Zone1 Let's Just Remember That A White Man Ended Kings Dream

[IM2]

Democrats did Slavery, Segregation, and Affirmative Action, and bigot moron IM2 loves Affirmative Action NOT EQUALITY

because equality is based on merit, and IM2 has none...





Define white preference...


BLACKs get PREFERENCE in hiring, college admissions etc.

BLACKs have a LANGUAGE privilege because Blacks can use words others cannot like n word

There is NO EVIDENCE of any of this BULLSHIT you spew, CRT moron....

White preference is whining about AA and the courts listening when whites are the majority of college admissions, are 60 percent of the population but are 77 percent of the workforce and 80 percent of management.

Everything I say is backed by evidence. Morons whine about a language advantage because they can't use a racial slur. We aren't whining because we can't call whites, wops, micks, limeys, degos, pollacks, or guineas. But look at you.

Whites are not where they are based on merit. "Merit" has been 246 years of having white skin and a penis. Whites have benefitted the most from AA. White women are white people. And when you want to make AA about race, the American system, to include the constitution, has been an affirmative action policy for whites. You're not smart enough to see how that could be.

 

[IM2]

And yet you cheer LBJ, not JFK...

And you ignore Dexter Scott King, Jackie-O, and RFK Jr.

because they do not fit your AGENDA of RACE BAITING and flushing truth in the shitter....






Without the Republican Party, you would be in chains picking cotton, you ungrateful bigoted lazy taxpayer funded stupid sack of shit...

The only one race baiting is you. The rigght wing extremist version of history gets no respect here.

I have paid taxes all my life. So let's not assume things son. The republican party wrote the Corwin Amendment and tried making slavery constitutional. Today's republican party filibustered a voting rights bill. So you can stop lying about the republican party. You are trying this with the wrong guy. Go find Kanye West and tell your lies to him.

 

[Markle]

Why don't you grow up and lecture the whites here? There are several threads about King full of racist postings that YOU have not responded to. But you took the time to call yourself correcting 2 black people who accurately commented about how some whites mistreat the memory and life of Dr. King. I was alive when he walked the earth and I know exactly what he fought for.

Even semantics have conspired to make that which is black seem ugly and degrading. In Roget’s Thesaurus there are some 120 synonyms for blackness and at least sixty of them are offensive, such words as blot, soot, grim, devil, and foul. And there are some 134 synonyms for whiteness and all are favorable, expressed in such words as purity, cleanliness, chastity, and innocence. A white lie is better than a black lie. The most degenerate member of a family is the “black sheep.”

Ossie Davis has suggested that maybe the English language should be reconstructed so that teachers will not be forced to teach the Negro child sixty ways to despise himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of inferiority, and the white child 134 ways to adore himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of superiority. The tendency to ignore the Negro’s contribution to American life and strip him of his personhood is as old as the earliest history books and as contemporary as the morning’s newspaper.

King wasn't talking about your fake colorblind garbage when he said this and at last check, Roget's Thesaurus has not changed. Whites are opposing teaching parts of history that detail the black experience and the modern media is doing the very things King mentions right here. But you wanted to try telling me how wrong I am when I'm black, live here, know that what I say is right and all you're doing is arguing because you don't like what was said about what whites are doing.. That's white fragility. We as black people live in this country and experience things you do not. You do not get to tell us that only your opinion is what we should consider. A white man did kill King and his dream, because when he killed him, King was at the point of going to the government to demand economic equality and we certainly have not reached that.

So like King said, it cost nothing to integrate, and it cost America nothing to elect a black president who was then disrespected and hamstrung by a majority white congress who obstructed his plans at every turn. So when you decide to try lecturing someone black about King, study what he was talking about before he got murdered before you start.

How the whitewashing of Dr. King's legacy enables America's casual racists

For white people, Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. exists mainly as a mainstream portrayal of a saint of redemption. In this historical interpretation, Dr. King saved both black and white Americans from the evils of segregation, while overcoming the resistance of a few, powerful bigoted individuals with little more than dignified protest and the strength of his convictions.

