Let's do away with all high school and college sports programs.

[braalian]

'Cause they can play sporty ball? How about giving that opportunity to a kid who both needs AND deserves it?

I get the impression some posters here were bullied in high school (or like to imagine that they were) and have chips on their shoulders to this day

 

[Libby von H]

Based on the devastating effects of wokeness and trans-athleticism on our society, female sports have been trashed to degree that makes them irrelevant. Wouldn't it make sense just to do away with sports progams altogether? Look at the money that could be saved. It is obvious, considering the currnet presidential administration, that nothing is going to be done to remedy this issue. You can't have just male sports so all sports should go. At least until the country comes to its senses. Which is probably never.

THat would feed and increase the underlying problem.

Mens sana in corpore sano "a healthy mind in a healthy body

 

[braalian]

Universities don't make a profit on sports. They generally spend everything they bring in. The non P4 programs subsidize their sports, from 20 to 50 million year, by charging non scholly students. It's in their tuition payments, sometimes even a line item.

If anything, ticket and merchandise sales subsidize the rest of the school at major universities with college teams

 

[TheParser]

Based on the devastating effects of wokeness and trans-athleticism on our society, female sports have been trashed to degree that makes them irrelevant. Wouldn't it make sense just to do away with sports progams altogether? Look at the money that could be saved. It is obvious, considering the currnet presidential administration, that nothing is going to be done to remedy this issue. You can't have just male sports so all sports should go. At least until the country comes to its senses. Which is probably never.

Oh, no!!!

The only reason some "students" step foot on campus is to play sports, with many of them dreaming of becoming professional athletes earning millions of dollars and getting the chicks (or guys).

If it were not for sports, there would be even more street crime.

 

[AMart]

If anything, ticket and merchandise sales subsidize the rest of the school at major universities with college teams

That's part of the athletic program's income. A subsidy to offset losses primarily comes from Student "fees" that are added to tuition or direct financial support from the university in some manner to the athletic department. The 3rd row called "total" allocated is the subsidy.

NCAA Finances: Revenue & Expenses by School - USA TODAY

Which are the most profitable college athletic programs in the country? See a ranked listed, including total revenue and expenses. Brought to you by USA TODAY.

