Let's Eliminate Government-Mandated Handicapped Parking Spots.

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I know, thats why I made that clarification. I just have a peeve for people who abuse handicap parking spots because they are too lazy to walk or feel entitled to park close to the entrance.

What evidence do you have that this occurs other than your suspicious mind?

 

[Papageorgio]

Sure, now they have no choice but to bake it in their expenses.

Businesses, primarily, and the 98% who have to accommodate the few.

Great Christian attitude, makes someone want to be close to God so we can embrace your compassion.

 

[Foxfyre]

Blacks were doing better then, until the great society fucked them over.

They were the overall fastest economically gaining demographic actually.

But back to the thread topic.

I have no problem with government projects that enhance quality of life most especially when they are done via bond initiatives and therefore via permission of the voters.

And I have no problem with a program like the ADA that costs the taxpayer little or nothing other than in enforcement costs and costs the business owner very little to accommodate. The good that comes from that minimal expense and effort is immense. And I think the vast majority of Americans have no problem with it.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You say the same stuff over and over. It's like you don't even read responses.

For the fifth time, what government agency forced big boxes to buy motorized carts and wheelchairs for their customers? What government agency forced or even initiated home delivery of groceries so that the disabled never have to leave their homes? Nobody does customer care better than businesses. It's their livelihood.

None. That is your error. You assume too much.

 

[Foxfyre]

It's also evidence that the laws forcing them to do these kinds of things aren't necessary

You probably can't make the distinction between the necessity to enforce the law re who can use handicapped parking spaces and good will provision of motorized carts and wheelchairs.

But there is one.

 

[dblack]

You probably can't make the distinction between the necessity to enforce the law re who can use handicapped parking spaces and good will provision of motorized carts and wheelchairs.

But there is one.

You're right. I don't see much difference.

 

[Foxfyre]

The conclusion to this thread: Mushmouth is just an asshole.

No. Just unable to adequately defend his opinion that started this thread. It's an awful feeling to realize you can't defend your argument. And many people will keep arguing trying to convince the other they are right to avoid having to do that. Or they turn on their opponent accusing him/her of all manner of things trying to change the subject with a food fight.

Just like insisting nobody weighs 400 pounds without it being his/her fault and completely ignoring all the medical information posted that contradicts that.

 

[dblack]

No. Just unable to adequately defend his opinion that started this thread. It's an awful feeling to realize you can't defend your argument. And many people will keep arguing trying to convince the other they are right to avoid having to do that. Or they turn on their opponent accusing him/her of all manner of things trying to change the subject with a food fight.

Interesting. I think Mashmont makes a good argument, despite being an asshole.

 

[Mashmont]

You don't know. You have no way of knowing why anyone is morbidly obese. But the fact that a fat person uses a handicapped space is certainly not any kind of reasonable argument for the ADA to be abolished.

The doctor who certifies knows.

 

[Mashmont]

No government agency requires motorized carts and wheelchairs to be provided to the customers. That is strictly the choice of the business owners. But they have found that accommodating people and being compassionate is good business and pretty much everybody--you might be the exception?--appreciates that they do that. That is a good thing.

Honey, that was my entire point. These businesses decided ON THEIR OWN to be accommodating. No government agency made them.

 

[Mashmont]

Great Christian attitude, makes someone want to be close to God so we can embrace your compassion.

Acts demanded by government are not compassionate. Compassion can only be voluntary. And that's what I'm calling for.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

They were the overall fastest economically gaining demographic actually.

But back to the thread topic.

I have no problem with government projects that enhance quality of life most especially when they are done via bond initiatives and therefore via permission of the voters.

And I have no problem with a program like the ADA that costs the taxpayer little or nothing other than in enforcement costs and costs the business owner very little to accommodate. The good that comes from that minimal expense and effort is immense. And I think the vast majority of Americans have no problem with it.

The government doesn’t enhance any life. They get too involved and regulated and then charge you for it.

I can build a handicap ramp in a day with about 200 bucks. But with the government involved I need an engineer, plan approval, inspections, and a final approval for a ******* ramp that now cost me six grand.

The best option would have been if I need a ramp for my customer base I could just build one.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Great Christian attitude, makes someone want to be close to God so we can embrace your compassion.

Who are you to decide what our values are? What are you doing to get closer to God?

 

[Mashmont]

No. Just unable to adequately defend his opinion that started this thread. It's an awful feeling to realize you can't defend your argument. And many people will keep arguing trying to convince the other they are right to avoid having to do that. Or they turn on their opponent accusing him/her of all manner of things trying to change the subject with a food fight.

Just like insisting nobody weighs 400 pounds without it being his/her fault and completely ignoring all the medical information posted that contradicts that.

All you say in every post is "People should try to be compassionate". And your definition of compassion is to have government dictating everything. I'm saying people are compassionate on their own. No need for government. But compassion also involves protecting those who need help by not allowing others to take their spaces. That's why I am calling for placards to come from doctors only, and designating a specific malady for someone's infirmity. I'm sorry if you don't listen or can't comprehend, but I've made my point very clearly, and I've repeated it at least five times. Others seem to understand. Perhaps it is time for you to take a break.

 

[Mashmont]

None. That is your error. You assume too much.

No government agency demanded stores have motorized carts.. That's my point. Follow along, friend.

 

[Mashmont]

. And as we know, leftwingers want victim groups to get bigger and bigger. (Witness SSI).

You did. I highlighted in your post, dumbass!

I used SSI as an example of how leftwingers want victim groups to get bigger and bigger. It had nothing to do with parking spots.
You're having trouble tonight, friend. Maybe time for you to take a break.

 

[Mashmont]

Totally clueless. Get an education before you say something else stupid.

Tell me how I’m wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No government agency demanded stores have motorized carts.. That's my point. Follow along, friend.

You need to learn to write.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I used SSI as an example of how leftwingers want victim groups to get bigger and bigger. It had nothing to do with parking spots.
You're having trouble tonight, friend. Maybe time for you to take a break.

You can't even tell me what SSI is, you brain-dead hypocrite! We all know you are an idiot!

Just got back from a vacation in Florida. Haven't posted much in about a week.

 

[Mashmont]

You can't even tell me what SSI is, you brain-dead hypocrite! We all know you are an idiot!

Why do so even respond to you? All you have are insults.