tigerred59
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Its so simple, just raise the price of bullets and let the gun lovers pay out da ass for ammo.
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Its so simple, just raise the price of bullets and let the gun lovers pay out da ass for ammo.
Its so simple, just raise the price of bullets and let the gun lovers pay out da ass for ammo.
Some of us make our own....
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Its so simple, just raise the price of bullets and let the gun lovers pay out da ass for ammo.
Its so simple, just raise the price of bullets and let the gun lovers pay out da ass for ammo.
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
No matter what you do, we'll just get around it.
How did prohibition work ? The war on drugs ?
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
No matter what you do, we'll just get around it.
How did prohibition work ? The war on drugs ?
That's the argument ya hear, the criminals will always find a way to get their guns.
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
How many of that 90% plead guilty under a plea deal in order that they get a lesser sentence knowing that if they went to trial the punishment would be far more. They're going to jail either way. It works out better for them to plead guilty and not have a trial. Does the fact that they don't have an actual trial mean they weren't treated fairly?
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
Way to go to give advice...
Go ahead and take a jury trial, instead of a plea bargain for a trivia offense and see where that gets ya....
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Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
Way to go to give advice...
Go ahead and take a jury trial, instead of a plea bargain for a trivia offense and see where that gets ya....
.
Can we apply that same line of thinking to other rights? You get legal counsel after being arrested, but slap a million dollar tax on his services? You can still buy pen and paper, but you need to take a class and pay huge fees to have them? You can still keep from testifying against yourself, but only if you pay the special tax and some bureaucrat signs off on it, and he doesn't have to?
We do in a manner of speaking. Everyone is "entitled" to a jury trial of his/her peers. 90% of those incarcerated in our for profit prison system never get a trial at all. Fact is, the penal system would collapse under its own weight if every accused got a trial. But the lie sure sounds nice.
Way to go to give advice...
Go ahead and take a jury trial, instead of a plea bargain for a trivia offense and see where that gets ya....
.
My question to him was how many of that 90% plea down to a lesser charge knowing that if they went to trial the results would be far worse.
No matter what you do, we'll just get around it.
How did prohibition work ? The war on drugs ?