sports.usatoday.com

Rank	School	Conf.	Total Revenue	Total Expenses	Total Allocated	Percent Allocated
1	Ohio State	Big 10	$251,615,345	$225,733,418	$0*	0.00%
2	Texas	Big 12	$239,290,648	$225,153,011	$0*	0.00%
3	Alabama	SEC	$214,365,357	$195,881,911	$11,378,871*	5.31%
4	Michigan	Big 10	$210,652,287	$193,559,375	$153,059*	0.07%
5	Georgia	SEC	$203,048,566	$169,026,503	$3,530,802*	1.74%
6	LSU	SEC	$199,309,382	$192,770,399	$0*	0.00%
7	Texas A&M	SEC	$193,139,619	$177,671,900	$0	0.00%
8	Florida	SEC	$190,417,139	$174,365,070	$2,706,111*	1.42%
9	Penn State	Big 10	$181,227,448	$170,542,050	$0	0.00%
10	Oklahoma	Big 12	$177,320,217	$175,997,457	$0*	0.00%
11	Auburn	SEC	$174,568,442	$151,590,763	$15,561,411*	8.91%
12	Michigan State	Big 10	$172,799,513	$156,449,795	$1,358,948*	0.79%
13	Indiana	Big 10	$166,761,471	$132,392,596	$2,708,975	1.62%
14	Virginia	ACC	$161,916,231	$150,584,173	$24,468,843	15.11%
15	Florida State	ACC	$161,141,884	$150,777,734	$22,289,212	13.83%
16	Kentucky	SEC	$159,079,024	$153,621,183	$0*	0.00%
17	Clemson	ACC	$158,283,618	$143,356,820	$6,387,497	4.04%
18	Tennessee	SEC	$154,566,935	$157,108,637	$204,849*	0.13%
19	Oregon	Pac-12	$153,510,555	$140,565,297	$530,816	0.35%
20	Arkansas	SEC	$152,513,755	$144,319,041	$0*	0.00%
21	Iowa	Big 10	$151,483,092	$151,144,861	$650,000	0.43%
22	Wisconsin	Big 10	$150,100,977	$147,807,183	$3,028,185*	2.02%
23	Louisville	ACC	$146,225,965	$139,978,927	$6,067,836	4.15%
24	Illinois	Big 10	$145,735,330	$129,119,247	$10,145,405*	6.96%
25	Washington	Pac-12	$145,184,864	$149,458,923	$15,082,998	10.39%
26	Nebraska	Big 10	$143,423,944	$131,181,951	$0*	0.00%
27	South Carolina	SEC	$142,210,807	$144,815,377	$1,086,848*	0.76%
28	Missouri	SEC	$141,157,028	$125,621,128	$13,157,427	9.32%
29	Minnesota	Big 10	$135,198,272	$130,285,463	$7,986,732	5.91%
30	Mississippi	SEC	$133,557,937	$138,796,990	$4,074,525*	3.05%
31	Arizona	Pac-12	$124,353,539	$124,944,926	$31,112,818	25.02%
32	North Carolina	ACC	$122,603,567	$120,314,967	$9,603,022	7.83%
33	Arizona State	Pac-12	$121,079,615	$124,008,192	$19,253,112*	15.90%
34	California	Pac-12	$118,212,179	$114,485,848	$29,129,403*	24.64%
35	Kansas	Big 12	$118,020,175	$108,696,078	$1,516,194	1.28%
36	Utah	Pac-12	$115,719,266	$111,880,434	$13,516,660	11.68%
37	Purdue	Big 10	$115,139,432	$93,025,810	$0	0.00%
38	Virginia Tech	ACC	$113,000,052	$117,777,441	$14,193,159	12.56%
39	Iowa State	Big 12	$111,287,492	$111,227,458	$1,847,367	1.66%
40	Mississippi State	SEC	$110,653,367	$105,841,622	$0*	0.00%
41	Texas Tech	Big 12	$110,154,695	$104,778,443	$5,830,118	5.29%
42	Rutgers	Big 10	$109,601,529	$138,439,077	$24,034,296	21.93%
43	Maryland	Big 10	$107,526,374	$114,385,462	$15,252,530	14.18%
44	Georgia Tech	ACC	$106,635,094	$104,719,581	$11,865,676	11.13%
45	West Virginia	Big 12	$105,193,311	$97,067,706	$8,887,649	8.45%
46	Oklahoma State	Big 12	$104,404,398	$103,317,156	$13,009,612	12.46%
47	UCLA	Pac-12	$103,061,344	$131,106,913	$2,577,213	2.50%
48	North Carolina State	ACC	$102,387,569	$100,991,410	$7,011,627	6.85%
49	Kansas State	Big 12	$100,822,204	$82,220,606	$0	0.00%
