Liberals, I guess we can thank Sarah Palin for one thing..

[Modbert]

ah there it is----more love politics !!!!! Why haven't I noticed this kindness before !!!

Your girl threw them out the window last night.

The gloves are off, she wants to be treated like a normal running mate then she better be able to take the heat.

 

[dilloduck]

Your girl threw them out the window last night.

The gloves are off, she wants to be treated like a normal running mate then she better be able to take the heat.

oo I'm so confused----you mean you were being real uniting until Palin spoke ?

 

[Gunny]

Your girl threw them out the window last night.

The gloves are off, she wants to be treated like a normal running mate then she better be able to take the heat.

Taking the heat for legitimate reasons is one thing. The crap being slung around this board by you Kool-Aid drinkers quite another.

 

[Modbert]

oo I'm so confused----you mean you were being real uniting until Palin spoke ?

I'm realistic, the Democrats and Republicans will never be able to "unite."

Especially as long as we have religion in this country, so yeah things aren't changing anytime soon.

I'm for uniting people who all want to believe in one person and what they want to do for this country.

However, some people will always be on the opposite end of the spectrum no matter what.

I was pointing out that any sympathy that Palin might of gathered last night by people would of died if they paid attention to her mud slinging attacks.

 

[Modbert]

Taking the heat for legitimate reasons is one thing. The crap being slung around this board by you Kool-Aid drinkers quite another.

Even if we wanted to drink the Kool-Aid, we wouldn't be able to.



^ That being why.

 

[dilloduck]

I'm realistic, the Democrats and Republicans will never be able to "unite."

Especially as long as we have religion in this country, so yeah things aren't changing anytime soon.

I'm for uniting people who all want to believe in one person and what they want to do for this country.

However, some people will always be on the opposite end of the spectrum no matter what.

I was pointing out that any sympathy that Palin might of gathered last night by people would of died if they paid attention to her mud slinging attacks.

I appreciate the honesty--why don't you tell your lib buddies to fess up to the hatred and we can all have a beer or a wine cooler ?

 

[jillian]

Silence - If you have read 1984 then you know the term Doublethink. That's what I see on this board often from many right wingers.

Can you imagine if Mumbles raised $10 million in one day after her speech? They be calling her the next President in 2012/2016 or 2016/2020. They be worshipping the ground she walks on. (Though some seem to do already.)

Looks are nice, but they're nothing if your batshit crazy like Palin is.

Well, it does look like McCain is losing traction since he picked Palin.

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And that's in the Middle of their convention... talk about not getting a convention bump!

 

[Caligirl]

but if McCain had raised 10 million following Obama's speech it would've been a sign that Obama was fucked, right?

what literally scares the crap out of me, is that I actually think you idiots believe the shit you say here.

it's like you're living in the twilight zone or something.

People aren't scared of McCain/Palin they are tired of them.

in these tough economic times I think it speaks volumes that he is able to inspire people to dig a little deeper and give a little more so that they change they are desparate for doesn't get lost in party politics and mudslinging.

Naturally I admire her guts and determination, but I admit freely to finding Palin a scary prospect. The more I learn about her church the more I wonder what she truly thinks God's plan is for her life. And how that would guide her policy decisions.

Bush said that democracy was a gift of God to the people of the middle east. He said he thought he couldn't do the work he did if it wasn't God's will. Bush used poor judgment (yes men and cherry picked intelligence) and rationalized those decision with the notion of "god's will" and the results have been money and lives lost, the military strained, a ballooning debt, exacerbated by the housing crisis which is a different issue but could have been addressed if we weren't spending so much money "birthing a nation," and so on. I believe Bush did believe invading Iraq was God's will. One problem with that is that if you believe that you will use it to justify things that you wouldn't do otehrwise. Like ignoring intelligence that doesn't fit with your preconceived notions. He reached a point where he finally said that History will have to decide if he acted rightly --- because it isn't clear to him - or really to anyone.

Palin looks like she might be going towards the election with the same mindset. She's a fresh slate from the electorates point of view, but I am scared that she is bringing the same mentality, of politics being a manifestation of God's will, that has influenced Bush for the past eight years.

I really hope her church, her beliefs, and how she thinks that should shape policy, is addressed in interviews or the debate.

 

[Dr Grump]

why don't you tell your lib buddies to fess up to the hatred?

