makes me laugh.

Who are you and where did you put Asclepias? You are preaching to the choir now!

You'll find most conservative libertarian types, such as myself, are not against hand-up systems where people get temporary help targeted to get people back on their feet. There are a great many hand-up programs that are managed by local community organizations. Unfortunately our current system federal system is not a hand-up system it is a hand-out system. Hand-up systems are better but need to be managed locally. A federal check mailed from 2k miles away... there's no mentoring with an anonymous check. The feds don't measure their welfare systems by success, they measure the systems by the amount of money they hand out. The most successful welfare system would be one in which no one needs it. The current system is not sustainable. The honor system is not working.

A great many people on welfare never get off. Never getting off is not temporary. The welfare reforms put in place under Clinton have been turned off by Obama. This trend is not acceptable.

It only looks like a hand out system until you get up close and personal. Without a doubt people abuse the system but you cant shut it down to spite those few. Some people simply will never get off and I am ok with that as I know that is what happens in a capitalistic society. I can make all the money I want to but in return I have to give back to those less fortunate for whatever reason.

Huh? First you say it should be temporary, then you say you are ok with permanent welfare. Ok with handouts to people who will never stop putting their hands out. That's not capitalistic, that's socialism, marxism, out right theft of my income to buy votes from a massive wave of welfare frauds. Half the frigging country is on welfare. This crap that you now say you are ok with will destroy this country in a blood bath of violence, I guarantee it. This income redistribution is not necessary welfare, it's effing income theft. Hard working Americans being insulted to fund swine. No different than pissing it away. It effing sucks to know that my money is going to people who never intend to get off welfare. They laugh at us, call us dumb asses. Did you not see Obama's aunt angrily telling us that we owe her a living? Did she say thank you? Oh hell no, ... Not even a by your leave, just hey this is the way it is.

I've paid millions in federal income taxes, not any more.. Screw it. You want a hand-up? Come to my place and work for it. No more hand outs from this citizen.

 

[Asclepias]

I don't understand how breaking up into 2-3 different nations is a good thing. There's no way in hell this will work in the long run.

The glue that makes a nation is its culture and common beliefs.

You dont break into 2 or 3 nations. You respect my ideas and I respect yours. There is this thing called concession that you need to understand. Its not about who wins and who loses. its about all parties involved winning. That seems to be some kind of mental block people have.

 

[Asclepias]

Who are you and where did you put Asclepias? You are preaching to the choir now!

You'll find most conservative libertarian types, such as myself, are not against hand-up systems where people get temporary help targeted to get people back on their feet. There are a great many hand-up programs that are managed by local community organizations. Unfortunately our current system federal system is not a hand-up system it is a hand-out system. Hand-up systems are better but need to be managed locally. A federal check mailed from 2k miles away... there's no mentoring with an anonymous check. The feds don't measure their welfare systems by success, they measure the systems by the amount of money they hand out. The most successful welfare system would be one in which no one needs it. The current system is not sustainable. The honor system is not working.

A great many people on welfare never get off. Never getting off is not temporary. The welfare reforms put in place under Clinton have been turned off by Obama. This trend is not acceptable.

It only looks like a hand out system until you get up close and personal. Without a doubt people abuse the system but you cant shut it down to spite those few. Some people simply will never get off and I am ok with that as I know that is what happens in a capitalistic society. I can make all the money I want to but in return I have to give back to those less fortunate for whatever reason.

Huh? First you say it should be temporary, then you say you are ok with permanent welfare. Ok with handouts to people who will never stop putting their hands out. That's not capitalistic, that's socialism, marxism.

It should be temporary for people capable of working. The system needs to be permanent because in this society as in any society there are going to be those totally dependent on the system and others out of work for various reasons.