Lifestyle-Marriage Equality Slugout: State Authority vs Federal?

[danielpalos]

did you miss it?

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

What does that have to do with the topic of legal marriage for same gender couples?

are you sure you have a clue or a Cause as to the underlying issues?

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

I don't have to troll simply because I have a clue and a Cause.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

 

[danielpalos]

Drop the act Syriusly. Danielpalos is your new thread spamming/disappearing partner. It's obvious.

Minors are Individuals in the custody of their Parent and Adults.

If that were true, family law courts wouldn't exist. The truth is that society has many many laws and statutes governing the wellbeing of children from birth until the day they are emancipated. Their formative years receive the highest legal priority of stewardship.

Natural rights and what the courts determine, may be two different Things, in any given alternative.

 

[Syriusly]

What does that have to do with the topic of legal marriage for same gender couples?

are you sure you have a clue or a Cause as to the underlying issues?

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

I don't have to troll simply because I have a clue and a Cause.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

 

[danielpalos]

are you sure you have a clue or a Cause as to the underlying issues?

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

I don't have to troll simply because I have a clue and a Cause.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

You really do just need a better clue and a better Cause for me to take you more seriously than all of the other ones.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

Thank you for ceding the argument and the point you couldn't seem to come up with.

 

[Silhouette]

Formula....

1. Spam the CQR information and the Prince's Trust off a page you don't want the general public to read

2. Start an artificial flame war.

3. Petition moderators to have the "hate filled thread" shut down.

Did I get that right? Syriusly is the queen of spamming. Skylar pulls a close second. Daniel, Conservative, St. Mike and others fit the "I hate gays flame war" role. It's all so perfect!

Except that I'd ban all of you for doing it if you were up to it on a website I owned..It's highly disruptive and is costing viewers at this site. Nobody wants to see spamming and flame wars that are off topic on the popular topics they like to read about. They'll move onto another website.

Page 8 (the left side on the green background) http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/Youth_Index_jan2011.pdf

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

The Daily Mail article from the Prince's Trust study... Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

As to Skylar's "rebutting studies"... Consensual Qualitative Research A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena
Skylar...about those APA-approved studies...you always forget to remind the general public about the new way the APA "encourages" it's affiliates and funded "researchers" to do "science"...

"Consensual Qualitative Research: A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena...consensual qualitative research (CQR). CQR is an 1 inductive method that is characterized by 2 open-ended interview questions, 3 small samples, a 4 reliance on words over numbers, the importance of context, an integration of multiple viewpoints, and consensus of the research team

The Prince's Trust survey, the largest of its kind, self-reported from kids no longer in the home (if you care about such things as size of surveys or numbers over words), wasn't funded or affiliated with the APA and any of its many tentacles in "the medical/science world"..

 

[danielpalos]

Formula....

1. Spam the CQR information and the Prince's Trust off a page you don't want the general public to read

2. Start an artificial flame war.

3. Petition moderators to have the "hate filled thread" shut down.

Did I get that right? Syriusly is the queen of spamming. Skylar pulls a close second. Daniel, Conservative, St. Mike and others fit the "I hate gays flame war" role. It's all so perfect!

Except that I'd ban all of you for doing it if you were up to it on a website I owned..It's highly disruptive and is costing viewers at this site. Nobody wants to see spamming and flame wars that are off topic on the popular topics they like to read about. They'll move onto another website.

Page 8 (the left side on the green background) http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/Youth_Index_jan2011.pdf

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

The Daily Mail article from the Prince's Trust study... Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

As to Skylar's "rebutting studies"... Consensual Qualitative Research A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena
Skylar...about those APA-approved studies...you always forget to remind the general public about the new way the APA "encourages" it's affiliates and funded "researchers" to do "science"...

"Consensual Qualitative Research: A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena...consensual qualitative research (CQR). CQR is an 1 inductive method that is characterized by 2 open-ended interview questions, 3 small samples, a 4 reliance on words over numbers, the importance of context, an integration of multiple viewpoints, and consensus of the research team

The Prince's Trust survey, the largest of its kind, self-reported from kids no longer in the home (if you care about such things as size of surveys or numbers over words), wasn't funded or affiliated with the APA and any of its many tentacles in "the medical/science world"..

