Let's Drop the Partisan Knee-Jerk Reactions and Look at the Ukraine Negotiations Realistically and Fairly

[toobfreak]

Ukraine is no concern of ours. Let the European nations aid them.

Well, Ukraine does have assets and resources which we sure could use.

 

[Lesh]

I wish trump had a reliable intelligence service to verify any of what you just said

But we dont

Of course we do ya crazy loon

 

[Man With A Plan]

That's the problem, Trump is treating this as a real estate deal (what he does best) because he dosen't understand (a) international poltics, and (b) as Commander-in-Bone-Spurs - war.

WW

You say that...yet Trump didn't have Putin invade Ukraine while he was in office...and he was also able to get peace accords signed between Israel and several Arab nations.

Let's be honest here, WW...I think Donald Trump understands international politics better than Biden or Obama did.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dude seriously. The US is an empire. We have military bases in 55 foreign countries. We overthrow countries with Governments we don't like (or don't like us) and install Governments we do. We dont actually give a shit whether the country is a "democracy" or not so long as it toes the line. Not sure what fantasy world you live in.

That is not an empire. Back to world history class with you!

BTW, I have to give you credit for not writing "tow the line", like most people do.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Ukraine really wants to join the EU as that has so many ways of weeding out corruption, especially if the country is willing.

When you get rid of corruption, prosperity thrives... This is Putin's biggest fear, NATO isn't actually a threat, EU is very much the major threat. He can call NATO evil and it has a looming presence, it is a easy sell...
But EU is the silent killer, his own people will see Ukraine getting richer (Polish was half as wealthy as Russian before joining EU, now it is double.). How do you explain that to your own people?

You do realize that the EU is comprised of mostly NATO countries, right?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What every Republican senator knows in their heart and Senator Don Bacon knows in his heart to be true, but merely speaks words, but is too cowardly to take action in my opinion is a worm. A worm underneath Donald Trump‘s boot.

It would only take two Republican senators to announce their caucusing with the Democrats and we could stop this bullshit right now. We could scare the shit out of Putin and he would realize he needs to withdraw and peace will come sooner real peace piece that protects Ukraine as a sovereign free all in the cause of western liberal democracy.


I’m sick of hearing about republican senators who speak up. It means nothing except that the Republican party is a quisling following Putin to authoritarian dictatorship of the world.

Trump’s family gets to be one of three equal rulers of the world.under a tripart nuclear power agreement

There will be three kingdoms under one common nuclear umbrella.

China, Russia, and the United States. And there will be peace in the world because Elon Musk will guarantee it based on algorithms and his IT religion..

Putin gets Europe and Africa

Xi Jinping gers Asia and the South Pacific

Trumps get the western hemisphere, the entire New World, including Canada Greenlandagreement, and the Panama Canal

The only thing missing will be individual freedom under s constitution that protects individuals right of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness outside of the rules of the three supreme special families of the world.

Just for the record, Don Bacon is NOT a US senator. Have a nice day!

 

[Couchpotato]

That is not an empire. Back to world history class with you!

BTW, I have to give you credit for not writing "toe the line", like most people do.

Sorry we are in fact an empire. I dont much care whether you agree or not.

 

[Couchpotato]

I wish trump had a reliable intelligence service to verify any of what you just said

But we dont

Where's the proof that the Russian economy is a wreck?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sorry we are in fact an empire. I dont much care whether you agree or not.

I taught American and World history. You might want to look up the definition and educate yourself since you don't believe me, a teacher.

 

[Couchpotato]

I taught American and World history. You might want to look up the definition and educate yourself since you don't believe me, a teacher.

Cool story. We are an empire. You thinking it HAS to look like the Roman empire is irrelevant.

 

[IM2]

Are you seriously, actually saying that America is as bad and predatory as Russia? Really? Seriously?

Actually Gipper does have a valid point.

 

[Couchpotato]

You are not Ukraine you have no ability to cede anything, you lost yer neutral position.

The US isnt telling Ukraine they have to take the peace deal. They are free to continue to fight it without the support of the US taxpayer.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cool story. We are an empire. You thinking it HAS to look like the Roman empire is irrelevant.

Still didn't look it up I see. May you forever be stupid!

 

[Couchpotato]

Still didn't look it up I see. May you forever be stupid!

I get that you believe that the US isn't an empire. But you aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't an empire. Your inability to see that anything that doesn't look like the British or Roman empire can also be an empire isn't my problem.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I get that you believe that the US isn't an empire. But you aren't the arbiter of what is and isn't an empire. Your inability to see that anything that doesn't look like the British or Roman empire can also be an empire isn't my problem.

So, tell me how we are an empire, so I can destroy your pathetic understanding.

 

[Mac-7]

Where's the proof that the Russian economy is a wreck?

Its been a wreck for decades

The war expense and retaliatory sanctions only make a bad situation worse

 

[Lesh]

You do realize that the EU is comprised of mostly NATO countries, right?

But it’s the mutual defense aspect of NATO that has Putin all worked up

The EU doesn’t have that

 

[JoeB131]

I wish trump had a reliable intelligence service to verify any of what you just said

But we dont

It's all in the news.

Trump's problem is that he has Putin's whore in as DNI.

She probably still cries in her pillow every night about Assad getting overthrown.

 

[JoeB131]

Glenn Beck did an overall good job, except for totally misreading Russian military operation

You mean the Crazy Mormon who got fired from Fox News?

How crazy do you have to be to get fired from Fox News?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You mean the Crazy Mormon who got fired from Fox News?

How crazy do you have to be to get fired from Fox News?

That's a stellar analysis!

You should do move reviews, after never watching the movie