Liberals Cheer Bill Clinton's Economic Record But Reject His Conservative Economic Policies

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Liberals tout Bill Clinton’s excellent economic record but ignore the fact that he achieved that record by implementing conservative economic policies.

* As much as liberals like to talk about Clinton’s 1993 tax hikes, they ignore the fact that Clinton’s 1993 tax reform bill left most of Reagan’s tax cuts intact and in fact constituted a massive tax cut compared to the tax rates that existed shortly before Reagan took office, i.e., the tax rates under Jimmy Carter. Just look at the Carter and Clinton tax rates for people earning over $35K per year:

CARTER
$35,200+ 43%
$45,800+ 49%
$60,000+ 54%
$85,600+ 59%
$109,400+ 64%
$162,400+ 68%
$215,400+ 70%

CLINTON
$38,000+ 28%
$91,850+ 31%
$140,000+ 36%
$250,000+ 39.6%

And let’s compare Clinton’s tax rates with Reagan’s tax rates:

REAGAN 1986
$0.00+ 11%
$3,000+ 15%
$28,000+ 28%
$45,000+ 35%
$90,000+ 38.5%

REAGAN 1988
$0.00+ 15%
$30,950+ 28%

CLINTON
$0.00+ 15%
$38,000+ 28%
$91,850+ 31%
$140,000+ 36%
$250,000+ 39.6%

As you can see, there was not a gigantic difference between Clinton’s and Reagan’s tax rates. Both sets of rates were a huge improvement over Carter’s rates. After Clinton’s 1993 tax bill, most Americans were being taxed at rates that were close to the rates they had been paying under Reagan, and all Americans were paying much lower tax rates than they had been paying under Carter.

The middle class actually enjoyed a tax reduction under Clinton. The total federal tax rate for middle-income families dropped from 24.5 percent in 1992 to 22.8 percent in 1999, the lowest tax rate since 1978. For families at one-half the median income, the effective federal tax rate was cut from 19.8 percent in 1992 to 14.1 percent in 1999, the lowest tax rate since 1968.

* Clinton’s 1996 budget still projected $200 billion annual budget deficits, totaling $2.7 trillion over 10 years, confirmed by CBO. So what did Clinton do? He imposed spending restraint, signed welfare reform, and signed a hefty tax-cut bill.

* Clinton signed spending bills that imposed badly needed fiscal discipline. Total federal discretionary spending, as well as the subcategory of non-defense discretionary spending, declined from 1995 to 1996 in actual nominal dollars. In constant dollars, adjusted for inflation, the decline was 5.4 percent.

By 2000, total federal discretionary spending was still about the same as it was in 1995 in constant dollars. Total federal spending relative to GDP declined from 1995 to 2000 by an astounding 12.5%, a reduction in the federal government relative to the economy of about one-eighth in just five short years.

Yes, Clinton reluctantly agreed to this fiscal discipline, and it took a government shutdown to get him to support it, but in the end he did support it, much to the dismay of diehard liberals like Tom Harkin. Also, keep in mind that the spending levels that Clinton proposed in negotiations with Congressional Republicans were far lower than those supported by Congressional liberals.

* Clinton not only restrained spending to modest net growth levels, he cut taxes. In 1997, he signed the Taxpayer Relief Act, a tax-cut bill that, among other things, created a new $500 child tax credit, raised the income limit for deductible IRAs, nearly doubled the estate tax exemption, and slashed the capital gains tax rate by a whopping 28%, or 8 percentage points. And what happened to capital gains revenue after the rate cut? In 1995, just over $8 billion in venture capital was invested. By 1998, the first full year in which the lower capital gains rates were in effect, venture capital activity reached almost $28 billion, more than a three-fold increase over 1995 levels, and it doubled again in 1999. At the same time, total federal revenue rose every year after the 1997 tax cuts, and it rose at a slightly faster rate than it did before the tax cuts.

* In 1996, over the loud objections of ardent liberals, Clinton signed a historic welfare reform bill, the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996. This bill, incredibly enough, block-granted welfare to the states and allowed them to set up their own systems under a basic set of federal guidelines that gave states wide latitude. Among other things, the bill ended welfare as an entitlement, placed a five-year limit on receiving welfare paid with federal funds, banned the granting of state professional and occupational licenses to illegal immigrants, and required welfare recipients to begin working after two years. Estimates vary, but no credible analyst denies that the welfare reform bill saved the federal government billions of dollars and cut the number of welfare recipients by at least 40%.