Public policy constitutes public use, so the right needs to become more cognitively sonant, and stop complaining about pounds of social spending cure, if they want some on the left, to take them more seriously, than all of the other ones.

In any Case, public policy runs out of authority, if it can be shown to be repugnant to our own laws, which must be more supreme, than any Thing our elected representatives assembled, can come up with.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"State Authority vs Federal?"


Neither.

Get government out of our personal lives.

 

[Silhouette]

Public policy constitutes public use, so the right needs to become more cognitively sonant, and stop complaining about pounds of social spending cure, if they want some on the left, to take them more seriously, than all of the other ones.

In any Case, public policy runs out of authority, if it can be shown to be repugnant to our own laws, which must be more supreme, than any Thing our elected representatives assembled, can come up with.

Trying out the obfuscation hat are we?...when spamming and flame wars fail you?

 

[danielpalos]

Public policy constitutes public use, so the right needs to become more cognitively sonant, and stop complaining about pounds of social spending cure, if they want some on the left, to take them more seriously, than all of the other ones.

In any Case, public policy runs out of authority, if it can be shown to be repugnant to our own laws, which must be more supreme, than any Thing our elected representatives assembled, can come up with.

Trying out the obfuscation hat are we?...when spamming and flame wars fail you?

nothing but diversion; i got it. i knew i shouldn't take you any more seriously than all of the other ones.

 

[Syriusly]

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

I don't have to troll simply because I have a clue and a Cause.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

You really do just need a better clue and a better Cause for me to take you more seriously than all of the other ones.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

Thank you for ceding the argument and the point you couldn't seem to come up with.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

 

[Syriusly]

Formula....

1. Spam the CQR information and the Prince's Trust off a page you don't want the general public to read

2. Start an artificial flame war.

3. Petition moderators to have the "hate filled thread" shut down.

Did I get that right? Syriusly is the queen of spamming. Skylar pulls a close second. Daniel, Conservative, St. Mike and others fit the "I hate gays flame war" role. It's all so perfect!

Except that I'd ban all of you for doing it if you were up to it on a website I owned..It's highly disruptive and is costing viewers at this site. Nobody wants to see spamming and flame wars that are off topic on the popular topics they like to read about. They'll move onto another website.

Page 8 (the left side on the green background) http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/Youth_Index_jan2011.pdf

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

The Daily Mail article from the Prince's Trust study... Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

As to Skylar's "rebutting studies"... Consensual Qualitative Research A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena
Skylar...about those APA-approved studies...you always forget to remind the general public about the new way the APA "encourages" it's affiliates and funded "researchers" to do "science"...

"Consensual Qualitative Research: A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena...consensual qualitative research (CQR). CQR is an 1 inductive method that is characterized by 2 open-ended interview questions, 3 small samples, a 4 reliance on words over numbers, the importance of context, an integration of multiple viewpoints, and consensus of the research team

The Prince's Trust survey, the largest of its kind, self-reported from kids no longer in the home (if you care about such things as size of surveys or numbers over words), wasn't funded or affiliated with the APA and any of its many tentacles in "the medical/science world"..

Public policy constitutes public use, so the right needs to become more cognitively sonant, and stop complaining about pounds of social spending cure, if they want some on the left, to take them more seriously, than all of the other ones.

In any Case, public policy runs out of authority, if it can be shown to be repugnant to our own laws, which must be more supreme, than any Thing our elected representatives assembled, can come up with.

Wow.....you obviously think that post is supposed to make sense.

 

[Syriusly]

Formula....

1. Spam the CQR information and the Prince's Trust off a page you don't want the general public to read

2. Start an artificial flame war.

3. Petition moderators to have the "hate filled thread" shut down.

Did I get that right? Syriusly is the queen of spamming. Skylar pulls a close second. Daniel, Conservative, St. Mike and others fit the "I hate gays flame war" role. It's all so perfect!..