This Dr. King tells us that hate cannot drive out hate, that we should judge each other on the content of our characters, and that poverty and racism are their own evils. This Dr. King does not think us wrong as long as we do not have hate in our heart, doesn’t want us to dwell on each other’s differences and knows that what hurts white people also hurts black people. This Dr. King does not judge. This Dr. King does not see color. He does not ask for reparations. His solitary request is to act with love.

This incomplete and inconsiderate legacy fuels the agendas of white people across the political spectrum, from open white supremacists to apathetic “allies.” Built from scraps of reality selected from his words and work, this imagined Dr. King does not endorse or exalt — it absolves.

It is true that Dr. King did seek, coordinate and give partnership to white communities, speak about equality for all as the solution for the suffering of all and give voice to the redeeming power of love and the tactical strength of non-violence. It is not a false legacy or one that should be ignored or diminished.

But too often the power of that legacy is used by white voices to minimize the systemic violence of racism, sow complacency and resentment at majoritarian sacrifice and to characterize the work of his life as complete rather than abandoned. Rather than shine a light on the ways our society has fallen short of its incredible promise, past and present, the brilliance of Dr. King’s aspirations are used to make invisible the perpetrators of common violence, the silent disapproval of white moderates and the disparities in income, housing, justice and mortality that have become no less acute with time.

How the whitewashing of Dr. King's legacy enables America's casual racists | View

Praise for Dr. King highlights a difficult truth: His legacy has become as segregated as the country he tried to heal.

www.euronews.com

This is done here and I don't see you lecturing whites about how they arre wrong. And that's the reason for my title and the OP.

 

[Mack Brazile]

Even Though He Is Revered Today, MLK Was Widely Disliked by the American Public When He Was Killed​

Seventy-five percent of Americans disapproved of the civil rights leader as he spoke out against the Vietnam War and economic disparity

Even Though He Is Revered Today, MLK Was Widely Disliked by the American Public When He Was Killed

Seventy-five percent of Americans disapproved of the civil rights leader as he spoke out against the Vietnam War and economic disparity

www.smithsonianmag.com

It's time the lies stopped. A white man murdered King. A right wing racist. So spare us the right wing opinion of what King meant. People here are running their mouths about modern blacks and riots:

Here is what King said about that.

"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met."

King said that more than 50 years ago. There are whites who still don't hear, then mouth off about the riots their refusal to listen have caused. There are whites here running their mouths about reparations:

Here is what King said about that.

“Few people consider the fact that in addition to being enslaved for two centuries, the Negro was during all those years robbed of the wages of his toil. No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries. Not all the wealth of this affluent society could meet the bill. Yet, a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes.

The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the Government of special compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law. Such measures would certainly be less expensive than any computation based on two centuries of unpaid wages and accumulated interest.”

“It is my great feeling that a massive program must be developed by the federal government to bring new hope into being. Among the many vital jobs to be done, the Nation must not only radically readjust its attitude toward the Negro and the compelling present, but must incorporate in its planning some compensatory consideration for the handicaps he has inherited from the past. It is impossible to create a formula for the future which does not take into account that our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years.”

And for those who dare to think King would oppose groups like Black Lives Matter:

Here is what King said about that.

Where do we go from here? First, we must massively assert our dignity and worth. We must stand up amid a system that still oppresses us and develop an unassailable and majestic sense of values. We must no longer be ashamed of being black. The job of arousing manhood within a people that have been taught for so many centuries that they are nobody is not easy. Even semantics have conspired to make that which is black seem ugly and degrading. In Roget’s Thesaurus there are some 120 synonyms for blackness and at least sixty of them are offensive, such words as blot, soot, grim, devil, and foul. And there are some 134 synonyms for whiteness and all are favorable, expressed in such words as purity, cleanliness, chastity, and innocence. A white lie is better than a black lie. The most degenerate member of a family is the “black sheep.”

Ossie Davis has suggested that maybe the English language should be reconstructed so that teachers will not be forced to teach the Negro child sixty ways to despise himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of inferiority, and the white child 134 ways to adore himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of superiority. The tendency to ignore the Negro’s contribution to American life and strip him of his personhood is as old as the earliest history books and as contemporary as the morning’s newspaper.

