Like it or not, America is becoming a post-white nation

[Asclepias]

Didn't realize you were saying you are a shitty engineer with a shitty company.

Good thing thats not what I said.

Maybe you could compare and contrast, then, your accusations about America's education system, racism in America, and other such accusations with your alleged success.

What specifically did you want to know?

 

[RoadVirus]

Given America’s boast that it is a land of immigrants, the ongoing demographic shift ought not to be a source of particular concern. Whites have arguably had their time in the sun. Now, it would seem, they must give way to the “new” races that are growing rapidly in both numbers and confidence.
It is not just Hispanics who are on the march, though they are certainly advancing in broad formation in just about every state in the nation. South Asians (mainly Indians) and Chinese have also multiplied and come forth, as have South Koreans, Arabs and Africans.

But the pattern is clear. The United States will be a different place in the middle of this century from the one that, say, went to war in 1942. Europe (itself, of course, transformed) is no longer central to Americans’ sense of heritage. The huddled masses have become truly global in their origins. The implications of this have been clear for some time but will soon stare us in the face. Not only is England no longer seen as the Mother Country; it is rarely these days even counted as part of the mix.

Like it or not, America is becoming a post-white nation ? Telegraph Blogs

With Whites gone, who will Blacks have to blame for their problems?

 

[Asclepias]

Given America’s boast that it is a land of immigrants, the ongoing demographic shift ought not to be a source of particular concern. Whites have arguably had their time in the sun. Now, it would seem, they must give way to the “new” races that are growing rapidly in both numbers and confidence.
It is not just Hispanics who are on the march, though they are certainly advancing in broad formation in just about every state in the nation. South Asians (mainly Indians) and Chinese have also multiplied and come forth, as have South Koreans, Arabs and Africans.

But the pattern is clear. The United States will be a different place in the middle of this century from the one that, say, went to war in 1942. Europe (itself, of course, transformed) is no longer central to Americans’ sense of heritage. The huddled masses have become truly global in their origins. The implications of this have been clear for some time but will soon stare us in the face. Not only is England no longer seen as the Mother Country; it is rarely these days even counted as part of the mix.

Like it or not, America is becoming a post-white nation ? Telegraph Blogs

With Whites gone, who will Blacks have to blame for their problems?

The same people they blamed before white people existed.

 

[RKMBrown]

Good thing thats not what I said.

Maybe you could compare and contrast, then, your accusations about America's education system, racism in America, and other such accusations with your alleged success.

What specifically did you want to know?

How did you rise above said racism and other supposedly uniquely American failings to become so successful?

 

[Asclepias]

Maybe you could compare and contrast, then, your accusations about America's education system, racism in America, and other such accusations with your alleged success.

What specifically did you want to know?

How did you rise above said racism and other supposedly uniquely American failings to become so successful?

Mentors and hard work.

 

[Skull Pilot]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

 

[RKMBrown]

What specifically did you want to know?

How did you rise above said racism and other supposedly uniquely American failings to become so successful?

Mentors and hard work.

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

 

[Asclepias]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

 

[Asclepias]

How did you rise above said racism and other supposedly uniquely American failings to become so successful?

Mentors and hard work.

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

The only thing school taught me besides how to read, write, and do math is to go make someone else wealthy after spending 4 more years in college figuring out in what field to do it in. It helps to have a foundation education but people really need to look at being producers/owners vs consumers/worker bees.

 

[bedowin62]

Mentors and hard work.

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

The only thing school taught me besides how to read, write, and do math is to go make someone else wealthy after spending 4 more years in college figuring out in what field to do it in. It helps to have a foundation education but people really need to look at being producers/owners vs consumers/worker bees.

OUT of all the boards here; how did i know you'd be found on this one?
you're pathetic

 

[Asclepias]

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

The only thing school taught me besides how to read, write, and do math is to go make someone else wealthy after spending 4 more years in college figuring out in what field to do it in. It helps to have a foundation education but people really need to look at being producers/owners vs consumers/worker bees.

OUT of all the boards here; how did i know you'd be found on this one?
you're pathetic

Why exactly were you stalking me? I'm the one thats pathetic!!?

 

[Skull Pilot]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

As far as I know none of those are specifically stated as requirements in the affirmative action laws and no one born in the last 50 years has experienced any of those things.

 

[RKMBrown]

Mentors and hard work.

