Let's revisit that "Russian collusion" part of Mueller's investigation....

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I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation
 
And? It had nothing to do with Trump.
And what the media fails to tell you, which was included in the indictment, is they played a game of promoting, then dissing not just one candidate, but multiple, including Hillary.
I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation
 
I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation
Newsweak....ROFLMFAO!
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I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation

Some sloppy copy and pasting on my part below.

I doubt we'll ever see a recorded phone call between Trump and Putin if that is what anyone is hoping for. At best, we expect violations from amateurs. At worst, these guys were organized and up to something. The truth probably lies in the middle, they were enriching Trump Industries, the were trying to help Trump get elected and they are drawn to egotistical strong men like Trump and Putin.

The latter led them down a dangerous criminal path. Most of you and I haven't been convicted of conspiring with the Russians for personal gain or political secrets so we are better than them.

Michael Cohen pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal last week to lying to Congress over a planned Trump Organization real estate project in Moscow.

George Papadopoulos A former foreign policy adviser with the Trump campaign, Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to investigators in October 2017 about people who he believed were working on behalf of Russians.

Paul Manafort and was charged in October 2017 with tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign power, and obstruction of justice.

Rick Gates An associate of Manafort and former campaign adviser to Trump, Gates pleaded guilty in February to financial fraud and lying to the FBI as part of a plea deal with Mueller. (meh)

Michael Flynn Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty last December to lying to the FBI about his contact with Russia’s ambassador to the United States.

Sam Patten A lobbyist who has worked with Manafort, Patten in August pleaded guilty as part of a plea deal to failing to register as an agent of a foreign power.

 
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And? It had nothing to do with Trump.


Here's your chance of AT LEAST admitting this.......

Trump hires ONLY the very best crooks, and corrupt bastards for his entourage.......

Go on, admit it.........LOL
 
AG Barr, Lets revisit the illegal origin of the Mueller witch hunt (McCabe's insurance policy), and then cancel it....
 
I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.
Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation

That's a very interesting perspective. How would a former KGB colonel view Donald Trump? Wow !!! Where do you start ?

Donald J. Trump is an example of the worst extreme expression of the exploitation of the current american democratic system. There are likely even worse expressions of this phenomena but they're smart enough to stay under the radar. My personal opinion of what will cause his rapid downfall ? His extreme narcissism.

If you're going to give him the benefit of a doubt and assume that he's somewhat intelligent you have to accept that his only motivation is to destroy the system. Vladimir Putin is wholly on board with this idea and expresses his total support of Donald Trump... and most of the dictators on this planet btw.
 
If you're going to give him the benefit of a doubt and assume that he's somewhat intelligent you have to accept that his only motivation is to destroy the system. Vladimir Putin is wholly on board with this idea and expresses his total support of Donald Trump... and most of the dictators on this planet btw.

Putin is a heck of a lot smarter than Trump........and probably read Sun Tzu who stated:


The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.........
 
I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation

Jake, show us on the doll where Putin touched you to make you change your vote
 
That's a very interesting perspective. How would a former KGB colonel view Donald Trump? Wow !!! Where do you start ?

Donald J. Trump is an example of the worst extreme expression of the exploitation of the current american democratic system. There are likely even worse expressions of this phenomena but they're smart enough to stay under the radar. My personal opinion of what will cause his rapid downfall ? His extreme narcissism.

If you're going to give him the benefit of a doubt and assume that he's somewhat intelligent you have to accept that his only motivation is to destroy the system. Vladimir Putin is wholly on board with this idea and expresses his total support of Donald Trump... and most of the dictators on this planet btw.

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Jake, show us on the doll where Putin touched you to make you change your vote


Moron....if you're trying to be "sarcastic" (instead of just stupid)....THINK a bit.........where did I EVER state that Putin "changed my vote"???.................On the other hand, nitwits like you................LOL
 
Jake, show us on the doll where Putin touched you to make you change your vote


Moron....if you're trying to be "sarcastic" (instead of just stupid)....THINK a bit.........where did I EVER state that Putin "changed my vote"???.................On the other hand, nitwits like you................LOL

Jake, are you expecting us to believe you resisted Putin's Mind Control Vote Changing Machine?