* As a result of Clinton’s spending restraint, welfare reform, and tax cuts, the circa $200 billion annual federal deficits that had burdened the budget for over 15 years were changed into historic surpluses by 1998, peaking at $236 billion in 2000. Timothy Lee:

The fact is that spending restraint, not higher taxes, account for the late-1990s budget surpluses. In the year 2000, the federal government spent $1.77 trillion and received $1.88 trillion in revenues. Compare that to 2011, when the federal government spent $3.63 trillion and received $2.31 trillion. Does any reasonable person believe that government was too small in 2000, or twice as effective in 2011 after spending approximately doubled? Of course not. Additionally, federal spending under Clinton and the Republican Congress fell to 18.2% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2000, versus approximately 25% of GDP under Obama. (Correcting the Clinton Record: Tax Cuts, Spending Restraint, Moderation)​

Richard Rahn:

President Clinton was elected in 1992 with a pledge not to increase taxes, on which he promptly reneged (though not severely), but he did restrain the growth in spending, and economic growth did pick up.

By 1996, the Republicans were in control of Congress, and they and the Clinton administration sharply restrained spending growth and cut the capital gains tax rate in 1997. The result was robust economic growth, low unemployment, and a few years of budget surplus. (Recovery From Tax Cuts, Not Govt Spending)​

* Older liberals like to forget, and younger liberals probably have no clue, that the liberal wing of the Democratic Party was very unhappy and indeed “furious” with Clinton over a number of issues, especially welfare reform, spending, and taxes. Two of Clinton’s aides resigned in protest over the welfare reform bill.

Links:

Correcting the Clinton Record: Tax Cuts, Spending Restraint, Moderation
Recovery From Tax Cuts, Not Govt Spending
https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/d...ich-presidents-have-been-best-for-the-economy
Memo to Obama fans: Clinton-ism was a success.
To Fix the Budget, Bring Back Reagan…or Even Clinton
The Case for Newt Gingrich
The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth
Washingtonpost.com: President Seeks Balm for Anger Over Welfare Bill
TWO CLINTON AIDES RESIGN TO PROTEST NEW WELFARE LAW
The broken promises of Bill Clinton
The Clintons’ War on Drugs: When Black Lives Didn’t Matter
Articles: The successful Clinton economy was based on tax cuts. No, really...
FY2001 Budget: III. The Clinton-Gore Economic Record
Correcting the Record: The Truth About Tax Reform & Debt
The Dangerous Myth About The Bill Clinton Tax Increase
 
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Clinton............the best damn Republican prez evah.......
 
There seems to be a severe lack of real conservatives in office..Especially on the GOP side, the side that advertises what great conservatives they be and all the benefits we are going to see with their benign governance...God save the Queen..
 
Liberals tout Bill Clinton’s excellent economic record but ignore the fact that he achieved that record by implementing conservative economic policies.

* As much as liberals like to talk about Clinton’s 1993 tax hikes, they ignore the fact that Clinton’s 1993 tax reform bill left most of Reagan’s tax cuts intact and in fact constituted a massive tax cut compared to the tax rates that existed shortly before Reagan took office, i.e., the tax rates under Jimmy Carter.

Goddam that's funny!!

So now Clinton's tax hikes were tax cuts, and with that myth the OP thinks his nonsense about tax cuts increasing revenues is intact.
 
Speaking of Clinton, and taxes, and budgets, check this chart out:

U.S._Federal_Tax_Receipts_as_a_Percentage_of_GDP_1945%E2%80%932015.jpg


Note where taxes were HIGHEST as a percentage of GDP - and when we also had 4% unemployment and a budget surplus.
 
Liberals tout Bill Clinton’s excellent economic record but ignore the fact that he achieved that record by implementing conservative economic policies.

* As much as liberals like to talk about Clinton’s 1993 tax hikes, they ignore the fact that Clinton’s 1993 tax reform bill left most of Reagan’s tax cuts intact and in fact constituted a massive tax cut compared to the tax rates that existed shortly before Reagan took office, i.e., the tax rates under Jimmy Carter.

That's funny!! So now Clinton's tax hikes were tax cuts, and with that myth the OP thinks his nonsense about tax cuts increasing revenues is intact.

Maybe I've been too hard on you, because apparently you suffer from a reading comprehension problem. Either that, or you're just being dishonest and pretending that I said something that I did not.

How can you posture as a rational, thinking person and then continue to deny that federal revenue, including income tax revenue, has gone up after every single major tax cut since Harding? Do you just not know math and can't tell that, for example, that $2.56 trillion is more than $1.78 trillion?

