Liberals silent on latest and greatest humiliation

[daws101]

Obama admits mistakes in Libya, says West should have done more

The rapid descent of Libya into violent chaos was one of the most dramatic events in the "Arab Spring," the abrupt collapse of long-standing autocratic governments in a number of Arab countries in the face of popular protests.

"Even as we helped the Libyan people bring an end to the reign of a tyrant, our coalition could have and should have done more to fill a vacuum left behind," Obama said.

His rare acknowledgement of mistakes in Libya's transition came as the United Nations tries to negotiate an end to fighting between two rival governments and their armed backers which has pushed the country to the brink of collapse.

The U.N. General Assembly on Monday was dominated by discussion of the turmoil in Syria, which erupted after an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Russia have traded accusations about responsibility for the violence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed the chaos in the region, including in Libya, on the sudden removal of the old leaders, and said this was creating many recruits for the Islamic State militant group.

"It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa led to emergence of anarchy areas. Those immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists," Putin told the assembly.

POOR OBAMA.... he will live to rule the day, he allows constantly the right wing to dictate his thoughts on how the east should be handled. This is the one and only thing I absolutely despise about Obama, listening to these war mongering profit driven conservative cowards who fight no wars unless its on a campaign trail.

That's rue.

 

[Rocko]

The conservatives want war with Russia because they think war helps the GOP politically.

Put another way, they want war with Russia because they think it will help them repeal Obamacare.

According to the left America has no enemies. Well in the real world we do and none bigger than Russia.

We'd have far fewer enemies if we stopped meddling.

Your idiotic brand of isolationism and pacifism would be the end of us. It's a good thing people like you don't matter.

 

[paulitician]

Obama admits mistakes in Libya, says West should have done more

The rapid descent of Libya into violent chaos was one of the most dramatic events in the "Arab Spring," the abrupt collapse of long-standing autocratic governments in a number of Arab countries in the face of popular protests.

"Even as we helped the Libyan people bring an end to the reign of a tyrant, our coalition could have and should have done more to fill a vacuum left behind," Obama said.

His rare acknowledgement of mistakes in Libya's transition came as the United Nations tries to negotiate an end to fighting between two rival governments and their armed backers which has pushed the country to the brink of collapse.

The U.N. General Assembly on Monday was dominated by discussion of the turmoil in Syria, which erupted after an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Russia have traded accusations about responsibility for the violence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed the chaos in the region, including in Libya, on the sudden removal of the old leaders, and said this was creating many recruits for the Islamic State militant group.

"It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa led to emergence of anarchy areas. Those immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists," Putin told the assembly.

POOR OBAMA.... he will live to rule the day, he allows constantly the right wing to dictate his thoughts on how the east should be handled. This is the one and only thing I absolutely despise about Obama, listening to these war mongering profit driven conservative cowards who fight no wars unless its on a campaign trail.

The wars in the Middle East have been planned for years. Obama isn't calling the shots. Now they want Assad dead. So they create ISIS. A 'necessary' evil.

Russia and Iran are now forced to clean up our awful mess there. We should all be ashamed of what our Government is doing in the Middle East.

 

[tigerred59]

(sigh), I get so so sick and tired of HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF HERE....Do we ever ever ever learn anything???? That nightmare with the Shah of Iran ions ago, should have been the template for leaving these fuckin people alone and let them run their own fuckin politics!!

None of these terroristic breaches would have ever taken place, had we kept our nose out of Israel and middle eastern politics.

It is not our meddling that causes them to attack us. It is our freedom and defiance of their asinine Muslim faith. Meddling may help them recruit but it is not their motive.

The day the US sanctioned the holy land to the jews after WWII was the day we laid the foundation for future conflict with the middle east. We allowed Israel to literly take over a country that at first welcomed these people and by funding them militarily and promising to back their shit up no matter what is why the muslim world hate us. Has nothing to do with our fuckin freedom.....we've had freedom for how long? Since 1776 and I don't know about you, but I can't recall not one muslim issue in the history books I was taught in.

Bottom line is this, building nations should be a video game, not US policy!!

We didn't start the Israel affair, it was Britain and France in WWI. The Muslim world invited the Jews before then, to get their money and improve their technology, Specifically in Farming which the Jews excelled at.

Most of these countries didn't exist then, and only became countries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire who fought with Germany in WWI and lost. These are the same asshats that performed Genocide in the deserts of Syria killing well over a million Armenians...................