To offset this cultural homicide, the Negro must rise up with an affirmation of his own Olympian manhood. Any movement for the Negro’s freedom that overlooks this necessity is only waiting to be buried. As long as the mind is enslaved, the body can never be free. Psychological freedom, a firm sense of self-esteem, is the most powerful weapon against the long night of physical slavery. No Lincolnian Emancipation Proclamation, no Johnsonian civil rights bill can totally bring this kind of freedom. The Negro will only be free when he reaches down to the inner depths of his own being and signs with the pen and ink of assertive manhood his own emancipation proclamation. And with a spirit straining toward true self-esteem, the Negro must boldly throw off the manacles of self-abnegation and say to himself and to the world, “I am somebody. I am a person. I am a man with dignity and honor. I have a rich and noble history, however painful and exploited that history has been. Yes, I was a slave through my foreparents, and now I’m not ashamed of that. I’m ashamed of the people who were so sinful to make me a slave.” Yes, yes, we must stand up and say, “I’m black, but I’m black and beautiful.”

On April 4, 1968, a white man ended King's dream. So the last thing we blacks need to hear or read is a bunch of white people who can only misquote one sentence King spoke in his life trying to tell us what King stood for.

After four weeks of testimony and over 70 witnesses in a civil trial in Memphis, Tennessee, twelve jurors reached a swift unanimous verdict on December 8, 1999 that Dr. King was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy, the NY Times reported at the time.

If you think Ray and Lee Oswald acted alone on these missions you don't know how the 1960s worked.

 

[BackAgain]

Both killers were democrats.

Then, as per the “logic” of our OP author, all assassins must be Democrats.

 

[EMH]

Then, as per the “logic” of our OP author, all assassins must be Democrats.

It actually helps to pay attention and analyze.

Oswald never shot a rifle before 11/63, but according to you and all other ZIONIST FASCISTS, Oswald was a spot on Olympic caliber marksman (with precisely zero experience) on his first time

 

[IM2]

After four weeks of testimony and over 70 witnesses in a civil trial in Memphis, Tennessee, twelve jurors reached a swift unanimous verdict on December 8, 1999 that Dr. King was assassinated as a result of a conspiracy, the NY Times reported at the time.

If you think Ray and Lee Oswald acted alone on these missions you don't know how the 1960s worked.

I was alive and know exactly how the 1960's worked. But this is about those who have forgotten and want to repeat one sentence all the time.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Why did white Americans hated him for that message, so much so that they killed him for it?

It is blatantly obvious you've never been to school, much less read a history book.

 

[MisterBeale]

Even Though He Is Revered Today, MLK Was Widely Disliked by the American Public When He Was Killed​

Seventy-five percent of Americans disapproved of the civil rights leader as he spoke out against the Vietnam War and economic disparity

Even Though He Is Revered Today, MLK Was Widely Disliked by the American Public When He Was Killed

Seventy-five percent of Americans disapproved of the civil rights leader as he spoke out against the Vietnam War and economic disparity

www.smithsonianmag.com

It's time the lies stopped. A white man murdered King. A right wing racist. So spare us the right wing opinion of what King meant. People here are running their mouths about modern blacks and riots:

Here is what King said about that.

"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the negro poor has worsened over the last twelve or fifteen years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met."

King said that more than 50 years ago. There are whites who still don't hear, then mouth off about the riots their refusal to listen have caused. There are whites here running their mouths about reparations:

Here is what King said about that.

“Few people consider the fact that in addition to being enslaved for two centuries, the Negro was during all those years robbed of the wages of his toil. No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries. Not all the wealth of this affluent society could meet the bill. Yet, a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes.

The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the Government of special compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law. Such measures would certainly be less expensive than any computation based on two centuries of unpaid wages and accumulated interest.”

“It is my great feeling that a massive program must be developed by the federal government to bring new hope into being. Among the many vital jobs to be done, the Nation must not only radically readjust its attitude toward the Negro and the compelling present, but must incorporate in its planning some compensatory consideration for the handicaps he has inherited from the past. It is impossible to create a formula for the future which does not take into account that our society has been doing something special against the Negro for hundreds of years.”

And for those who dare to think King would oppose groups like Black Lives Matter:

Here is what King said about that.

