Let's hear a Liberal propose a solution to the Tijuana crisis.

[candycorn]

All of us Conservatives WHO WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG about the growing border crisis have offered plenty of solutions. Some are more drastic than others but Conservatives don't all sing off the same sheet of music, so that's fine.

I want to hear a Liberal state clearly what the solution is at the Tijuana border. I haven't read one yet. My solution is the Mexican government starts sending buses tomorrow to transport those thousands of people out of TJ to surrounding towns and cities. Mexico is to provide food and shelter and offer them asylum in Mexico. If they don't take it, they go back to Central America by bus on Mexico's dime.

Mexico also has to stop letting caravans into their Southern border and if they need to use tear gas or electrify the fence or some other non level means. then do it. No guns I don't want to see anyone killed but this shit has got to stop. That is not how our immigration process works and we don't change it just because Central America is a hell hole.

Will a Liberal stand up and give a solution?

Solution?

Why is it a crisis?

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in years.

The only reason it is a crisis is the mismanagement of this administration in order to create a crisis.

Did the administration bus 8000 Central Americans to one port of entry? Did Trump do that? What would you call good management of the situation?

Who closed ports of entry?

Ports plural? No, only Tijuana and only after the migrants tried to storm the gates throwing rocks and bottles at border guards. Let's recap here. This massive caravan was somehow funded and organized. They literally broke down the border wall at the Mexican Southern Border. They made their way up into Mexico hung out for a few days and then were transported to Tijuana by ???? who knows, but I think you would agree it was not Donald Trump. And why wouldn't the organizers send the migrants to the various ports of entry? Why all of them to Tijuana? Perhaps to manufacture a crisis?

Looks like it worked. So the smart thing to do is up the ante and give the manufacturers exactly what they were looking for, right?

 

[MarathonMike]

#1 rule for crisis management; don't have a crisis atmosphere. If you over-react, so will everyone else.

Well, here's the thing. When you overwhelm all of the shelter, food and health services of a small border town with 8000 migrants you kind of have a crisis.

 

[candycorn]

#1 rule for crisis management; don't have a crisis atmosphere. If you over-react, so will everyone else.

Well, here's the thing. When you overwhelm all of the shelter, food and health services of a small border town with 8000 migrants you kind of have a crisis.

No....when you react with tear gas, rubber bullets, etc.... you play into the hands of those who are only seeking to create trouble on the border.

 

[danielpalos]

Liberals would open the door wide and welcome the criminals in.....

Not all immigrants are criminals.


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All ILLEGAL aliens are.

asking for asylum is not illegal. we should be upgrading Ellis Island, so they go over there instead of increase pressure on our border.

Doper danny the drugged of dreg, you are worthy of ignoring. The illegal aliens could have asked for asylum at the embassy in their country. They have no desire for anything other than to illegally crash into our nation,

Millions of more illegals will not get you the free money with no effort on your part that you so desperately desire. Every illegal that comes in strains the welfare system you want to sponge off of.

We need to upgrade Ellis Island to process in the thousands per day instead of manufacturing humanitarian crises and not manufacturing jobs.

Means nothing until they ask for asylum. And, we have a Statue of Liberty. Coincidence or conspiracy?

 

[Uncensored2008]

All of us Conservatives WHO WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG about the growing border crisis have offered plenty of solutions. Some are more drastic than others but Conservatives don't all sing off the same sheet of music, so that's fine.

I want to hear a Liberal state clearly what the solution is at the Tijuana border. I haven't read one yet. My solution is the Mexican government starts sending buses tomorrow to transport those thousands of people out of TJ to surrounding towns and cities. Mexico is to provide food and shelter and offer them asylum in Mexico. If they don't take it, they go back to Central America by bus on Mexico's dime.

Mexico also has to stop letting caravans into their Southern border and if they need to use tear gas or electrify the fence or some other non level means. then do it. No guns I don't want to see anyone killed but this shit has got to stop. That is not how our immigration process works and we don't change it just because Central America is a hell hole.

Will a Liberal stand up and give a solution?

Solution?

Why is it a crisis?

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in years.

The only reason it is a crisis is the mismanagement of this administration in order to create a crisis.

Did the administration bus 8000 Central Americans to one port of entry? Did Trump do that? What would you call good management of the situation?

Who closed ports of entry?

Ports plural? No, only Tijuana and only after the migrants tried to storm the gates throwing rocks and bottles at border guards. Let's recap here. This massive caravan was somehow funded and organized. They literally broke down the border wall at the Mexican Southern Border. They made their way up into Mexico hung out for a few days and then were transported to Tijuana by ???? who knows, but I think you would agree it was not Donald Trump. And why wouldn't the organizers send the migrants to the various ports of entry? Why all of them to Tijuana? Perhaps to manufacture a crisis?

They want to get into the Peoples Republic of California, where they will be instantly registered to vote and given welfare along with drivers licenses.

 

[danielpalos]

All of us Conservatives WHO WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG about the growing border crisis have offered plenty of solutions. Some are more drastic than others but Conservatives don't all sing off the same sheet of music, so that's fine.