After WWII, the world gave a safe haven to the Jews after they had been slaughtered. The Arabs were all to happy to join Hitler in the Genocide of Jews..........THEY LOST THE WAR..............Britain abstained on the vote for Israel, even though they were the very ones to initiate it................aka we didn't start it as you are of the blame America first crowd.

Before we ever stepped foot on their holier than thou sand, they had caliphate after Caliphate................since the 6th Century and the time of Mohamed, this has occurred.................Throughout history, they have invaded other lands in the name of their religion and throughout history the rest of the world finally had to fight them as they said convert or die...............

Obama is a complete IDIOT. He just admitted he screwed up in Libya.........He sent arms from Libya to the SO CALLED GOOD GUYS IN SYRIA who handed over the weapons to ISIS, or turned themselves...............In Egypt, he was a complete fool.............Demanding that the Radical Muslim Brotherhood be part of the system........Who advocate the radical element of the region.........................

Obama wants Assad gone..........but they are the only element that could hold the area if and when ISIS is defeated...............Stupid policy, and he has armed the opposition there..................

Anyway...............they have hated our asses for a while..........because we are infidels.................so be it MR. DP.........computer nerd man.............You were the type we liked to turn the hot water off on in the Navy for being whiney little bitches......

LOL

Okay, and thanks for the lesson...I still however stand by my assessment of why the middle hate this country...now with that being said, you made a valid point.......when the US puts its dirty little hands in matters that does not involve us, BAD SHIT HAPPENS FOR EVERYBODY!! OBAMA IS A IDIOT, THIS SO CALLED REVOLUTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE OF ANY US INVOLVEMENT......WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF NATION BUILDING...END OF EFFIN STORY!!

Never said I wanted to Nation build. Didn't from the onset....................My point after 9/11 was to get in, kill as many as possible, and than leave..............

Once the mission was on in Iraq....................then we have an obligation to stay the course even though the course is a shit sandwich............We withdrew early, without at least giving them the intel element to ensure that they didn't get over run by the group committing Genocide there now and in Syria...................

Obama's policy to do so..........So the IDIOT owns this........................

You mentioned the Shah..................We should have kicked their asses then.........................when they held our people for 444 days....................Taking our embassy was an act of War.....................and had we treated it as such from the beginning...............we might not have to deal with Iran who is a major sponsor of terror.......................

North Korea exists today...........because we DIDN'T FINISH WHAT WE STARTED.................and our now a problem because we didn't choose to win the war.............................

Bottom line..........Politicians are too ******* worried about polls to win the War..............

Let me school you for a second, friend....We lost the Vietnam war for one reason and one reason only....when people are poor, uneducated and thirsty, they will fight you to the end man has fallen....same here, you can not fight ignorance, religious ignorance and for that, there will never ever be an end....please understand this.

 

[eagle1462010]

Obama admits mistakes in Libya, says West should have done more

The rapid descent of Libya into violent chaos was one of the most dramatic events in the "Arab Spring," the abrupt collapse of long-standing autocratic governments in a number of Arab countries in the face of popular protests.

"Even as we helped the Libyan people bring an end to the reign of a tyrant, our coalition could have and should have done more to fill a vacuum left behind," Obama said.

His rare acknowledgement of mistakes in Libya's transition came as the United Nations tries to negotiate an end to fighting between two rival governments and their armed backers which has pushed the country to the brink of collapse.

The U.N. General Assembly on Monday was dominated by discussion of the turmoil in Syria, which erupted after an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Russia have traded accusations about responsibility for the violence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed the chaos in the region, including in Libya, on the sudden removal of the old leaders, and said this was creating many recruits for the Islamic State militant group.

"It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa led to emergence of anarchy areas. Those immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists," Putin told the assembly.

POOR OBAMA.... he will live to rule the day, he allows constantly the right wing to dictate his thoughts on how the east should be handled. This is the one and only thing I absolutely despise about Obama, listening to these war mongering profit driven conservative cowards who fight no wars unless its on a campaign trail.

That isn't nothing more than a ******* Straw Man argument..............Obama is a ******* joke on Foreign policy..........has been from day one.................
And that has also allowed the escalation...............

His arms deals for the rebels fell into ISIS hands........................same shit bitched out Reagan for........and took North to Congress for..................BUT NOW............SINCE IT IS OBAMA...............he gets a pass.......................or maybe another golf game.