Ya mean like spending $70 million of tax payers money chasing a blow job? That kind of hatred? Or asking South Carolina voters before the 2000 GoP primary what they would think 'if" McCain had an illegitimate child out of wedlock?

 

[Modbert]

I appreciate the honesty--why don't you tell your lib buddies to fess up to the hatred and we can all have a beer or a wine cooler ?

Hatred? No

But as long as the right wing wants to ban Gay Marriage, get rid of Abortion, ban Stem-Cell Research, and other things just based off religion then this country can't be united.

It's not hatred, it's just plain facts.

As long as both sides continue to believe in what they feel is right strongly, you'll find people who are swayed by what Obama has as a plan and what McCain has a plan.

It's called common sense, you might of heard it?

I NEVER said I didn't want this country to be together. We are a United States not a Blue or Red states as Barack Obama himself stated. Plenty of people have forgotten that fact.

But as long as we have religion in this country, you will never see that day come. Though I respect and admire Barack Obama for trying and uniting so many different people of different cultures, races, the male and female gender, different generations all under one message: Hope and Change.

Anyone who runs against those two things are already half a step behind.

Power to the People, Give Peace a Chance.

 

[Caligirl]

Well, it does look like McCain is losing traction since he picked Palin.



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And that's in the Middle of their convention... talk about not getting a convention bump!

Obama's bump was not til friday saturday. McCain is bouncing back. Palin gave a very good speech.

The polls by Sunday may be more indicative of what the new dynamic will be.
I actually expect Palin will help in Ohio and Pennsylvania. I wonder if Hillary will be out there any time soon.

 

[Silence]

Ya mean like spending $70 million of tax payers money chasing a blow job? That kind of hatred? Or asking South Carolina voters before the 2000 GoP primary what they would think 'if" McCain had an illegitimate child out of wedlock?

and not just ANY child, a BLACK CHILD!

 

[Modbert]

and not just ANY child, a BLACK CHILD!

GASP!

He'd be dead to them faster than Fredo was to Michael in The Godfather Part II.

 

[necritan]

I'm realistic, the Democrats and Republicans will never be able to "unite."

Especially as long as we have religion in this country, so yeah things aren't changing anytime soon.

I'm for uniting people who all want to believe in one person and what they want to do for this country.

However, some people will always be on the opposite end of the spectrum no matter what.

How scary....? Eliminate all the things that make us unique "free" individuals , especially freedom of religion......and we will all be on the same page right?

 

[Modbert]

How scary....? Eliminate all the things that make us unique "free" individuals , especially freedom of religion......and we will all be on the same page right?

Eliminate all the things that make us unique "free" individuals isn't just religion since Religion isn't the only thing that makes us "free."

Freedom of Religion is one thing, telling people that God hates Homosexuals and that Blacks and other groups should be killed because they're inferior is another.

I spit the water I was drinking tonight out of my mouth when I heard John McCain say "God loves all his children."

This coming from the party that has had people bomb abortion clinics (some of the people in the party itself), opposes Gay Marriage as a belief of the party, opposes Stem Cell research as a belief of the party, believes in creationism as a belief of the party (you know, forcing one religion's belief of how we all came to be down EVERYONE's throat),etc.

I could go on really, God is the #1 thing that people have killed in the name of in history of the world. More then ANY other reason.

Look up a few of these words on Wikipedia and Google, see what you get.

The Spanish Inquisition

The Holocaust

The Crusades

Do I really need to go on?

Religion on paper is a nice thing, but when you put it into action it just doesn't work so well because of human beings.

I should actually mean any religion that has a god like figure.

Buddhism has always preached non-violence. Don't hear them killing in the name of God because they don't have one.

Besides, do you really believe you have any rights at all? Because the gov't can come into your house in the middle of the night now, bust down your door, arrest you and your family with you being accused of terrorism, and then after that it's like a roll of a dice what happens.

George Carlin (May he rest in peace whether he is up in the sky, on a roof [if you watched his comedy specials then you know what I'm talking about] or just buried in the ground) was right in his last HBO Special.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E]YouTube - YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin[/ame]

His speech about "rights" begins at 4:21

 

[frazzledgear]

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - After Palin speech, Obama has record $10 million day - Blogs from CNN.com

Thanks Sarah for the new record for one-day total raised.

Ohh the irony.

Wow, that sure puts the $85 million McCain got after announcing Palin as his VP pick to shame, doesn't it?