I want to hear a Liberal state clearly what the solution is at the Tijuana border. I haven't read one yet. My solution is the Mexican government starts sending buses tomorrow to transport those thousands of people out of TJ to surrounding towns and cities. Mexico is to provide food and shelter and offer them asylum in Mexico. If they don't take it, they go back to Central America by bus on Mexico's dime.

Mexico also has to stop letting caravans into their Southern border and if they need to use tear gas or electrify the fence or some other non level means. then do it. No guns I don't want to see anyone killed but this shit has got to stop. That is not how our immigration process works and we don't change it just because Central America is a hell hole.

Will a Liberal stand up and give a solution?

Solution?

Why is it a crisis?

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in years.

The only reason it is a crisis is the mismanagement of this administration in order to create a crisis.

Did the administration bus 8000 Central Americans to one port of entry? Did Trump do that? What would you call good management of the situation?

Who closed ports of entry?

Ports plural? No, only Tijuana and only after the migrants tried to storm the gates throwing rocks and bottles at border guards. Let's recap here. This massive caravan was somehow funded and organized. They literally broke down the border wall at the Mexican Southern Border. They made their way up into Mexico hung out for a few days and then were transported to Tijuana by ???? who knows, but I think you would agree it was not Donald Trump. And why wouldn't the organizers send the migrants to the various ports of entry? Why all of them to Tijuana? Perhaps to manufacture a crisis?

They want to get into the Peoples Republic of California, where they will be instantly registered to vote and given welfare along with drivers licenses.

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id., not a State id.

 

[dannyboys]

More donkey shows?

Perfect opportunity for 'Stormy' to make a few bucks selling her 'Anal Donkey' videos.
She'll need to sell a lot to pay the 300K she owes Trump.

 

[Flopper]

Not all immigrants are criminals.


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All ILLEGAL aliens are.

asking for asylum is not illegal. we should be upgrading Ellis Island, so they go over there instead of increase pressure on our border.

Doper danny the drugged of dreg, you are worthy of ignoring. The illegal aliens could have asked for asylum at the embassy in their country. They have no desire for anything other than to illegally crash into our nation,

Millions of more illegals will not get you the free money with no effort on your part that you so desperately desire. Every illegal that comes in strains the welfare system you want to sponge off of.

For about the tenth time, they can not ask for asylum in the embassy in their country. Our immigration law requires that they apply at a US port of entry or a customs office.

You are flat out lying.

How to Obtain Protection from a U.S. Embassy or Consulate

From your link, "You Cannot Apply for Asylum at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate."

You can seek temporary protection in an embassy but such forms of protection are available only in extreme or exceptional circumstances. For example, a person being pursued by a mob. This is not asylum.

 

[danielpalos]

More donkey shows?

Perfect opportunity for 'Stormy' to make a few bucks selling her 'Anal Donkey' videos.
She'll need to sell a lot to pay the 300K she owes Trump.

she should just "go on unemployment and go to school" until she gets an "easier job".

 

[Flopper]

All of us Conservatives WHO WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG about the growing border crisis have offered plenty of solutions. Some are more drastic than others but Conservatives don't all sing off the same sheet of music, so that's fine.

I want to hear a Liberal state clearly what the solution is at the Tijuana border. I haven't read one yet. My solution is the Mexican government starts sending buses tomorrow to transport those thousands of people out of TJ to surrounding towns and cities. Mexico is to provide food and shelter and offer them asylum in Mexico. If they don't take it, they go back to Central America by bus on Mexico's dime.

Mexico also has to stop letting caravans into their Southern border and if they need to use tear gas or electrify the fence or some other non level means. then do it. No guns I don't want to see anyone killed but this shit has got to stop. That is not how our immigration process works and we don't change it just because Central America is a hell hole.

Will a Liberal stand up and give a solution?

Solution?

Why is it a crisis?

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in years.

The only reason it is a crisis is the mismanagement of this administration in order to create a crisis.

Did the administration bus 8000 Central Americans to one port of entry? Did Trump do that? What would you call good management of the situation?

Who closed ports of entry?

Ports plural? No, only Tijuana and only after the migrants tried to storm the gates throwing rocks and bottles at border guards. Let's recap here. This massive caravan was somehow funded and organized. They literally broke down the border wall at the Mexican Southern Border. They made their way up into Mexico hung out for a few days and then were transported to Tijuana by ???? who knows, but I think you would agree it was not Donald Trump. And why wouldn't the organizers send the migrants to the various ports of entry? Why all of them to Tijuana? Perhaps to manufacture a crisis?

They want to get into the Peoples Republic of California, where they will be instantly registered to vote and given welfare along with drivers licenses.

Asylees like refugees are placed based on their nationality; that is if you are a Honduran you're likely to be paced in an area where there are people from your country. However, if you have family in the US, they will place you with or near your family. Rules for asylees are different the immigrants.

 

[Tresha91203]

Liberals would open the door wide and welcome the criminals in.....thereby being criminals themselves by being accessories and aiding & abetting. Lock em up, lock em all up!

Those immigrants knew they weren't wanted or welcomed here before they left home. They've created their own 'crisis' because of it.