Where do we go from here? First, we must massively assert our dignity and worth. We must stand up amid a system that still oppresses us and develop an unassailable and majestic sense of values. We must no longer be ashamed of being black. The job of arousing manhood within a people that have been taught for so many centuries that they are nobody is not easy. Even semantics have conspired to make that which is black seem ugly and degrading. In Roget’s Thesaurus there are some 120 synonyms for blackness and at least sixty of them are offensive, such words as blot, soot, grim, devil, and foul. And there are some 134 synonyms for whiteness and all are favorable, expressed in such words as purity, cleanliness, chastity, and innocence. A white lie is better than a black lie. The most degenerate member of a family is the “black sheep.”

Ossie Davis has suggested that maybe the English language should be reconstructed so that teachers will not be forced to teach the Negro child sixty ways to despise himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of inferiority, and the white child 134 ways to adore himself, and thereby perpetuate his false sense of superiority. The tendency to ignore the Negro’s contribution to American life and strip him of his personhood is as old as the earliest history books and as contemporary as the morning’s newspaper.

To offset this cultural homicide, the Negro must rise up with an affirmation of his own Olympian manhood. Any movement for the Negro’s freedom that overlooks this necessity is only waiting to be buried. As long as the mind is enslaved, the body can never be free. Psychological freedom, a firm sense of self-esteem, is the most powerful weapon against the long night of physical slavery. No Lincolnian Emancipation Proclamation, no Johnsonian civil rights bill can totally bring this kind of freedom. The Negro will only be free when he reaches down to the inner depths of his own being and signs with the pen and ink of assertive manhood his own emancipation proclamation. And with a spirit straining toward true self-esteem, the Negro must boldly throw off the manacles of self-abnegation and say to himself and to the world, “I am somebody. I am a person. I am a man with dignity and honor. I have a rich and noble history, however painful and exploited that history has been. Yes, I was a slave through my foreparents, and now I’m not ashamed of that. I’m ashamed of the people who were so sinful to make me a slave.” Yes, yes, we must stand up and say, “I’m black, but I’m black and beautiful.”

On April 4, 1968, a white man ended King's dream. So the last thing we blacks need to hear or read is a bunch of white people who can only misquote one sentence King spoke in his life trying to tell us what King stood for.

Mod Edit: Link to: Martin Luther King, Jr. - "Where Do We Go From Here?"

You can have your opinion IM2, but I seriously doubt King would agree with you using his death to advance your own political agenda, by dividing the electorate over partisan politics.

FBI? They probably weren't hiring blacks at the time. Let's not forget the FBI was tapping his phone, questioning friends, family and acquaintances about him, encouraging him to kill himself and threatening to out him. you know....Jackson would not have risen to prominence if King hadn't died. hmmmm.

Precisely, that is the crux of the matter here.

King was killed, not because he was an advocate for the poor, the black community, or the dispossessed, he was eliminated by the deep state, because he opposed the MIC, and the empire.

Lucid Summations When Tomorrow Is Today and MLK Day

Edward Curtin “What they [regular people] need, and what they feel they need, is a quality of mind that will help them use information and to develop reason in order to achieve lucid summations of …

off-guardian.org

"Beyond Vietnam"​

Event
April 4, 1967

"Beyond Vietnam"

On 4 April 1967 Martin Luther King delivered his seminal speech at Riverside Church condemning the Vietnam War. Declaring “my conscience leaves me no other choice,” King described the war’s deleterious effects on both America’s poor and Vietnamese peasants and insisted that it was morally...

kinginstitute.stanford.edu

 

[themirrorthief]

It actually helps to pay attention and analyze.

Oswald never shot a rifle before 11/63, but according to you and all other ZIONIST FASCISTS, Oswald was a spot on Olympic caliber marksman (with precisely zero experience) on his first time

wasnt he in the marines....they shoot guns every day dude

 

[MarcATL]

It is blatantly obvious you've never been to school, much less read a history book.

So your answer is...?

 

[EMH]

wasnt he in the marines....they shoot guns every day dude

10 points for tossing in a lie to obscure the issue...

 

[AZrailwhale]

That said, you should consider what IM2 said.

There's credence to the fact that you're quick to pounce on him for every perceived or real slight in these precincts, rather than the legion of white racist posters on this site that post racist and incendiary drivel on this site non-stop.