You are delusional.

 

[Skylar]

did you miss it?
There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

And what of ignorance of the voice of children (who cannot vote to affect their future) in the marriage discussion. Did you miss that?

FROM THE PRINCE'S TRUST STUDY: http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/Youth_Index_jan2011.pdf
Page 8 (the left side on the green background)

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

The Prince Trust Study never even mentions same sex parenting, let alone measures the effects of any type of parenting. There are over a dozen studies that directly address the effects of same sex parenting on children. And they have found that these children are as healthy and well adjusted as those raised by hetero parents.

You ignore every such study. No court ever would.

Worse, the court has already found that children of same sex parents are damaged by their parents not being married:

And it humiliates tens of thousands of children now being raised by same-sex couples. The law in question makes it even more difficult for the children to understand the integrity and closeness of their own family and its concord with other families in their community and in their daily lives....

....DOMA also brings financial harm to children of same-sex couples. It raises the cost of health care for families by taxing health benefits provided by employers to their workers’ same-sex spouses And it denies or reduces benefits allowed to families upon the loss of a spouse and parent, benefits that are an integral part of family security.

Windsor V. US

You can ignore the harm to children that the courts have clearly recognized in the denial of same sex marriage. But you can't make the court ignore them.

Natural rights trump the collectivism of social studies, for the citizens in the several States. We have a First Amendment that secures freedom of association.

...which would relate to the issues we're discussing how exactly?

And be as specific as you're able.

 

[Skylar]

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

I don't have to troll simply because I have a clue and a Cause.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws.

If you do not want to be understood- then you are trolling.

If you want to be understood you need to make an effort to explain your concepts.

If you don't- you are just trolling.

Nothing but diversion; I got it.

You really do just need a better clue and a better Cause for me to take you more seriously than all of the other ones.

There is no Appeal to Ignorance of the law as enumerated in Article 4, Section 2 upon appeal to the general government and that Body of laws. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

Thank you for ceding the argument and the point you couldn't seem to come up with.

And what relevance does Article 4, Section 2 have with gay marriage?

I've asked you think question before, and you've never had an answer. I agree with Sy....you're trolling.

 

[Silhouette]

And what relevance does Article 4, Section 2 have with gay marriage? I've asked you think question before, and you've never had an answer. I agree with Sy....you're trolling.

Ooooh...better tell the mods then and shut the thread down so people won't read this...


Page 8 (the left side on the green background) http://www.princes-trust.org.uk/pdf/Youth_Index_jan2011.pdf

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

The Daily Mail article from the Prince's Trust study... Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

As to Skylar's "rebutting studies"... Consensual Qualitative Research A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena
Skylar...about those APA-approved studies...you always forget to remind the general public about the new way the APA "encourages" it's affiliates and funded "researchers" to do "science"...

"Consensual Qualitative Research: A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena...consensual qualitative research (CQR). CQR is an 1 inductive method that is characterized by 2 open-ended interview questions, 3 small samples, a 4 reliance on words over numbers, the importance of context, an integration of multiple viewpoints, and consensus of the research team

The Prince's Trust survey, the largest of its kind, self-reported from kids no longer in the home (if you care about such things as size of surveys or numbers over words), wasn't funded or affiliated with the APA and any of its many tentacles in "the medical/science world"..

*waits for four or five posts from Syriusly and Skylar alternately saying one-liners like "you're delusional" or "you think that makes sense?" or "what relevence does that have?" *

 

[Skylar]

Did I get that right? Syriusly is the queen of spamming. Skylar pulls a close second.

You've posted the Prince Trust Study 17 times in this thread alone. I've posted the studies that rebut it 4 times. 2 of those 4 because you lied and insisted I never offer any links or evidence.

So if posting the studies that affirm that children of same sex parents are fine 4 times constitutes 'spamming', what does posting the Prince Trust Study 17 times translate into? Especially when the Prince Trust study doesn't even mention same sex parents.

And can I take it from your shift from the topic of the threads to attacks on us personally, that your claims aren't working out so well?