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

The only thing school taught me besides how to read, write, and do math is to go make someone else wealthy after spending 4 more years in college figuring out in what field to do it in. It helps to have a foundation education but people really need to look at being producers/owners vs consumers/worker bees.

Ding ding ding!!!

How can you be so right on this matter... yet appear to deny your brothers the same thing by instead pushing for country wide policies where producers/owners are demonized and taxed to hell and back so that low paid and out of work worker bees can "get along" with welfare without having to work hard or learn more marketable skills? The solution for better schools is not more funding, it's harder work and better mentoring.

Why would you presumably deny the minimum wage worker the opportunity to better themselves by instead giving them more money in welfare than they can earn if they try harder? I'd think black community leaders such as yourself would do better for your community than pushing AA & welfare crutches.

Or are you really a conservative and are just trolling a bunch of white folk?

 

[Asclepias]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

As far as I know none of those are specifically stated as requirements in the affirmative action laws and no one born in the last 50 years has experienced any of those things.

No one claimed you knew very much of anything. The fact that you dont understand my post tells me you are a simple imbecile.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

Like white Jews? Get a grip. All of those things are long gone and likely had absolutely no influence on your existence.

 

[Samson]

Just thinking out loud, it's pretty obvious that America extended, significantly, the English Empire's era of dominance on the world stage. While I would tend to agree that there are differences between the races, culturally and biologically, I've never seen evidence of any superiority of one race over another. The issues regarding superiority of groups usually tend to follow the motives and efficiency, or the lack therein, of their culture. But more particularly, I see the separations as mere happenstance based on the differences for the points in time / initial state of the groups.

For example, our African brothers, just a few generations back were guest workers brought here as slaves. As such it was way to easy for the democrats to buy them with welfare. Eventually they will see welfare for what it is. When they start to see folks like Cosby as their leaders instead of local gang leaders,... well you get my drift.

The only thing constant is change.

While I wouldn't call "our African brothers...guest workers, brough here as slaves, nor would I agree that there are cultural differences between races: Take a white guy, and place him in the Congo for 50 years, and he "goes native." Similarly, take a Vietnamese kid, ship him to the USA, and 50 years later he's the leader of his community and business Tycoon. There are many examples.

The USA is the topic, but your mention of the British Empire is relevant in that the USA, and almost every British Colony succeeded on an unprecedented level above the colonies of every other European nation. This had nothing to do with race (Spaniards and French are White Europeans), but everything to do with culture, and more specifically, law and order. While we may see the USA's revolution against the "superiour" English Law and Order as being a poor example, with the notable exception of a monarchy, the US essentially adopted almost everything in the Consitution from the Magna Carta!

It stands to reason that if governments with the same racial profiles can FAIL on the basis of their consitutions, then governments under different racial profiles can succeed on the basis of their constitutions.

My point with cultural differences was not to say there are genetically mandated cultural differences, it was more to the obvious existence of current cultural differences between the preponderance of people of the various races. For example, a great many Spanish are catholic. These are mere facts. Each individual of each race, of course, may have a completely different cultural center.

Remember that America was ranked low in the world stage prior to WWII. It wasn't until Europe destroyed itself that America came to prominence.

Many folks call the Spaniards brown, this eluding to the fact that they are a mix. Just as mongolians are mix, and more to the point Americans are a mix as well. But don't tell the white or black supremacists.

"obvious existence of current cultural differences between the preponderance of people of the various races. For example, a great many Spanish are catholic. These are mere facts."



Race has nothing to do with being catholic.

 

[Asclepias]

Maybe mentors and hard work are better solutions than relying on government, no? I learned nothing in our public school system after they went libtard in the 70s.

FYI that's how most all successful people became successful. Bill Gates for example, told me the same thing you just said.

Never heard someone "successful" say that they got there as a direct result of some fantastic public education program.

That said the more recent return to skills training classes and/or college prep classes is the best thing going on right now in public education. Gives the HS grads a 2-year head start on real life vs repeating basics again and again.

The only thing school taught me besides how to read, write, and do math is to go make someone else wealthy after spending 4 more years in college figuring out in what field to do it in. It helps to have a foundation education but people really need to look at being producers/owners vs consumers/worker bees.

Ding ding ding!!!

How can you be so right on this matter... yet appear to deny your brothers the same thing by instead pushing for country wide policies where producers/owners are demonized and taxed to hell and back so that low paid and out of work worker bees can "get along" with welfare without having to work hard or learn more marketable skills? The solution for better schools is not more funding, it's harder work and better mentoring.