Six months ago was May 27; was there someone trying to come across the border on that day? Likely yes. What likely happened was that the Border Patrol caught whoever it was, detained them, and deported them. This probably happened about 900 times on that day according to the chart below:

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There was no volley of tear gas, no TV cameras, no threads about it....

The only reason there is a supposed crisis there is because of the blob.

No it becomes a 'crisis' when you have upwards of what? 4,000 to 7,000 coming at once vs a handful on a daily basis.

Nonsense. If you look at the graphic we’ve had very busy years of border activity and we didn’t have this manufactured crisis atmosphere.

So tell us just when or where, anywhere along that border have we had that number trying to cross at once???

Either way......blame your damn media for hyping it

Mathematics tells us that in 2000, over a million illegals who were captured. So bank on another million getting through if you wish. Over 365 days that comes out to several thousand a day on the border.

The INS handled it without the manufactured crisis courtesy of the blob

If half of them got through illegally, it wasn't handled, was it? That's a 50%, big fat F. Obviously, that method fails spectacularly!

 

[Slyhunter]

23+ million immigrants here already is proof we need something that will stop them and force them to remain outside our borders. The only thing that would do that, I think, is a wall.

 

[Slyhunter]

Liberals would open the door wide and welcome the criminals in.....

Not all immigrants are criminals.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

All ILLEGAL aliens are.

asking for asylum is not illegal. we should be upgrading Ellis Island, so they go over there instead of increase pressure on our border.

Doper danny the drugged of dreg, you are worthy of ignoring. The illegal aliens could have asked for asylum at the embassy in their country. They have no desire for anything other than to illegally crash into our nation,

Millions of more illegals will not get you the free money with no effort on your part that you so desperately desire. Every illegal that comes in strains the welfare system you want to sponge off of.

We need to upgrade Ellis Island to process in the thousands per day instead of manufacturing humanitarian crises and not manufacturing jobs.

Means nothing until they ask for asylum. And, we have a Statue of Liberty. Coincidence or conspiracy?

We don't need to process them unless it includes deportation. We don't want them here. Period!

 

[danielpalos]

23+ million immigrants here already is proof we need something that will stop them and force them to remain outside our borders. The only thing that would do that, I think, is a wall.

We allege to subscribe to Capitalism, we have a Commerce Clause. And,

that is all the right wing can come up with?

Any Good national socialist can do the same.

 

[MarathonMike]

#1 rule for crisis management; don't have a crisis atmosphere. If you over-react, so will everyone else.

Well, here's the thing. When you overwhelm all of the shelter, food and health services of a small border town with 8000 migrants you kind of have a crisis.

No....when you react with tear gas, rubber bullets, etc.... you play into the hands of those who are only seeking to create trouble on the border.

What would you suggest as a better approach to a group of several hundred migrant men rushing through the border gates throwing rocks and bottles at border agents?

 

[Slyhunter]

23+ million immigrants here already is proof we need something that will stop them and force them to remain outside our borders. The only thing that would do that, I think, is a wall.

We allege to subscribe to Capitalism, we have a Commerce Clause. And,

that is all the right wing can come up with?

Any Good national socialist can do the same.

I am on Team America, I am for my fellow Americans First. Whatever you call it don't matter to me. Pure Capitalism where we get rid of the border and compete on a world platform allowing fellow Americans to die of starvation and other poverty disease I am totally against.

 

[danielpalos]

23+ million immigrants here already is proof we need something that will stop them and force them to remain outside our borders. The only thing that would do that, I think, is a wall.

We allege to subscribe to Capitalism, we have a Commerce Clause. And,

that is all the right wing can come up with?

Any Good national socialist can do the same.

I am on Team America, I am for my fellow Americans First. Whatever you call it don't matter to me. Pure Capitalism where we get rid of the border and compete on a world platform allowing fellow Americans to die of starvation and other poverty disease I am totally against.

We should be upgrading Ellis Island and generating revenue to pay for it.

 

[rightwinger]

Temporary work visas

 

[Disir]

All of us Conservatives WHO WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG about the growing border crisis have offered plenty of solutions. Some are more drastic than others but Conservatives don't all sing off the same sheet of music, so that's fine.

I want to hear a Liberal state clearly what the solution is at the Tijuana border. I haven't read one yet. My solution is the Mexican government starts sending buses tomorrow to transport those thousands of people out of TJ to surrounding towns and cities. Mexico is to provide food and shelter and offer them asylum in Mexico. If they don't take it, they go back to Central America by bus on Mexico's dime.

Mexico also has to stop letting caravans into their Southern border and if they need to use tear gas or electrify the fence or some other non level means. then do it. No guns I don't want to see anyone killed but this shit has got to stop. That is not how our immigration process works and we don't change it just because Central America is a hell hole.

Will a Liberal stand up and give a solution?

Mexico has to control their border. Has to. This has been an ongoing problem for a very long time. My solution is to close the border. See you later. Go home.

How 'bout them liberal apples?

 

[MarathonMike]

Temporary work visas

Ok I can see that, but how long is temporary? After they expire what happens?