50	Connecticut	Big East	$99,041,960	$96,742,518	$55,341,505*	55.88%
51	Colorado	Pac-12	$94,873,830	$95,968,696	$11,889,383	12.53%
52	Central Florida	AAC	$89,228,205	$69,099,289	$48,795,899	54.69%
53	Washington State	Pac-12	$85,028,825	$83,691,991	$15,363,703	18.07%
54	Oregon State	Pac-12	$83,480,015	$87,729,627	$11,122,141	13.32%
55	Cincinnati	AAC	$83,344,028	$75,902,262	$26,913,237	32.29%
56	Houston	AAC	$78,088,086	$73,806,404	$48,451,950	62.05%
57	Air Force	MWC	$76,587,462	$67,422,052	$51,798,077	67.63%
58	San Diego State	MWC	$65,897,302	$67,245,917	$28,525,799	43.29%
59	Nevada-Las Vegas	MWC	$64,243,413	$62,644,050	$24,656,056	38.38%
60	Memphis	AAC	$62,174,875	$62,174,875	$29,872,328	48.05%
61	Colorado State	MWC	$61,263,230	$61,220,502	$28,227,758	46.08%
62	James Madison	SBC	$57,800,447	$57,800,447	$47,040,732	81.38%
63	South Florida	AAC	$56,110,830	$62,288,597	$28,529,881	50.85%
64	East Carolina	AAC	$54,964,121	$54,133,021	$24,215,366	44.06%
65	Fresno State	MWC	$54,124,579	$46,515,828	$23,252,181*	42.96%
66	Massachusetts	A10	$53,639,818	$52,853,964	$41,719,711	77.78%
67	Old Dominion	SBC	$53,419,653	$51,914,920	$31,258,633	58.52%
68	Boise State	MWC	$50,569,147	$50,328,947	$16,594,786	32.82%
69	Wyoming	MWC	$50,255,884	$47,146,999	$20,672,209*	41.13%
70	Hawaii	BigWst	$49,422,827	$48,029,141	$29,364,270	59.41%
71	Nevada	MWC	$47,946,637	$45,228,707	$23,209,325	48.41%
72	Georgia State	SBC	$45,666,910	$39,913,963	$27,457,063	60.12%
73	Coastal Carolina	SBC	$45,443,779	$45,443,779	$38,455,490	84.62%
74	New Mexico	MWC	$44,881,065	$44,865,758	$18,641,600	41.54%
75	North Texas	CUSA	$44,477,324	$44,222,540	$33,326,873	74.93%
76	California-Davis	BigWst	$44,275,782	$40,909,557	$35,482,389	80.14%
77	Virginia Commonwealth	A10	$43,201,616	$41,887,842	$32,238,795	74.62%
78	Utah State	MWC	$43,157,838	$42,824,185	$24,341,550	56.40%
79	Charlotte	CUSA	$41,261,880	$39,381,134	$27,244,479	66.03%
80	Florida International	CUSA	$41,043,885	$39,433,624	$29,961,971	73.00%
81	Buffalo	MAC	$40,192,255	$39,537,565	$31,835,303	79.21%
82	Marshall	SBC	$39,338,519	$39,350,986	$23,248,630	59.10%
83	Florida Atlantic	CUSA	$39,201,524	$38,132,721	$22,884,788	58.38%
84	Western Michigan	MAC	$39,162,014	$34,422,527	$26,309,236	67.18%
85	South Alabama	SBC	$39,119,983	$33,001,239	$28,922,453	73.93%
86	San Jose State	MWC	$39,030,222	$39,030,022	$23,620,166	60.52%
87	Central Michigan	MAC	$39,002,244	$34,284,909	$27,739,345	71.12%
88	Appalachian State	SBC	$38,542,661	$38,565,701	$18,639,762*	48.36%
89	Alabama at Birmingham	CUSA	$38,351,074	$39,890,894	$24,151,002	62.97%
90	Texas-San Antonio	CUSA	$38,183,028	$39,156,362	$23,864,888	62.50%
91	Miami (Ohio)	MAC	$38,076,046	$37,880,709	$25,993,771*	68.27%
92	Texas State	SBC	$37,288,587	$37,853,450	$27,402,513	73.49%
93	California Polytechnic	BigWst	$37,134,737	$35,998,471	$27,346,027	73.64%
94	Stony Brook	CAA	$37,027,808	$38,944,967	$31,682,489	85.56%
95	Sacramento State	BigSky	$35,893,960	$35,004,647	$30,237,148*	84.24%
96	Middle Tennessee	CUSA	$35,614,512	$35,614,512	$23,654,687*	66.42%
97	Toledo	MAC	$35,602,789	$35,602,789	$21,780,790	61.18%