Why would you presumably deny the minimum wage worker the opportunity to better themselves by instead giving them more money in welfare than they can earn if they try harder? I'd think black community leaders such as yourself would do better for your community than pushing AA & welfare crutches.

Or are you really a conservative and are just trolling a bunch of white folk?

I dont deny my brothers anything. I preach this to everyone I establish a relationship with by giving back what was taught to me. The problem is that it takes time to tear down then build somebody back up to the right way of thinking. Who is going to provide the safety net until that happens? i dont know what you would call me and no i am not trolling white people. Some of them just say some stupid uninformed shit that makes me laugh.

 

[Asclepias]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

Like white Jews? Get a grip. All of those things are long gone and likely had absolutely no influence on your existence.

No like Black people, NA's, Latinos, and women. The fact you dont understand how these things impacted AA and minorities tells me you would be better served working at McDonalds where I hear they have pictures on the cash register.

 

[emilynghiem]

Dear Guno: I can show you a couple of examples where you show a "less than inclusive equal" view of people, but are in fact projecting a bias against a group outside yourself.

1. "Whites have arguably had their time in the sun. Now, it would seem, they must give way to the “new” races that are growing rapidly in both numbers and confidence."

This statement clearly DIVIDES "Whites" from "other groups / new races"
instead of addressing people of all cultures as equals.

Whatever distinction you were trying to make, dividing it by "Whites" vs. "other races"
already shows exclusion by external grouping as a "generalization" where you imply something "negative" about one instead of respecting all their contributions equally
as having a lasting influence and impact in society.

This bias may be why you come across as "hateful" or "rejecting/reactionary" to others.

2. Your signature line, citing Sinclair Lewis equating fascism with carrying the Cross?

OMG! How is that NOT playing into the stereotype that inclusion and diversity means "going against White Christians". This line, and your own words seeing the Whites as something that needs to accept being REPLACED?

3. My bias is different from yours and stands out in contrast:

I believe that both Constitutionalism (which came from natural laws passed down from White European tradition) and Christianity provide America structure that ALLOWS for free exercise, inclusion and protection of diversity.

This foundation of America does not need to be REPLACED but EXPANDED where all people are able to enjoy equal access, education and experience in the laws for self-government.

So I see the process as being ADDITIVE, not divide and conquer, remove and replace.

The bias you have seems to set up "people who value the European traditions" as a "mutual threat" that is competing or in conflict.

So if you come across as negative, I am guessing it is because you do NOT see this other "White" cultural tradition as equal in value, but see these as competing in conflict.

If the point is equal inclusion and valuing the diversity and contributions of all cultures,
shouldn't we INCLUDE the best strengths from our European roots in Constitutional and Christian laws along with all the other contributions from other people and cultures.

Funny. I've never thought of the U.S. as a "white" nation. I've always seen it as a diverse and interesting country.


I guess folks like you, guano, need to broaden the way you think...

Nope born an raised in NYC in a multiracial multicultural Environment, have an interracial family, have traveled the world on business from South america to Asia and Europe and Africa. The ones who are going to have a hard time are certain groups who accuse me of hate when I post articles about the demographic shift . which are facts. If they have facts to prove otherwise they are free to post them, but I have seen is a major freak-out when it is brought up. This is something that should be discussed as the changes are happening with or without them.

Why the mentality of "them vs us", why isn't it framed as changes WE are going through.
Do you see the difference in bias? One is inclusive, addressing all people as equally members. The other is saying "they" are outside the process and not equally critical to it?

 

[emilynghiem]

So when I as a white guy am a minority can I get special treatment under the law like minorities do now?

No. Not unless you are prepared to go through 400 years of slavery, jim crow, genecide ect.

No, you don't have to go through all that.

Just to resolve the political conflicts we have now, with pro and anti-gay views NOT treated equally, with prochoice and prolife views NOT treated equally, with free market and govt health care belifs NOT treated equally under law,

there is PLENTY of discrimination by class and creed going on right now. I've been feeling like a slave abused for free labor and my money I worked two jobs to earn, and the current issues do not help but just add to the burden. I can only imagine what slaves in China feel like that can't be compared.

If you can survive this mess, and seek solutions that resolve political disparity, that will also solve similar problems with blaming and excluding the poor as a class the way the rich as a class are currently being blamed and targeted for taxation without equal representation.

Be careful what you ask for, it might already be happening!

The point is to finish the process, fix the problems and not let them repeat.