 

[Article 15]

Wow, that sure puts the $85 million McCain got after announcing Palin as his VP pick to shame, doesn't it?

I'm calling shenanigans ...

Link?

 

[frazzledgear]

Eliminate all the things that make us unique "free" individuals isn't just religion since Religion isn't the only thing that makes us "free."

Freedom of Religion is one thing, telling people that God hates Homosexuals and that Blacks and other groups should be killed because they're inferior is another.

I spit the water I was drinking tonight out of my mouth when I heard John McCain say "God loves all his children."

This coming from the party that has had people bomb abortion clinics (some of the people in the party itself), opposes Gay Marriage as a belief of the party, opposes Stem Cell research as a belief of the party, believes in creationism as a belief of the party (you know, forcing one religion's belief of how we all came to be down EVERYONE's throat),etc.

I could go on really, God is the #1 thing that people have killed in the name of in history of the world. More then ANY other reason.

Look up a few of these words on Wikipedia and Google, see what you get.

The Spanish Inquisition

The Holocaust

The Crusades

Do I really need to go on?

Religion on paper is a nice thing, but when you put it into action it just doesn't work so well because of human beings.

I should actually mean any religion that has a god like figure.

Buddhism has always preached non-violence. Don't hear them killing in the name of God because they don't have one.

Besides, do you really believe you have any rights at all? Because the gov't can come into your house in the middle of the night now, bust down your door, arrest you and your family with you being accused of terrorism, and then after that it's like a roll of a dice what happens.

George Carlin (May he rest in peace whether he is up in the sky, on a roof [if you watched his comedy specials then you know what I'm talking about] or just buried in the ground) was right in his last HBO Special.

YouTube - YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin

His speech about "rights" begins at 4:21

You must be a whacko, sorry. You have to go back how many centuries to "prove" that Christianity is "bad" for everyone? Does this mean that Islam must be defined by the extremists who insist that all non-Muslims are fair game for murder? Or just true for Christians in your mind? Oh, that's right -ANY religion that recognizes there is only one God. But hey, you noticed any global movement involving internationally based murderous Christian groups lately? Worried about getting your head cut off by Christians who think if you don't believe as they do, you should die? Maybe you missed out on that really, really significant and big time Reformation that every major branch of Christianity went through at the same time that rejects violence in the name of Christianity for all time -but I sure didn't.

How dare McCain point out the truth that we are all God's children -or that for MOST Americans, their differences are much less than what they share in common, right? So offensive you just had to spit out that water -too bad it didn't short circuit your keyboard though.

Sorry, but Hitler was viciously anti-Christian in spite of his upbringing -which explains why he banned Christian-based youth groups in public schools, ordered them to be replaced with the atheistic and nationalist Hitler Youth Groups and required attendance of all public school children -and why he removed and melted down every church bell in Germany for the scrap metal. The Holocaust was not carried out in the name of ANY religion even while specifically targeting those of just one religion -but for the personal egomaniacal goals of one individual. No different from the identical goals of Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot, Stalin, Kim Jung Il, Castro or Chavez. They only vary in degree of ability to carry out the worst of their ultimate goals. But religion not only played (plays) no real role in their self-aggrandizement and egomaniacal goals, very few such tyrants even tried to exploit the religious beliefs of OTHERS to further their own personal goals and clearly had no such religious beliefs themselves.

OMG -you mean a lot of Christians actually dare to oppose EMBRYONIC stem cell research? What a terrible world we live in when some people refuse to believe that killing the youngest of human life in order to prolong the life of older humans isn't right. Killing living embryos in order to extend the life of another human being is what is opposed -not stem cell research in general. Talk about major age discrimination, huh? In fact the most promising research doesn't involve killing living embryos at all. Embryonic stem cell research is actually the one line which has produced NO results to this date, has no foreseeable results for the future and is why proponents insist that research involving killing living human embryos requires government funds. The most promising research, the research that has already produced real results and is already being used for the benefit of real people -doesn't involve killing living embryos and has plenty of private investment. It is the far less promising research, the one line that has produced no usable results AT ALL, the one line of research that involves killing live human embryos that can't get private investment. All because of its dismal outlook and inability to produce any benefit at all -the ONLY line of stem cell research that seeks to get government funding. Gee a religious person might even conclude that God intended no benefit by killing living human embryos. But even for the non-religious, please explain for us all why if private investors won't touch it because of its dismal potential -then who are you to insist all taxpayers must risk their money for it? The private market has an uncanny ability to realize where the promising and most beneficial results will be -and they already got it right with this one. Ever check the facts before spouting off?