98	George Mason	A10	$35,162,841	$30,290,482	$27,432,512	78.02%
99	Western Kentucky	CUSA	$35,142,710	$35,142,710	$22,141,424*	63.00%
100	Binghamton	AmEast	$34,835,289	$23,851,280	$21,148,772	60.71%
101	Troy	SBC	$33,355,524	$33,355,524	$24,737,619	74.16%
102	Texas-El Paso	CUSA	$33,131,210	$34,370,528	$19,552,006	59.01%
103	New Hampshire	AmEast	$33,102,605	$31,716,448	$24,156,209*	72.97%
104	Eastern Michigan	MAC	$33,040,581	$33,040,581	$22,129,655	66.98%
105	Louisiana-Lafayette	SBC	$33,021,554	$38,364,254	$17,821,395	53.97%
106	Kennesaw State	Asun	$32,970,444	$25,862,921	$26,563,653	80.57%
107	Arkansas State	SBC	$32,376,515	$32,376,515	$15,245,126	47.09%
108	Rhode Island	A10	$31,993,515	$33,139,455	$24,593,744	76.87%
109	William & Mary	CAA	$30,941,310	$30,727,683	$16,939,865	54.75%
110	North Dakota	Summit	$30,859,877	$30,837,768	$14,777,751	47.89%
111	Georgia Southern	SBC	$30,700,262	$30,700,262	$19,272,029	62.77%
112	Akron	MAC	$30,498,496	$30,290,134	$19,973,110	65.49%
113	New Mexico State	WAC	$30,350,192	$32,457,148	$18,731,176*	61.72%
114	Missouri State	MVC	$29,915,772	$29,915,772	$18,340,650	61.31%
115	Illinois State	MVC	$29,899,837	$29,834,680	$20,879,963	69.83%
116	Ohio	MAC	$29,335,290	$31,309,063	$19,276,584	65.71%
117	North Dakota State	Summit	$29,295,443	$28,432,381	$7,598,441*	25.94%
118	Montana	BigSky	$28,970,312	$22,515,985	$10,039,442*	34.65%
119	California-San Diego	BigWst	$28,899,588	$24,652,947	$26,946,504	93.24%
120	Ball State	MAC	$28,804,851	$28,526,892	$19,993,730	69.41%
121	Louisiana Tech	CUSA	$28,693,958	$28,294,724	$15,999,149	55.76%
122	Wichita State	AAC	$28,611,561	$25,668,918	$9,415,986	32.91%
123	Kent State	MAC	$28,605,618	$29,613,870	$16,858,135	58.93%
124	Towson	CAA	$28,568,909	$28,156,444	$22,913,423*	80.20%
125	Southern Mississippi	SBC	$28,361,867	$28,346,698	$14,474,018	51.03%
126	Albany	AmEast	$27,295,306	$27,056,948	$21,250,608	77.85%
127	Montana State	BigSky	$26,410,575	$26,119,361	$11,972,150	45.33%
128	Nebraska-Omaha	Summit	$25,890,688	$21,502,666	$16,065,567	62.05%
129	Northern Arizona	BigSky	$25,750,579	$25,388,969	$21,118,498	82.01%
130	Bowling Green	MAC	$25,573,967	$25,353,769	$13,760,180	53.81%
131	South Dakota State	Summit	$25,570,541	$23,399,570	$12,267,251	47.97%
132	Maine	AmEast	$25,063,461	$24,291,873	$19,247,506	76.80%
133	California-Irvine	BigWst	$24,937,907	$25,162,739	$20,366,865	81.67%
134	Maryland-Baltimore Cty	AmEast	$23,488,196	$18,788,921	$21,217,973*	90.33%
135	Wisconsin-Milwaukee	Hor	$23,311,589	$14,415,250	$20,822,707	89.32%
136	Stephen F. Austin	WAC	$23,217,377	$23,492,261	$17,735,154	76.39%
137	College of Charleston	CAA	$23,201,574	$22,217,391	$17,774,511	76.61%
138	Vermont	AmEast	$23,196,348	$23,169,941	$17,170,000	74.02%
139	Idaho	BigSky	$23,013,225	$22,289,958	$14,611,262	63.49%
140	Massachusetts-Lowell	AmEast	$22,547,158	$22,192,454	$19,678,437	87.28%
141	Northern Colorado	BigSky	$22,439,916	$18,973,253	$13,752,149*	61.28%
142	South Dakota	Summit	$22,184,268	$22,446,314	$13,796,533	62.19%
143	Northern Illinois	MAC	$22,177,045	$24,097,387	$12,159,935	54.83%
