Let's have a conversation

For the majority of us we don't care because politics in the US have been a sham since Nixon.
Wow!

After the Nixon resignation, a "New Right" ((see Terry Dolan anti-gay activist who died from complications of AIDS at the age of 36 and his brother Tony Dolan ("Ash Heap of History" (1982) and "Evil Empire" (1983) writer), started to coalesce around a strategy to allow the wingnuts to stage a come back behind the scenes
 
For those on the left who insist on having a 'conversation' about hot-button issues--remember that's all Charlie Kirk wanted to do.

"Let's have a conversation."

Charlie Kirk wanted to 'have a conversation,' and he got shot dead for it. Is it a conversation you want, or something else? Say, maybe, total capitulation to your own views of the world?

Think about that for a minute. Please.

They don't have to think about it.
 
…so let’s not have conversations?

Is that really your conclusion?

My conclusion is that we need more conversations about keeping the hateful escalatory rhetoric down and calling out people ON OUR OWN SIDE who do that.
That play had a much better chance before Kirk was murdered in cold blood in front of thousands and on TV.
 
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That play had a much better chance before Kirk was murdered in cold blood in front of thousand and on TV.

“That play” is what you should be doing if you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

Many people are desperate to point fingers, but some idiot punk shooting Kirk is a piss poor excuse to demonize the other half of the country.
 
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For those on the left who insist on having a 'conversation' about hot-button issues--remember that's all Charlie Kirk wanted to do.

"Let's have a conversation."

Charlie Kirk wanted to 'have a conversation,' and he got shot dead for it. Is it a conversation you want, or something else? Say, maybe, total capitulation to your own views of the world?

Think about that for a minute. Please.
No. His shtick was bully arguing with college kids on one end and then saying crazy shit on his actual podcast.

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

On debate

We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.

– Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.
Prove me wrong.

– Kirk’s challenge to students to publicly debate him during the tour of colleges he was on when he was assassinated.

On gender, feminism and reproductive rights

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.

– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.

– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024


On gun violence

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

On immigration

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024

On Islam

America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.

– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show,
6 July 2022
 
They don't have to think about it.
The only reason dimocrap FILTH might want to talk to you is so they can distract you enough and stab you in the back.

dimocraps are scum. ALL of them. They even back-stabbed their OWN President. They're back-stabbing the Jews at the moment. They've been back-stabbing Black MEN for 60 years and telling them, "Pay no attention to that knife in your back".

dimocrap scum have no honor, they have no morals, they are willing to lie, murder, cheat and steal any time they can.

dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. ALL of them.
 
You seem awfully biased against him.

****, where have you been?

Mac is proudly the resident piece of shit.
Add in unwarranted arrogance, self-aggrandization, braggadocios hubris, zero self-awareness and hatred for all things good and proper and he is one especially sick little ****.
 
I'm not sure you are able to grasp what a "premise" actually is and is not. So school is in session:

What is a premise in simple terms?

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Note my use of the word "just".

Yes, I started there, then supported it with an argument and even an example.


Again, this all seems beyond your ability to grasp. You have been utterly betrayed by decades of mental coddling.
 
Note my use of the word "just".

Yes, I started there, then supported it with an argument and even an example.


Again, this all seems beyond your ability to grasp. You have been utterly betrayed by decades of mental coddling.
Your continuing comments are Proof you are able to grasp what a "premise" actually is and is not.

and hey...

Nonsense. 😂
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“That play” is what you should be doing if you want to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.
I disagree that is always that simple.

As for a solution, either both sides have to want the same thing equally, or one side has to force or compel the other to accept or else.
 
Your continuing comments are Proof you are able to grasp what a "premise" actually is and is not.

and hey...


:laughing0301:

Your running away from discussion, is typical of the left's refusal to engage.

If we don't talk about our difference, that leads to violence.

Charlie Kirk used to talk about that all the time. Till a lefty murdered him.
 
I disagree that is always that simple.

As for a solution, either both sides have to want the same thing equally, or one side has to force or compel the other to accept or else.

You are just posting rationalizations and excuses for escalating political violence.

Go have a hard look in the mirror, you are the problem.
 
****, where have you been?

Mac is proudly the resident piece of shit.
Add in unwarranted arrogance, self-aggrandization, braggadocios hubris, zero self-awareness and hatred for all things good and proper and he is one especially sick little ****.
Not that I disagree with you but -- Tell us how you really feel.... :thewave:
 
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The time for talking with this particular opponent is OVER.
The demented LEFT are completely INSANE.
They have devolved into a death cult at this point.
Just look at the fact that there's going to be a protest in support of Luigi Mangioni outside of a court he's appearing at in Manhattan today.
The guy that MURDERED a health care company CEO IN THE BACK has support from these people.
These people CELEBRATED the MURDER of Charlie Kirk.
They support soft on criminals cashless bail and prosecutors that DON'T PROSECUTE DANGEROUS PEOPLE. A war refugee paid the price of HER LIFE on public transportation for the TOXIC EMPATHY of these government officials.
How do you reason with these subverted demoralized Marxist zombies?
It's USELESS.
:evil:

They hate the USA and all that don't hate the USA.

Really not going to be a lot of common ground to find.
 

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