Total Federal Revenue for 2003-2007
2003 -- $1.78 trillion
2004 -- $1.88 trillion
2005 -- $2.15 trillion
2006 -- $2.40 trillion
2007 -- $2.56 trillion

Do you find yourself unable to understand that $549 billion is more than $326 billion?

Total Federal Revenue for 1983-1989
1983 -- $326 billion
1984 -- $355 billion
1985 -- $396 billion
1986 -- $412 billion
1987 -- $476 billion
1988 -- $496 billion
1989 -- $549 billion

Perhaps you could find a conservative at work and get him to explain basic addition and subtraction to you.

And I see you're still using that idiotic comparison of federal revenue as a percentage of GDP. Tell me: How does that change the actual revenue numbers themselves? $2.56 trillion is still more than $1.78 trillion, regardless of the percentage of that revenue to GDP. And, by the way, how many times do I have to point out to you that revenue-to-GDP was worse under Obama than it was under Bush?

Federal Revenue as Percentage of GDP During Bush and Obama Recoveries
First Year: Bush 15.6% (2004) – Obama 14.6% (2009)
Second Year: Bush 16.7% (2005) – Obama 14.6% (2010)
Third Year: Bush 17.6% (2006) – Obama 15.0% (2011)
Fourth Year: Bush 17.9% (2007) – Obama 15.3% (2012)
Fifth Year: Bush 17.1% (2008) – Obama 16.7% (2013)

Predictably, liberal commentators said nothing critical about revenue-to-GDP during the Obama recovery. Under Obama, revenue-to-GDP did not equal its high point under Bush—17.9%—until 2015, and then it dropped nearly half a percentage point the following year. It took six years under Obama for revenue-to-GDP to reach 17.9%, whereas under Bush it reached that point in only three years. Bush’s 2008 revenue-to-GDP would have been higher if the Great Recession had not started in August of that year. Notice also that revenue-to-GDP grew very slowly during the first four years of Obama’s recovery; indeed, it grew by less than 1 percentage in those four years. In contrast, under Bush, revenue-to-GDP grew by 2.3 percentage points in four years.

I apologize if this math is flying over your head.
 
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I like how so many Democrats like to take credit for balancing the budget. Yet over 150 Dems voted against the Balanced Budget Act of 1997....including Pelosi and Schumer.

Lying pieces of shit.
 
I like how so many Democrats like to take credit for balancing the budget. Yet over 150 Dems voted against the Balanced Budget Act of 1997....including Pelosi and Schumer.

Yeap, moderate Democrats and Republicans passed that bill. But, oh boy, Pelosi still gives speeches bragging about how "Democrats balanced the budget" under Clinton, when, in point of fact, she and other libs fought Clinton tooth and nail on spending, tax cuts, welfare reform, etc.

Obama pulled a similar stunt. After railing against sequestration, he took credit for reducing the deficit when the modest spending restraint imposed by sequestration reduced the deficit. Then, of course, he kept asking for more and more spending and whined when he didn't get it. Incredible.
 
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Liberals tout Bill Clinton’s excellent economic record but ignore the fact that he achieved that record by implementing conservative economic policies.

* As much as liberals like to talk about Clinton’s 1993 tax hikes, they ignore the fact that Clinton’s 1993 tax reform bill left most of Reagan’s tax cuts intact and in fact constituted a massive tax cut compared to the tax rates that existed shortly before Reagan took office, i.e., the tax rates under Jimmy Carter.

So now Clinton's tax hikes were tax cuts, and with that myth the OP thinks his nonsense about tax cuts increasing revenues is intact.

So the Republicans were really trying to impeach a Republican president?? lol[/QUOTE]

What a total juvenile you are.

Yes, Clinton's tax bill was in fact a massive tax cut compared to the 1980 tax rates under Jimmy Carter. As I noted earlier, perhaps you suffer from a reading disorder. I said that Clinton raised taxes but that he left most of Reagan's tax cuts intact and that Clinton's rates were still far lower than Carter's rates.

And, no, junior, the Republicans "were not trying to impeach a Republican president." They did not "try" to impeach anyone. They in fact impeached Bill Clinton, not because of his fiscal and economic policies but because he committed perjury multiple times, obstructed justice, and tried to get at least one witness to commit perjury.

I know you skipped civics in school, or just didn't pay attention, but impeachment is when the House votes to impeach a president, and then the case goes to the Senate, and the Senate decides whether or not to remove the president from office. Impeachment is an indictment, and it's done by the House. Removal is done, or not done, by the Senate. The Republicans impeached Clinton but failed to remove him.
 

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