144	East Tennessee State	SoCon	$22,173,333	$22,173,333	$14,038,354*	63.31%
145	California State-Fullerton	BigWst	$21,983,747	$21,983,747	$19,564,478	89.00%
146	California-Santa Barbara	BigWst	$21,720,136	$24,902,464	$17,227,883	79.32%
147	Sam Houston State	WAC	$21,690,534	$20,951,301	$15,140,708	69.80%
148	Long Beach State	BigWst	$21,434,487	$25,797,936	$16,796,176	78.36%
149	California State-Northridge	BigWst	$21,090,545	$20,101,511	$19,744,945	93.62%
150	Tennessee-Chattanooga	SoCon	$21,051,127	$21,051,127	$14,982,898	71.17%
151	New Jersey Tech	AmEast	$20,660,097	$20,064,224	$19,195,963*	92.91%
152	Jacksonville State	Asun	$20,288,342	$20,288,342	$15,531,042	76.55%
153	Eastern Kentucky	Asun	$19,440,010	$19,440,010	$15,403,393	79.24%
154	Louisiana-Monroe	SBC	$19,119,368	$20,527,424	$10,179,185	53.24%
155	Lamar	SthLnd	$18,882,235	$18,854,203	$13,585,383	71.95%
156	Southern Illinois	MVC	$18,739,324	$22,028,920	$11,092,049	59.19%
157	Indiana State	MVC	$18,656,224	$17,903,701	$13,240,127	70.97%
158	Murray State	MVC	$18,597,756	$19,210,384	$12,857,020*	69.13%
159	North Carolina Greensboro	SoCon	$18,432,746	$17,118,048	$15,048,768	81.64%
160	Tarleton State	WAC	$18,308,489	$18,048,307	$14,759,932	80.62%
161	Citadel	SoCon	$18,209,217	$18,019,405	$10,855,111	59.61%
162	Illinois-Chicago	MVC	$18,193,225	$19,336,276	$15,400,231	84.65%
163	Southern	SWAC	$18,190,798	$18,585,316	$13,172,423	72.41%
164	Texas-Arlington	WAC	$17,996,376	$18,542,203	$14,772,967	82.09%
165	Utah Valley	WAC	$17,816,209	$18,906,619	$14,784,832	82.99%
166	Youngstown State	Hor	$17,773,160	$17,773,159	$12,996,486	73.12%
167	California-Riverside	BigWst	$17,692,802	$16,789,734	$16,043,635	90.68%
168	Austin Peay	Asun	$17,641,703	$17,644,953	$13,072,545	74.10%
169	Oakland	Hor	$17,619,216	$17,325,703	$13,556,681	76.94%
170	Northern Iowa	MVC	$17,603,463	$19,819,613	$9,371,580	53.24%
171	Florida Gulf Coast	Asun	$17,583,497	$17,286,852	$11,283,055	64.17%
172	Tennessee Tech	OVC	$17,547,092	$16,565,077	$14,220,420	81.04%
173	Central Arkansas	Asun	$17,502,833	$17,096,473	$13,572,734*	77.55%
174	Southern Utah	WAC	$17,259,008	$16,254,960	$13,094,521	75.87%
175	California State-Bakersfield	BigWst	$17,216,224	$17,053,029	$14,771,342	85.80%
176	Portland State	BigSky	$16,839,891	$16,160,881	$13,931,043	82.73%
177	Northern Kentucky	Hor	$16,467,014	$16,521,511	$13,525,219	82.14%
178	Western Carolina	SoCon	$16,396,597	$17,040,389	$11,355,000	69.25%
179	North Carolina A&T	CAA	$16,372,030	$15,829,584	$12,770,399	78.00%
180	Delaware State	MEAC	$16,211,290	$16,211,290	$14,947,002	92.20%
181	Texas-Rio Grande Valley	WAC	$16,091,645	$14,543,584	$13,500,273	83.90%
182	Central Connecticut	NEC	$16,043,570	$16,043,570	$13,589,462	84.70%
183	North Carolina Wilmington	CAA	$15,989,714	$15,141,319	$11,694,838	73.14%
184	VMI	SoCon	$15,960,931	$16,114,012	$7,216,829	45.22%
185	Norfolk State	MEAC	$15,929,886	$15,928,886	$12,301,575	77.22%
186	Tennessee State	OVC	$15,883,556	$15,883,556	$12,899,140	81.21%
187	Radford	BigSou	$15,848,430	$12,194,004	$12,981,106	81.91%