You can't address one and not the other.

If the mods treated IM2 like they do white posters he would have been banned long ago. He’s given free rein to air his racist rants and cut and pastes,

 

[braalian]

Generations of African Americans that came after MLK died failed to live up to his dream and helped destroy it and his legacy.

 

[MarcATL]

Generations of African Americans that came after MLK died failed to live up to his dream and helped destroy it and his legacy.

And what of White Americans?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I don't remember a large portion of the american public hating him.

He was a terrible, terrible person.
It might have been the alcoholism, but at one time he felt like the public interest in his cause was waning. He devised a plan. Bull Connor was so deranged that he was thrown out of office on his ass. King wanted to use those last days in office to full effect. Other civil rights leaders begged him to just let Connor slide into obscurity. Wait a few days and black children would enter the school without a problem.. But no. King wanted sympathy and publicity. On his order little black girls defiantly confronted the crazed Connor who did exactly what King hoped. He set dogs on the children and blasted them with fire hoses.

Martin Luther King Jr. Was and always will be a despicable fraud.

 

[MizMolly]

White preference is whining about AA and the courts listening when whites are the majority of college admissions, are 60 percent of the population but are 77 percent of the workforce and 80 percent of management.

Everything I say is backed by evidence. Morons whine about a language advantage because they can't use a racial slur. We aren't whining because we can't call whites, wops, micks, limeys, degos, pollacks, or guineas. But look at you.

Whites are not where they are based on merit. "Merit" has been 246 years of having white skin and a penis. Whites have benefitted the most from AA. White women are white people. And when you want to make AA about race, the American system, to include the constitution, has been an affirmative action policy for whites. You're not smart enough to see how that could be.

There you go again refusing to believe white people work to get what they have. The NBA is mostly black athletes, so? Perhaps the best qualified gets the job. And yes, you ARE whining, about everything.

 

[AZrailwhale]

It actually helps to pay attention and analyze.

Oswald never shot a rifle before 11/63, but according to you and all other ZIONIST FASCISTS, Oswald was a spot on Olympic caliber marksman (with precisely zero experience) on his first time

You’re ignorant. Oswald was a MARINE. ALL Marines qualify as marksman with rifles. Oswald qualified as sharpshooter; the middle grade of qualification. The Marines qualified at 500 yard bullseye targets as well as shorter ranges. Both he and the rifle he used were well capable of the shot that killed JFK. The range was only eighty-eight yards. I haven’t fired a rifle in two decades and I could still make that shot. The only difficulty was that Oswald was shooting “downhill” which makes calculating the trajectory slightly harder, but anything under a hundred yards is point blank and a gimme to any trained shooter.

 

[Calypso Jones]

I remember it pretty much the same as the OP. By the time MLK was shot, most of the country had turned against him - largely because he changed his position on the Vietnam War.

One might mention that people working as laborers on farms at the time when slavery was extant in the American South were getting barely subsistence wages, and essentially none of them accumulated any personal estate. If you deduct the cost of feeding, clothing, sheltering, and maintaining the slaves from the imputed wages, there is basically nothing left.

The economic argument falls on its figurative face. Which is not to say that some reparations can't be justified.

But it's all just mental masturbation anyway. Reparations WILL NEVER HAPPEN. Deal with it.

well...i don't remember him being hated on a wide scale. Now the message, NOT the MAN is the thing to be honored... He was one of those apostate pastors wasn't he. but even a stopped watch is right twice a day. and when you get right down to it... The left is not honoring his memory or his message.

 

[Calypso Jones]

You’re ignorant. Oswald was a MARINE. ALL Marines qualify as marksman with rifles. Oswald qualified as sharpshooter; the middle grade of qualification. The Marines qualified at 500 yard bullseye targets as well as shorter ranges. Both he and the rifle he used were well capable of the shot that killed JFK. The range was only eighty-eight yards. I haven’t fired a rifle in two decades and I could still make that shot. The only difficulty was that Oswald was shooting “downhill” which makes calculating the trajectory slightly harder, but anything under a hundred yards is point blank and a gimme to any trained shooter.

that doesn't take into account Fed involvement in the JFK assassination which we now know is true.