In addition to indexing the happiness and wellbeing of young people, the report explores some significant demographic differences between young people. They include a comparison between those not in education employment or training with their peers...those without a positive role model of their gender in their lives (women without a positive female role model and men without a positive male role model) and their peers...those with fewer than five GCSEs graded A* to C (or equivalent) with their peers... Respondents are asked how happy and confident they are in different areas of their life. The responses are converted to a numerical scale, resulting in a number out of 100-- with 100 representing entirely happy or confident and zero being not at all happy or confident.

Page 10 (The bold largest heading above the material that followed it)

Young people without a role model of the same gender in their lives

The Daily Mail article from the Prince's Trust study... Teens without parent role model are 67 per cent less likely to get a job Daily Mail Online

Young men with no male role models in their lives and women without a mother figure struggle to keep their lives on track, a hard-hitting report warns today. The Prince’s Trust youth index, the largest survey of its kind, found that....67 per cent more likely to be unemployed than their counterparts. They are also significantly more likely to stay unemployed for longer than their peers, the report suggests....It found that young men with no male role model are 50 per cent more likely to abuse drugs and young females in the corresponding position are significantly more likely to drink to excess..

Young men with no male role model to look up to were twice as likely to turn or consider turning to crime as a result of being unemployed...The report, which was based on interviews with 2,170 16 to 25-year-olds...These young men are also three times more likely to feel down or depressed all of the time and significantly more likely to admit that they cannot remember the last time they felt proud...They are also significantly less likely to feel happy and confident than those with male role models, according to the figures....The Prince’s Trust report, which was carried out by YouGov, suggests young people without male role models are more than twice as likely to lack a sense of belonging.

The Prince Trust Study never once mentions same sex parenting. Or measures the effects of any kind of parenting. You've never been able to show us a single study that shows any negative effects from having same sex parents. While I've presented over a dozen that show no harm to kids.

As to Skylar's "rebutting studies"... Consensual Qualitative Research A Practical Resource for Investigating Social Science Phenomena

Skylar...about those APA-approved studies...you always forget to remind the general public about the new way the APA "encourages" it's affiliates and funded "researchers" to do "science"...

And who says that the University of Melbourne, the University of Southern California and the American Association of Marriage and Family therapists are funded by the APA? For crying out loud, the University of Melbourne isn't even in the US. But Australia. And you ignore it just the same.

You're just making up random conspiracies as an excuse to ignore any study that contradicts you. From any source. Using any methodology. Any sample size. In any country.

But why would a rational person ignore what you do?

None. You know what's coming, Silo. So does Scalia. And so do we.

 

[Syriusly]

And what relevance does Article 4, Section 2 have with gay marriage? I've asked you think question before, and you've never had an answer. I agree with Sy....you're trolling.

Ooooh...better tell the mods then and shut the thread down so people won't read this...
.

You are delusional.

 

[Skylar]

The Prince's Trust survey, the largest of its kind, self-reported from kids no longer in the home (if you care about such things as size of surveys or numbers over words), wasn't funded or affiliated with the APA and any of its many tentacles in "the medical/science world"..

Correction: You've spammed the Prince Trust Study 18 times in this thread. And it still never even mentions same sex parents, let alone measures the effects of same sex parenting.

You can't get around that.

Nor will the courts ignore the APA or any of the more than dozens studies that have found that same sex parenting causes no harm to children.

So what else have you got?

 

[Silhouette]

Almost there, one more to go and the page will be gone. I'd ban you. I really would. You are costing this site viewers..

 

[Skylar]

And what relevance does Article 4, Section 2 have with gay marriage? I've asked you think question before, and you've never had an answer. I agree with Sy....you're trolling.

Ooooh...better tell the mods then and shut the thread down so people won't read this...
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You are delusional.

I think the opinion of Scalia on what Windsor means really spooked him. As his arguments have degenerated from at least an attempt to discuss the topic of the thread to spamming the same irrelevant study over and over......while making up increasingly bizarre conspiracy theories.

My favorite.....that the University of Melbourne is 'funded by the APA'. Somehow.