 

[tigerred59]

The conservatives want war with Russia because they think war helps the GOP politically.

Put another way, they want war with Russia because they think it will help them repeal Obamacare.

According to the left America has no enemies. Well in the real world we do and none bigger than Russia.

We'd have far fewer enemies if we stopped meddling.

Your idiotic brand of isolationism and pacifism would be the end of us. It's a good thing people like you don't matter.

Clearly your to old to fight, coward!!

 

[paulitician]

Putin's a leader, Obama's not. That's a no-brainer. That being said, we've meddled enough in the Middle East. We've created enough bloody carnage over there. Time for us to scale it back. If Russia wants to assume that role, so be it. I wish em the best of luck. They're gonna need it.

another thread ruined by paulie's yammering.

Ruined? Quit being a drama queen little *****.

Like you?

Thread's 'ruined', yet you're still here. Go figure? God, you're such a whiny buffoon.

Only a drama queen would pull his skirts up and run away like you have done on countless occasions.

So the thread isn't 'ruined?' Make up your mind stalker *****. SHEESH!

 

[tigerred59]

Obama admits mistakes in Libya, says West should have done more

The rapid descent of Libya into violent chaos was one of the most dramatic events in the "Arab Spring," the abrupt collapse of long-standing autocratic governments in a number of Arab countries in the face of popular protests.

"Even as we helped the Libyan people bring an end to the reign of a tyrant, our coalition could have and should have done more to fill a vacuum left behind," Obama said.

His rare acknowledgement of mistakes in Libya's transition came as the United Nations tries to negotiate an end to fighting between two rival governments and their armed backers which has pushed the country to the brink of collapse.

The U.N. General Assembly on Monday was dominated by discussion of the turmoil in Syria, which erupted after an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Russia have traded accusations about responsibility for the violence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed the chaos in the region, including in Libya, on the sudden removal of the old leaders, and said this was creating many recruits for the Islamic State militant group.

"It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa led to emergence of anarchy areas. Those immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists," Putin told the assembly.

POOR OBAMA.... he will live to rule the day, he allows constantly the right wing to dictate his thoughts on how the east should be handled. This is the one and only thing I absolutely despise about Obama, listening to these war mongering profit driven conservative cowards who fight no wars unless its on a campaign trail.

That isn't nothing more than a ******* Straw Man argument..............Obama is a ******* joke on Foreign policy..........has been from day one.................
And that has also allowed the escalation...............

His arms deals for the rebels fell into ISIS hands........................same shit bitched out Reagan for........and took North to Congress for..................BUT NOW............SINCE IT IS OBAMA...............he gets a pass.......................or maybe another golf game.

Another too old to fight war mongering fool......shut up!!

 

[Rocko]

The conservatives want war with Russia because they think war helps the GOP politically.

Put another way, they want war with Russia because they think it will help them repeal Obamacare.

According to the left America has no enemies. Well in the real world we do and none bigger than Russia.

We'd have far fewer enemies if we stopped meddling.

Your idiotic brand of isolationism and pacifism would be the end of us. It's a good thing people like you don't matter.

Clearly your to old to fight, coward!!

What the hell are you talking about, idiot?

 

[idb]

So Putin goes into Syria and gets his guys killed and Obama gets snookered?

If Republicans win the Presidency, will they send our troops into Syria?

The keyboard strategists appear to be unsure.

 

[daws101]

The conservatives want war with Russia because they think war helps the GOP politically.

Put another way, they want war with Russia because they think it will help them repeal Obamacare.

According to the left America has no enemies. Well in the real world we do and none bigger than Russia.

We'd have far fewer enemies if we stopped meddling.

Your idiotic brand of isolationism and pacifism would be the end of us. It's a good thing people like you don't matter.

Clearly your to old to fight, coward!!

Maybe too smart to fight for a lost cause. ?

 

[eagle1462010]

It is not our meddling that causes them to attack us. It is our freedom and defiance of their asinine Muslim faith. Meddling may help them recruit but it is not their motive.

The day the US sanctioned the holy land to the jews after WWII was the day we laid the foundation for future conflict with the middle east. We allowed Israel to literly take over a country that at first welcomed these people and by funding them militarily and promising to back their shit up no matter what is why the muslim world hate us. Has nothing to do with our fuckin freedom.....we've had freedom for how long? Since 1776 and I don't know about you, but I can't recall not one muslim issue in the history books I was taught in.