188	Weber State	BigSky	$15,842,365	$16,447,647	$10,221,299*	64.52%
189	Southeastern Louisiana	SthLnd	$14,876,169	$14,775,594	$8,114,007*	54.54%
190	North Florida	Asun	$14,783,497	$14,456,960	$9,553,475	64.62%
191	Texas A&M-Corpus Christi	SthLnd	$14,616,970	$14,968,202	$11,834,539	80.96%
192	Alabama State	SWAC	$14,550,273	$17,892,138	$9,439,916	64.88%
193	Tennessee-Martin	OVC	$14,461,961	$14,461,961	$9,977,973	68.99%
194	Utah Tech	WAC	$14,348,736	$13,987,957	$11,472,253	79.95%
195	Prairie View A&M	SWAC	$14,322,177	$18,821,203	$10,870,710	75.90%
196	Cleveland State	Hor	$14,140,486	$14,145,508	$11,726,254	82.93%
197	Alabama A&M	SWAC	$14,006,086	$14,189,129	$12,660,512	90.39%
198	North Alabama	Asun	$13,788,806	$13,788,806	$10,373,112	75.23%
199	Arkansas-Little Rock	OVC	$13,734,051	$13,928,945	$10,073,398	73.35%
200	McNeese State	SthLnd	$13,623,100	$13,321,532	$6,899,234	50.64%
201	Northwestern State La	SthLnd	$13,505,438	$13,234,261	$9,203,843	68.15%
202	Texas Southern	SWAC	$13,362,715	$13,362,715	$9,639,506	72.14%
203	Purdue Fort Wayne	Hor	$13,300,194	$13,062,826	$10,887,276	81.86%
204	South Carolina State	MEAC	$13,271,355	$7,857,836	$9,648,463	72.70%
205	Florida A&M	SWAC	$13,172,315	$12,049,059	$7,880,718	59.83%
206	Eastern Washington	BigSky	$12,886,340	$16,032,290	$8,994,686	69.80%
207	Eastern Illinois	OVC	$12,837,153	$14,551,286	$8,752,715	68.18%
208	Jackson State	SWAC	$12,821,652	$12,637,183	$5,047,840	39.37%
209	Southeast Missouri State	OVC	$12,807,771	$12,807,770	$9,430,049*	73.63%
210	Missouri-Kansas City	Summit	$12,337,892	$12,893,022	$10,036,067	81.34%
211	Longwood	BigSou	$12,319,728	$12,023,800	$10,048,141	81.56%
212	Idaho State	BigSky	$12,137,163	$15,447,714	$8,137,219	67.04%
213	Morehead State	OVC	$11,639,966	$11,639,966	$9,470,790	81.36%
214	Winthrop	BigSou	$11,409,622	$11,515,673	$9,485,007	83.13%
215	Grambling State	SWAC	$11,378,552	$12,334,219	$8,410,793	73.92%
216	North Carolina Central	MEAC	$11,339,477	$11,339,477	$8,680,735	76.55%
217	Southern Illinois Edwardsville	OVC	$11,204,485	$11,106,055	$8,456,207	75.47%
218	Morgan State	MEAC	$11,126,282	$14,924,648	$9,182,589*	82.53%
219	Wright State	Hor	$11,046,655	$10,698,961	$8,508,660	77.02%
220	Nicholls State	SthLnd	$10,961,304	$11,164,752	$6,619,997	60.39%
221	Indiana-Purdue Indianapolis	Hor	$10,289,130	$10,281,924	$8,989,403*	87.37%
222	Western Illinois	Summit	$10,066,267	$11,703,844	$7,225,534	71.78%
223	Wisconsin-Green Bay	Hor	$9,500,254	$8,898,030	$6,220,222*	65.47%
224	South Carolina Upstate	BigSou	$8,941,784	$8,946,029	$7,710,628	86.23%
225	North Carolina Asheville	BigSou	$8,720,475	$8,884,929	$6,158,701	70.62%
226	Arkansas-Pine Bluff	SWAC	$8,650,669	$8,689,626	$4,397,206	50.83%
227	Chicago State	Ind	$8,001,394	$8,398,712	$7,468,157	93.34%
228	Maryland-Eastern Shore	MEAC	$7,875,993	$7,875,993	$6,409,243	81.38%
229	Alcorn State	SWAC	$6,159,503	$6,863,951	$3,241,371	52.62%
230	Coppin State	MEAC	$4,091,289	$5,254,060	$2,365,932	57.83%
231	Mississippi Valley State	SWAC	$4,040,925	$4,040,925	$2,399,030	59.37%
232	New Orleans	SthLnd	$2,526,887	$4,810,778	$972,706*	38.49%

