Let's Drop the Partisan Knee-Jerk Reactions and Look at the Ukraine Negotiations Realistically and Fairly

[Robert W]

So dumber than I could have possibly imagined. Strong

So the Russians calling for us to be nuked are dumb?

 

[Couchpotato]

So the Russians calling for us to be nuked are dumb?

Yeah that’s it….

 

[Zavulon]

Congress here is of the people, for the people and by the people. I am a citizen and am getting angry reading Russians threatening us. I happen to believe your nukes are not kept up to date and like your tanks pretty easy to get rid of.

Is your believe based on some sort of real evidence or its just your wishful thinking.

And no, being "for people" doesn't mean to "meet all their wishes" (especially if their wishes are suicidal). And if you believe that my humble words are "threats", you just misunderstood me. Neither words "You should not attack Russia directly nor indirectly" nor "You shouldn't jump off the skyscraper's roof" are threats.
If you do something extremely stupid - you are dead.

 

[Zavulon]

So the Russians calling for us to be nuked are dumb?

No. In modern Russia calling for nuking Washington is the cheapest way to achieve some political points.

 

[Ringo]

Indicative

 

[Couchpotato]

Robert W

Sarcasm. It's a thing.

 

[Robert W]

No. In modern Russia calling for nuking Washington is the cheapest way to achieve some political points.

Apparently you do not love Russia. If it does what you claim it won't exist much longer.

 

[JoeB131]

You give them too many weapons and Russians will count it not a faciliation, but as participation, and they'll nuke you, because counter-force strike seems more safer opportunity than "uncontrollable escalation".
Biden knew it, Trump know it. Do you really want it? Are you ready to gamble with the national security and lifes of millions of Americans?

Russia can't afford a nuclear war...

and we should never give in to terrorists.

 

[Robert W]

Russia can't afford a nuclear war...

and we should never give in to terrorists.

Can America?

Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030​

May 24, 2021
Report

CBO estimates that plans for U.S. nuclear forces, as described in the fiscal year 2021 budget and supporting documents, would cost $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period, $140 billion more than CBO’s 2019 estimate for the 2019–2028 period.

Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030

CBO estimates that plans for U.S. nuclear forces, as described in the fiscal year 2021 budget and supporting documents, would cost $634 billion over the 2021–2030 period, $140 billion more than CBO’s 2019 estimate for the 2019–2028 period.

www.cbo.gov

 

[JoeB131]

Can America?

Projected Costs of U.S. Nuclear Forces, 2021 to 2030​

So Mormons suck at math, too.

634 Billion over a ten year period is only about 64 Billion a year in a 28 Trillion dollar economy.

But forget about the math you don't get.

My point was that Mr. Chelov keeps threatening nuclear war if Russia doesn't get her way.

Even though Russia would be complete devastated by one.

 

[Robert W]

Is your believe based on some sort of real evidence or its just your wishful thinking.

And no, being "for people" doesn't mean to "meet all their wishes" (especially if their wishes are suicidal). And if you believe that my humble words are "threats", you just misunderstood me. Neither words "You should not attack Russia directly nor indirectly" nor "You shouldn't jump off the skyscraper's roof" are threats.
If you do something extremely stupid - you are dead.

It is based on some of my studies. Sure, if Russia is stupid, they are dead, as you tell me.

 

[Robert W]

So Mormons suck at math, too.

634 Billion over a ten year period is only about 64 Billion a year in a 28 Trillion dollar economy.

But forget about the math you don't get.

My point was that Mr. Chelov keeps threatening nuclear war if Russia doesn't get her way.

Even though Russia would be complete devastated by one.

You won't catch Mormons buying women from China.
It was not my math, it came from the Congressional Budget office. Russia is dead if they bomb our nation. Take that from a Mormon.

 

[JoeB131]

You won't catch Mormons buying women from China.
It was not my math, it came from the Congressional Budget office. Russia is dead if they bomb our nation. Take that from a Mormon.

No Chinese woman would bother with you freaks.

I actually did explain Mormonism to Mrs. B131 once. She thought it was laughable.

 

[Robert W]

No Chinese woman would bother with you freaks.

I actually did explain Mormonism to Mrs. B131 once. She thought it was laughable.

We don't buy women like American atheists do, from China. Why did you try to explain what you do not understand?

 

[JoeB131]

We don't buy women like American atheists do, from China. Why did you try to explain what you do not understand?

We don't have to buy them. We can attract them as equals, unlike your misogynistic cult.

Didn't you get dumped by some German girl once?

 

[Couchpotato]

Russia can't afford a nuclear war...

and we should never give in to terrorists.

Spoken like a good little neocon.

 

[Zavulon]

Apparently you do not love Russia. If it does what you claim it won't exist much longer.

And thats why decision makers consider counter-force strike. Striking first is much safer than striking second.

 

[Zavulon]

. Russia is dead if they bomb our nation. Take that from a Mormon.

Is it a part of your faith, or we can discuss nuclear strategies?

 

[Zavulon]

It is based on some of my studies.

Studies of what? CNN desinformation? BS on input, BS is in output.

Sure, if Russia is stupid, they are dead, as you tell me.

Good motivation not to be stupid, but to be smart (and shoot first).

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

At the very worst, Ukraine would have had an economic partner, a long lasting ceasefire or permanent stop to the war and they could have used their new found wealth to purchase more weapons to better prepare for a war in the future, rebuilt, went back to normalcy.

The old saying "beggars can't be choosers" is apt here. He is accustomed to the Dems just handing him cash that they have to borrow from China. Trump is making the hard decisions that a decade from now people are going to say "man I wish someone like Trump was in the W.H".

Maybe two or three will.