Libertarians Are The True Political Moderates

[eagle1462010]

Actually, we like to call it "The United States of America"

Actually, we like to call it The Welfare/Warfare State within "The United States of America".


What is the meaning:Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free ....not to eat for free.

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You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

When they are able to work and refuse to do so...................Yep.........

United Socialist States of America

 

[eagle1462010]

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Maimonides


Read more at Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. - Maimonides at BrainyQuote

 

[Contumacious]

Actually, we like to call it "The United States of America"

Actually, we like to call it The Welfare/Warfare State within "The United States of America".


What is the meaning:Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free ....not to eat for free.

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You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

I believe that they have a right to be free, to search for freedom - which is no the same as let's go over to the US and enslave the taxpayers - to put us in a position similar to the one they left in their native countries.

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[dblack]

Actually, we like to call it "The United States of America"

Actually, we like to call it The Welfare/Warfare State within "The United States of America".


What is the meaning:Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free ....not to eat for free.

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You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

I do. I just don't believe we need to get the police involved.

 

[RKMBrown]

Actually, we like to call it "The United States of America"

Actually, we like to call it The Welfare/Warfare State within "The United States of America".


What is the meaning:Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free ....not to eat for free.

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You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

Her mommy needs to get off her ass and fix her life.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually, we like to call it The Welfare/Warfare State within "The United States of America".


What is the meaning:Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free ....not to eat for free.

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You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

Her mommy needs to get off her ass and fix her life.

Hell yea.......the wealthy need more tax cuts

Safety nets are for pussies

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Conversing or debating with a troll like RWer is a complete waste of time.

 

[dblack]

Conversing or debating with a troll like RWer is a complete waste of time.

He can sometimes carry on reasoned discussion, but usually its just games like this - smearing with obvious platitudes and bigotry.

 

[RKMBrown]

You don't believe in feeding the huddled masses?

Her mommy needs to get off her ass and fix her life.

Hell yea.......the wealthy need more tax cuts

Safety nets are for pussies

ROFL 50million americans on food stamps... That's not a safety net. That's marxism.

 

[thanatos144]

You mean a big pussy like a socon who runs to government because they are too butt lazy to convince people to lead a moral life so they run to government to use guns to force people behave morally with their own bodies?

More like big pussy to afraid others might not approve.... Fuck that I am a conservative. I am also a Christian that doesn't like Baby murder. To much for you? I dont fucking care.

The liberals and the socons are the same animal. Both in love with government, both want government to do your work for you, both want your will imposed on everyone with force.

And you argue the same. Oh, you're not for government using force to decide what people can do with their own bodies? That mans you're in favor of drugs!

Does this sound familiar? Oh, so you're against government confiscating money earned by one person by force and and distributed to someone who didn't' earn it? That means you're against charity!

No, I'm against government using force to make it's citizens choices for them. I'm consistently moderate that way.

Don't tell me what I want asshole! No where did I say big government in my post! Take your lies and shove them up your hypocritical ass. Conservatives are not the ones demanding federal government get involved in drugs and demanding MORE taxes to pay for it....No that would be you lying little libertarian fucks.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

More like big pussy to afraid others might not approve.... Fuck that I am a conservative. I am also a Christian that doesn't like Baby murder. To much for you? I dont fucking care.

The liberals and the socons are the same animal. Both in love with government, both want government to do your work for you, both want your will imposed on everyone with force.

And you argue the same. Oh, you're not for government using force to decide what people can do with their own bodies? That mans you're in favor of drugs!

Does this sound familiar? Oh, so you're against government confiscating money earned by one person by force and and distributed to someone who didn't' earn it? That means you're against charity!

No, I'm against government using force to make it's citizens choices for them. I'm consistently moderate that way.

Don't tell me what I want asshole! No where did I say big government in my post! Take your lies and shove them up your hypocritical ass. Conservatives are not the ones demanding federal government get involved in drugs and demanding MORE taxes to pay for it....No that would be you lying little libertarian fucks.

 

[kaz]

We see right through you anti government types.

'You Can't Govern if You Don't Believe in Government'

I realize you don't do things like read posts before you respond to them, including the OP. But here's the interesting thing in this thread. I specifically said in my OP post that I am referring to small government libertarians and not anarchists.

Wow, are you an idiot or what?

Stop projecting

Small Gov't? Whose definition? , I want EFFECTIVE Gov't, something you klowns don't actually want. You can't point to ONE state/nation to EVER use your myths and fairy tales effectively!

Well dim wit, since I AM the OP and I defined who I was talking about in my first post to start the thread, according to ... wait for it ... me. Jesus Christ, every time i think you can't get any more stupid...

 

[kaz]

No, you probably are though. I'm assuming you are a broke ass or at best middle class American so one of three things are true.

1. You are rich and so you don't care that your policies would produce a small rich class, a small merchantile class and a huge population of working poor.

2. Maybe you are in the merchant class and don't care about the masses.

3. You are one of us and a fool who doesn't realize you would die broke in this system.

And you know that you are right and the field of economics is wrong exactly? Is it the typical liberal answer that lawyers told you?

What field of economics agrees with you libertard nuts?

All of it, economics says that free markets are the optimal system. Everything the Liberals say about economics is wrong. Literally every position.

No one likes Libertarians

You don't like me? I'm going to cry.



Sorry man, I tried, I really did.

nor do we want them running this country.