Bottom line is this, building nations should be a video game, not US policy!!

We didn't start the Israel affair, it was Britain and France in WWI. The Muslim world invited the Jews before then, to get their money and improve their technology, Specifically in Farming which the Jews excelled at.

Most of these countries didn't exist then, and only became countries after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire who fought with Germany in WWI and lost. These are the same asshats that performed Genocide in the deserts of Syria killing well over a million Armenians...................

After WWII, the world gave a safe haven to the Jews after they had been slaughtered. The Arabs were all to happy to join Hitler in the Genocide of Jews..........THEY LOST THE WAR..............Britain abstained on the vote for Israel, even though they were the very ones to initiate it................aka we didn't start it as you are of the blame America first crowd.

Before we ever stepped foot on their holier than thou sand, they had caliphate after Caliphate................since the 6th Century and the time of Mohamed, this has occurred.................Throughout history, they have invaded other lands in the name of their religion and throughout history the rest of the world finally had to fight them as they said convert or die...............

Obama is a complete IDIOT. He just admitted he screwed up in Libya.........He sent arms from Libya to the SO CALLED GOOD GUYS IN SYRIA who handed over the weapons to ISIS, or turned themselves...............In Egypt, he was a complete fool.............Demanding that the Radical Muslim Brotherhood be part of the system........Who advocate the radical element of the region.........................

Obama wants Assad gone..........but they are the only element that could hold the area if and when ISIS is defeated...............Stupid policy, and he has armed the opposition there..................

Anyway...............they have hated our asses for a while..........because we are infidels.................so be it MR. DP.........computer nerd man.............You were the type we liked to turn the hot water off on in the Navy for being whiney little bitches......

LOL

Okay, and thanks for the lesson...I still however stand by my assessment of why the middle hate this country...now with that being said, you made a valid point.......when the US puts its dirty little hands in matters that does not involve us, BAD SHIT HAPPENS FOR EVERYBODY!! OBAMA IS A IDIOT, THIS SO CALLED REVOLUTION SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE OF ANY US INVOLVEMENT......WE NEED TO STAY OUT OF NATION BUILDING...END OF EFFIN STORY!!

Never said I wanted to Nation build. Didn't from the onset....................My point after 9/11 was to get in, kill as many as possible, and than leave..............

Once the mission was on in Iraq....................then we have an obligation to stay the course even though the course is a shit sandwich............We withdrew early, without at least giving them the intel element to ensure that they didn't get over run by the group committing Genocide there now and in Syria...................

Obama's policy to do so..........So the IDIOT owns this........................

You mentioned the Shah..................We should have kicked their asses then.........................when they held our people for 444 days....................Taking our embassy was an act of War.....................and had we treated it as such from the beginning...............we might not have to deal with Iran who is a major sponsor of terror.......................

North Korea exists today...........because we DIDN'T FINISH WHAT WE STARTED.................and our now a problem because we didn't choose to win the war.............................

Bottom line..........Politicians are too ******* worried about polls to win the War..............

Let me school you for a second, friend....We lost the Vietnam war for one reason and one reason only....when people are poor, uneducated and thirsty, they will fight you to the end man has fallen....same here, you can not fight ignorance, religious ignorance and for that, there will never ever be an end....please understand this.

We lost the War in Vietnam because of having Pussies in Politics create RULES OF ENGAGEMENT........................Had we fought it as a War and invaded North Vietnam.............they wouldn't have been able to stop us....................Their highest levels of troops were only about 220,000...............No way they could have held the ground had we went in full force................

To the other side of the equation.....................Understand that if you allow fire ants to continue to grow they will take over your yard.............You must kill them from time to time to protect your yard..............but they ALWAYS come back...............

While you can't kill an Ideal............you sure as hell can thin the herd from time to time..........................and these types have been fighting before we were even a nation to push Religion down others throats.......................This is history repeating and nothing more.

 

[paulitician]

Clearly, ISIS came about due to American, Saudi, and British meddling in Syria. Just follow the money. Who wanted Assad dead? It was another ugly foreign interventionist blunder. Now Putin and Iran will deal with it. They'll annihilate ISIS and restore peace in Syria. That's the current reality.

 

[daws101]

another thread ruined by paulie's yammering.

Ruined? Quit being a drama queen little *****.