LOL. Sure, Jake.

Sure

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Ze plane ze plane. Ah yes, reminiscing on fantasy island.


Funny you mentioned Tattoo......Here......ENJOY......LOL

Dee plane, dee plane! Trump arrives!!

It appeared “Fantasy Island’s” Herve Villechaize (“Tattoo”) was at the Iowa State Fair over the weekend, given the media’s infatuation with the arrival of a rich man in a helicopter. “Donald Trump, the billionaire reality television star whose shamelessness and braggadocio is disrupting the Republican primary, was out of his element here but undoubtedly in command. He stepped out of his helicopter like a Palm Beach mogul, sporting a navy blazer and breezy cream slacks…”
 
Love this one.

So The FBI decided to send their own agents (OVERSEAS) to tempt fringe volunteer, campaign workers with offers of dirt on Clinton....(still not a crime) that "MAY" have been Russian Sourced.

Meanwhile Mueller refused to look at actual "Russian Sourced" Dossier Information which was NEVER Verified.

Issued 2,500 subpoenas to investigate Trump.

0 subpoenas to investigate the sourcing and funding of the Dirty Russian Dossier
0 subpoenas to investigate the FBI Agents sent to people like Paige and Papadoupolis
0 subpoenas to investigate the so called alleged hacking of The DNC Server.
0 subpoenas to investigate Russian Spy Skirpal and his British Agent Partner Steele.
0 subpoenas to investigate the money trail from Obama & Clinton through Podesta, to COIE Perkins, to Fusion GPS, to Skirpal & Steele and then to Russia.

$30 Million Dollar wasted of taxpayer money.
 
I have long believed that Putin and his oligarchs were and are too smart to ever directly "employ" Trump as a cohort to their attempt to meddle in the 2016 (and beyond) elections......Trump is too volatile...too unreliable.....too emotional.......and, honestly, too dumb to be trusted as a partner to Russian meddling.

Rather, the Russians relied upon surrounding Trump with easily corruptible stooges, and using social media sources to both deride Clinton and.....by extension....helping Trump who could easily be made into a Russian supporter by lauding him with compliments.

For those who openly laugh at....."where's the proof of direct collusion".......allow me to point out that collusion is not a legal crime but an ethical one......AND, that there must be a reason to WHY Mueller has indicted more than a dozen Russian GRU thugs and Russian companies...

Here's a short recap of Russian colluders and meddlers.....

Russian Nationals

In July, 12 members of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency were indicted on charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money.

The charges related to the hacking of emails from DNC servers in June 2016, which were then leaked online in a bid to damage Clinton's campaign.

The Russian government has denied the accusations.

A further 13 Russian nationals and three related companies had been indicted in February on charges of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft.

The charges relate to Russia’s use of “troll farms” to spread propaganda and disinformation during the 2016 campaign, with the notorious Internet Research Agency and two companies created to finance it singled out in the indictment.

Among those charged was Yevgeny Prigozhin, the alleged financier of the operation and member of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle, who runs a network of catering and restaurant businesses.


Who has Robert Mueller indicted? Full list of everyone charged as result of Russia collusion investigation

REVISIT RUSSIAN COLLUSION! Russian collusion has been your obsession for the last 2 years.
 
REVISIT RUSSIAN COLLUSION! Russian collusion has been your obsession for the last 2 years.

There is NO doubt that Russia interfered in our election and there is NO doubt that they will stop......

In 2016 Russia chose to "help" the orange moron.......One wonders what you right wing morons would do or say if Putin decides to negatively target YOUR ilk.
 
REVISIT RUSSIAN COLLUSION! Russian collusion has been your obsession for the last 2 years.

There is NO doubt that Russia interfered in our election and there is NO doubt that they will stop......

In 2016 Russia chose to "help" the orange moron.......One wonders what you right wing morons would do or say if Putin decides to negatively target YOUR ilk.

See, now you’re changing your tune. Russia attempt to interfere with our election is not in doubt, but that doesn’t mean they colluded with Trump. Maybe that is too much nuance for your brain.
 

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