Let me ask you, how come the tea baggers are able to get elected all across the country but all you guys have is a cult lunatic following that gets Ron Paul less than 1% of the vote?

If you guys are right, start running for local and state government then for national government and start winning over hearts and minds.

Let me tell you something. Thom Hartmann has Libertarians on a lot and they discuss what they agree on and what they disagree on. You guys can call us socialists all you want. No one likes your political philosophy. At least not enough to win you any elections. So go fuck yourselves.

I explain that one in my sig.

George Bernard Shaw: Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it

 

[kaz]

I realize you don't do things like read posts before you respond to them, including the OP. But here's the interesting thing in this thread. I specifically said in my OP post that I am referring to small government libertarians and not anarchists.

Wow, are you an idiot or what?

Stop projecting

Small Gov't? Whose definition? , I want EFFECTIVE Gov't, something you klowns don't actually want. You can't point to ONE state/nation to EVER use your myths and fairy tales effectively!

Exactly. We know exactly what their policies will produce. Small rich and merchantile classes and a huge working poor class formerly called serfs or peasants.

Actually, that's what your corporatist and Marxist policies are producing. Free markets make everyone richer who is willing to work for it.

 

[kaz]

It is ineffective because the rich have taken over our government. Our politicians don't give a fuck about We the People anymore. They work for the corporations and lobbyists.

And this ... is where you identify yourself as a liar. You want more government that is controlled by the rich. The rich control it, and you want to give them more power. That is what you are telling us. LOL, what a boob. You're not even a good liar.

People in other countries laugh at you dumb fucking Americans

As for the red, it's a great thing about being an international leftist, isn't it? We're both us and you depending on what you want at the moment. You are of course a citizen of the world.

 

[kaz]

Stop projecting

Small Gov't? Whose definition? , I want EFFECTIVE Gov't, something you klowns don't actually want. You can't point to ONE state/nation to EVER use your myths and fairy tales effectively!

"Effective Government"is an oxymoron.

There is no such thing.

No, we could have an effective government if we would just take it back but we can't because the rich have divided us. They got half of us (you) thinking you belong to the republican party. Sorry pal but you aren't rich enough to be in the GOP. But because of racism, god gays and guns they got you voting with them and against yourself. Schmuck.

'You Can't Govern if You Don't Believe in Government'

Of course, anyone who disagrees with you is a racist.

Look man, if you want to wear a blue dress on Saturday nights and dream you're going down on the black guy, I don't really care.



But maybe you could take that to a chat room instead of a political message board.

 

[kaz]

are you an idiot or what?

Stop projecting

Small Gov't? Whose definition? , I want EFFECTIVE Gov't, something you klowns don't actually want. You can't point to ONE state/nation to EVER use your myths and fairy tales effectively!

Effective at what? What do you think government is for? That's the real question. For what it's worth I agree: government should be big enough to effectively perform its legitimate functions.

I'm not surprised you skipped this question. It's probably hard for you not to say EVERYTHING!! Let me make it easier for you. Is there ANYTHING you think government should not do?

He answered the question, he went with "idiot," not "what"...

 

[kaz]

Libertarians want government limited to those functions which only government can do. .

Libertarians will get a little attention in 2016 when we find out they get about 1% of the GOP vote and the GOP will appease the lunatics enough that they'll show up and vote for the "lesser of two evils". That's what Ron Paul does. He rallies the base. The Libertarian party is the evil yet retarded step brother of the republicans.

I personally don't find that you're not smart enough to grasp free markets, man enough to support yourself or generous enough to give your own money to charity persuasive in any way that I need to dumb down my views and join the ignorant masses that are so manipulated by liberal lawyers.

 

[kaz]

More like big pussy to afraid others might not approve.... Fuck that I am a conservative. I am also a Christian that doesn't like Baby murder. To much for you? I dont fucking care.

The liberals and the socons are the same animal. Both in love with government, both want government to do your work for you, both want your will imposed on everyone with force.

And you argue the same. Oh, you're not for government using force to decide what people can do with their own bodies? That mans you're in favor of drugs!

Does this sound familiar? Oh, so you're against government confiscating money earned by one person by force and and distributed to someone who didn't' earn it? That means you're against charity!

No, I'm against government using force to make it's citizens choices for them. I'm consistently moderate that way.

Don't tell me what I want asshole! No where did I say big government in my post! Take your lies and shove them up your hypocritical ass. Conservatives are not the ones demanding federal government get involved in drugs and demanding MORE taxes to pay for it....No that would be you lying little libertarian fucks.

Libertarians are demanding more taxes to pay for drugs? You're beyond brainwashed, you're just stupid. And you're stoned off your ass, aren't you? With your cocaine habit, it's no wonder you're so obsessed with drug laws.

 

[kaz]

The liberals and the socons are the same animal. Both in love with government, both want government to do your work for you, both want your will imposed on everyone with force.

And you argue the same. Oh, you're not for government using force to decide what people can do with their own bodies? That mans you're in favor of drugs!

Does this sound familiar? Oh, so you're against government confiscating money earned by one person by force and and distributed to someone who didn't' earn it? That means you're against charity!

No, I'm against government using force to make it's citizens choices for them. I'm consistently moderate that way.

Don't tell me what I want asshole! No where did I say big government in my post! Take your lies and shove them up your hypocritical ass. Conservatives are not the ones demanding federal government get involved in drugs and demanding MORE taxes to pay for it....No that would be you lying little libertarian fucks.

Seriously, WTF?