Like you?

Thread's 'ruined', yet you're still here. Go figure? God, you're such a whiny buffoon.

Only a drama queen would pull his skirts up and run away like you have done on countless occasions.

So the thread isn't 'ruined?' Make up your mind stalker *****. SHEESH!

You're still here ,so yes it is.

 

[blackhawk]

Remeber the 2012 election when Romney said Americas greatest geo political foe was Russia and Obama mocked him saying the 80s called and wanted their foreign policy back? Well maybe Obama should make a call to the 80s and get some foreign policy advice on dealing with Russia it seems he could use the help.

 

[rightwinger]

That reset button Hillary got for Russia must have been an Office Max reject.

We got a ONE HOUR NOTICE to get our people out of harms way. ONE ******* HOUR.

Like I said in last week's thread on Russia flying drones over Syria. Drones that caught us off guard.
Obama is trying to play checkers on Putins chess board.

What has Putin gained in his game of chess?

 

[paulitician]

Ruined? Quit being a drama queen little *****.

Like you?

Thread's 'ruined', yet you're still here. Go figure? God, you're such a whiny buffoon.

Only a drama queen would pull his skirts up and run away like you have done on countless occasions.

So the thread isn't 'ruined?' Make up your mind stalker *****. SHEESH!

You're still here ,so yes it is.

You could always leave. Give it a shot. You won't be missed. Seriously, you won't be.

 

[eagle1462010]

Obama admits mistakes in Libya, says West should have done more

The rapid descent of Libya into violent chaos was one of the most dramatic events in the "Arab Spring," the abrupt collapse of long-standing autocratic governments in a number of Arab countries in the face of popular protests.

"Even as we helped the Libyan people bring an end to the reign of a tyrant, our coalition could have and should have done more to fill a vacuum left behind," Obama said.

His rare acknowledgement of mistakes in Libya's transition came as the United Nations tries to negotiate an end to fighting between two rival governments and their armed backers which has pushed the country to the brink of collapse.

The U.N. General Assembly on Monday was dominated by discussion of the turmoil in Syria, which erupted after an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad. The United States and Russia have traded accusations about responsibility for the violence.

Russian President Vladimir Putin blamed the chaos in the region, including in Libya, on the sudden removal of the old leaders, and said this was creating many recruits for the Islamic State militant group.

"It is now obvious that the power vacuum created in some countries of the Middle East and North Africa led to emergence of anarchy areas. Those immediately started to be filled with extremists and terrorists," Putin told the assembly.

POOR OBAMA.... he will live to rule the day, he allows constantly the right wing to dictate his thoughts on how the east should be handled. This is the one and only thing I absolutely despise about Obama, listening to these war mongering profit driven conservative cowards who fight no wars unless its on a campaign trail.

That isn't nothing more than a ******* Straw Man argument..............Obama is a ******* joke on Foreign policy..........has been from day one.................
And that has also allowed the escalation...............

His arms deals for the rebels fell into ISIS hands........................same shit bitched out Reagan for........and took North to Congress for..................BUT NOW............SINCE IT IS OBAMA...............he gets a pass.......................or maybe another golf game.

Another too old to fight war mongering fool......shut up!!

We may have served during the same time frame Mr. Computer Nerd......................Except I stood watch in the engine rooms..............

Neither of us fired a single shot..................I kept the power on so you could play with computers in the nice A/c spaces.....................

Who are you to say shit on that subject....................Right..............your NOBODY..........to be quoting jack shit.

BTW..........I loved Reagan........served on old rust buckets that should have been turned into reefs long before.............whether you like it or not he saved the military by rebuilding it.........................and your comments will never change that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

So Putin goes into Syria and gets his guys killed and Obama gets snookered?

If Republicans win the Presidency, will they send our troops into Syria?

you gotta love these so called patriots....I mean, would they rather our fuckin blood be splattered all over that region?

Shallow, narrow minded thinkers with tunnel vision.

Both of you. No surprise considering one of you is an Obamabot

 

[daws101]

Like you?

Thread's 'ruined', yet you're still here. Go figure? God, you're such a whiny buffoon.

Only a drama queen would pull his skirts up and run away like you have done on countless occasions.

So the thread isn't 'ruined?' Make up your mind stalker *****. SHEESH!

You're still here ,so yes it is.

You could always leave. Give it a shot. You won't be missed. Seriously, you won't be.

You first.