 

[task0778]

The existence of athletic scholarships doesn’t prevent anyone from earning an academic scholarship

And those kids who earned an athletic scholarship worked their asses off 100% as much as the ones who earned an academic one

In some cases, it might be that a kid focuses on athletics in order to get an athletic scholarship to the point where his/her academic studies suffer. For one reason or another, how many are disappointed when that scholarship does not happen and they do not have much to fall back on? Yes, the existence of an athletic scholarship doesn't prevent earning the other, but it might disincentivize some kids to work as hard for the latter as much as they might for the former. Some will but many won't, and I think an athletic scholarship ought to be off the table.

 

[Unkotare]

I never noticed anyone on an athletic scholarship resenting those on academic scholarships. And of course many people earn both.

 

[candycorn]

99.9% of all school competitions go on without a hitch but lets burn it all down because something something something. Righties. Melting everywhere.

So very true. A solution in search of a problem.

The bigger problem is that we spend way too much money on inter-murals--sending a team (as was the case when I was down in Texas a few years ago) from Laredo all the way to Corpus Christi (about 400 miles round trip) to play a football game. There are like 60 high schools that they could have played that were closer, saved the money on gas, maintenance, overtime for the bus driver, etc... But for some reason...no they had to go all the way to Corpus to play Ray High School.

When the teachers ask for more money or the parents ask for vocational education classes....I’m sure the response is, “we don’t have resources”. Yeah...because of dumbass moves like the one above.

 

[candycorn]

Universities don't make a profit on sports.

Correct.

How many years has Ohio State been a powerhouse. Massive TV contracts, massive endorsement deals, massive radio contracts, conference money, etc...

It has to be hundreds of millions of dollars (if not into the billion dollar range)

Has tuition gone down at Ohio State? Nope. Disgraced former coaches are probably still cashing checks.

Texas A&M fired their coach and he’s making more money than the governor for not coaching the team. LOL.

 

[candycorn]

High school football is a source of revenue for the schools

Then the kids should be paid. Right?

And the very last things kids today need is less physical activity

Nobody is arguing that. Do you need to bus the kid 400 miles to get that activity?Play teams within 50 miles of your high school. Not that hard.

 

[AMart]

Correct.

How many years has Ohio State been a powerhouse. Massive TV contracts, massive endorsement deals, massive radio contracts, conference money, etc...

It has to be hundreds of millions of dollars (if not into the billion dollar range)

Has tuition gone down at Ohio State? Nope. Disgraced former coaches are probably still cashing checks.

Texas A&M fired their coach and he’s making more money than the governor for not coaching the team. LOL.

I posted the income/expenses of D1 athletic teams above. OSU took in 251 Million and expenses were 225 Million. Purdue, IU, Iowa etc get the same cut from the TV deal as OSU.

 

[candycorn]

I posted the income/expenses of D1 athletic teams above. OSU took in 251 Million and expenses were 225 Million. Purdue, IU, Iowa etc get the same cut from the TV deal as OSU.

Is that per year?

 

[task0778]

I never noticed anyone on an athletic scholarship resenting those on academic scholarships. And of course many people earn both.

Any resentment is irrelevant. Many people do earn both, but my guess is that most don't. My concern is not for those who earned one or both, it's for those who earned neither one cuz they put their eggs into only one basket. I believe that an athletic scholarships disincentivizes kids to pin their futures outside of athletics.

 

[AMart]

Is that per year?

Yes 2023.

 

[candycorn]

Yes 2023.

And I imagine the figures were in the same ballpark for at least 10 years running.

Doesn’t seem like -- outside of bragging’ rights -- the citizens of Ohio are getting much bang for their buck with tuition and fees rising while the athletic departments are bringing in so much money that they quickly spend elsewhere.

 

[AMart]

And I imagine the figures were in the same ballpark for at least 10 years running.

Doesn’t seem like -- outside of bragging’ rights -- the citizens of Ohio are getting much bang for their buck with tuition and fees rising while the athletic departments are bringing in so much money that they quickly spend elsewhere.

With OSU there is that supply demand thing. Big Ten schools are more selective than than Akron, BGSU, NIU, Ball State. etc. OSU doesn't have to bake in student fees to subsidize athletics were as the bold do. Student fees pay for 60-80% of the the Athletics at those schools. The tuition isn't all that different either.
At main Campus most of the Ohio state schools (OSU, Cincy, BGSU, Ohio, Kent etc) are around 13K tuition. Miami is the most expensive at 15.5K. Branch campus locations cost less.

 

[Unkotare]

Any resentment is irrelevant. Many people do earn both, but my guess is that most don't. My concern is not for those who earned one or both, it's for those who earned neither one cuz they put their eggs into only one basket. I believe that an athletic scholarships disincentivizes kids to pin their futures outside of athletics.

Oh yeah, we wouldn't want to encourage kids to set goals for themselves and work hard to achieve them. And, of course, you imply yet again that someone working hard at athletics can't also work hard at academics. Most do. This whole thread is just sour grapes.

 

[Unkotare]

And alumni donations? And school merchandize? And (athletic and non) recruiting? etc.

^^^

 

[task0778]

You imply yet again that someone working hard at athletics can't also work hard at academics. Most do.

I don't think so.

 

[Unkotare]

I don't think so.

Your bitter, clumsy childhood imagination aside, you are WRONG. Good for you that you could come here and be corrected.