No national Republican and certainly not the RNC has EVER endorsed bombing an abortion clinic. I am a conservative Christian who opposes our extremely liberal abortion laws but would NEVER even hint at the idea that anyone who supports them, much less those who work in the industry or patronized those clinics - somehow deserve to die for it. Two wrongs can never EVER make a right, certainly never before God - and every Christian I know or have ever met firmly agrees with that. Abortion clinic bombers deserve whatever the law demands as the consequences for such acts and will never get any sympathy from me or any other Christian I've ever met.

So it must be your own personal bias that equates that kind of violence with the RNC, Republicans and religion that recognizes a single Supreme Being - even though the Republican party has always opposed and condemned that kind of act. Even while also opposing our abortion laws. It actually is not incompatible you know. Never met a single person of any religion or any party who supports bombing abortion clinics. Not one -even though I know lots of people from both parties who oppose at least some parts of our abortion laws. I guess in your mind you figure if a political party, or even an individual for his own personal or religious reasons, actually opposes the most liberal abortion laws in the world - that somehow equates endorsing and "sending out" people to bomb abortion clinics, violence, murder and mayhem in the name of some religion. You never opposed something in your life while also never supporting violence in that opposition or what? Get real already -everyone has opposed something in their life but would never support any act of violence in the name of opposition.

Maybe you didn't know this -but most of those people who have been arrested for some kind of violence against abortion clinics -have no voting record at all. Which means they sure as hell aren't Republicans any more than they are Democrats. But if you think otherwise, maybe you also agree conservatives would be on firm grounds if they claim Democrats are actually in support of Stalin's policy of assassinating or imprisoning any political opponents. After all, the far left has a really rotten record in the world when it comes to that, responsible for the murders of far more people than died in the Holocaust (which was actually born of socialism too). And the Democrat party has turned so far left that lifelong Democrats like Joe Lieberman don't even recognize their own party any longer. Even JFK would not be welcomed as a Democrat today and certainly would have nothing in common with the extremist leftwing positions of his drunken sod brother Ted Kennedy who has never seen a tax hike he didn't fall in love with it. Even while stashing his own money in offshore accounts to avoid US taxes. So do you buy that one too?

Actually I think I'm on firmer ground with that than you are when it comes to religion. Religion has given the world stunning art, music, inspiration and a deeper level of thinking beyond one's own selfish existence. What has far left liberalism given the world except insisting that making everyone equally miserable is somehow better for all mankind? Oh, yes -it gave us the idiocy of political correctness as the first step in squelching free speech, insists that a faceless bureacracy knows far better what is in your best interests than you can possibly know - and insists that a cross sitting upside down in a jar of urine and feces flung on a picture of the Madonna -is the real "art". I'll pass, thank you.

 

[frazzledgear]

I'm calling shenanigans ...

Link?

Reported on CNN and Fox on Thursday and no idea if any other news station commented on it since I didn't watch any of them. Heard about the $10 million for Obama on those same stations too. Hope you get your news from multiple sources and not just online since there are no "truth in reporting" laws that apply to any online source. And just don't see any online source that is "gloating" about the $10 million for Obama bothering to report what the other side collected after McCain announced his Palin pick and before her speech since online sites tend to be far more partisan and far more likely to focus only on what they want other people know while sitting on that they do not want to see spread. It was $85 million, sorry.

 

[Modbert]

Reported on CNN and Fox on Thursday and no idea if any other news station commented on it since I didn't watch any of them. Heard about the $10 million for Obama on those same stations too. Hope you get your news from multiple sources and not just online since there are no "truth in reporting" laws that apply to any online source. And just don't see any online source that is "gloating" about the $10 million for Obama bothering to report what the other side collected after McCain announced his Palin pick and before her speech since online sites tend to be far more partisan and far more likely to focus only on what they want other people know while sitting on that they do not want to see spread. It was $85 million, sorry.

Well I have a quote from what I posted, how come you don't have one for yours?

I'd be willing to believe you but $85 million is too high of a number in my mind to be believed as the correct one. I'm with Article on this one.