Diminishing the (radiative) cooling is stating it correctly.
But that`s not what Roy is claiming. Roy claims :
"Yes Virgina cold objects can warm a warmer object even warmer still"
And at that point any engineer will tell You flat out that he has gone from photon & quantum physics to fiction and perpetual motion:
Second law of thermodynamics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quote:
Equivalence of the statements
Derive Kelvin Statement from Clausius Statement
Suppose there is an engine violating the Kelvin statement: i.e.,one that drains heat and converts it completely into work in a cyclic fashion without any other result. Now pair it with a reversed Carnot engine as shown by the graph. The net and sole effect of this newly created engine consisting of the two engines mentioned is transferring heat \Delta Q=Q\left(\frac{1}{\eta}-1\right) from the cooler reservoir to the hotter one, which violates the Clausius statement. Thus a violation of the Kelvin statement implies a violation of the Clausius statement, i.e. the Clausius statement implies the Kelvin statement. We can prove in a similar manner that the Kelvin statement implies the Clausius statement, and hence the two are equivalent.
And the radiative transfer equivalent of the above law that Roy Spencer is either too stupid to comprehend or is deliberately falsifying and "explained" it to a "Virginia" which has no science background and he managed to convince with that diminishing radiative transfer is the same as warming an object.
this is your perpetual motion machine!!?? you do realize that Spencer's first plate was heated by electricity, and the earth is heated by the sun, right? I fail to see how ordered input being transfered into disordered output is breaking any thermodynamic laws, let alone being accused of being a perpetual motion machine.
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To raise the temperature with You need photons that carry a higher energy quantum ( shorter wavelength, coming from a hotter source)...not more photons that carry a lower quantum, (longer wavelength, coming from a cooler source).
Else You could "blue shift" a stationary spot of red light by irradiating this spot with more red light.
Try it out with a dozen 635 nm visible red pen light lasers,...You can by them almost anywhere.
Then bounce them off a surface and show with a monochromator that You got any reflected light with a wavelength shorter than 635 nm , which is "warmer"
It will assure You the next Nobel prize in physics.
Spencer`s claim goes even beyond that, his claim implies that You should be able to create shorter wavelength light with more 750 nm longer wavelength laser light.
Not that he ever attempted that. All he "did" ( if a mere sketch qualifies as "did") is using a non existing hotplate which he says can get hotter if he would place a cold object next to it in a vacuum chamber.
And You are still fool enough to reply here:
That shows not only that neither You nor Spencer don`t even understand how an electric hot plate works, never mind understanding quantum physics.
Spencer`s phantasy hot plate would have to be at an equilibrium temperature before we even begin this foolish experiment right...?
That means that it has settled in at a resistance in Ohms which limits the Power as in (a) Volts * (a) Volts / (b) Ohms =(c) Watts.
a is constant, but I have never seen an electric heater where the resistance (b) in Ohms does not increase but remained constant as the temperature goes up..
How then would You prevent "Spencer`s first plate" which is heated by electricity not to impede the amount of electrical energy which flowed through it
before these back radiation photons from the colder plate heated it up to a higher temperature than the initial equilibrium temperature,...therefore
increasing the Ohms and dropping the Watts of electrical power that had raised it to the equilibrium temperature.
Spencer`s knowledge of physics is not much better than the "Virginia" he is talking about.
Are You by any chance the "Virginia" he is talking about?
SSDD- you have seen Spencer's set up. are you saying that the first plate which is being supplied with a constant input of energy will not have a rise in temperature on the outside surfaces when a second plate is put into the thermos?
I can see that You don`t know, but if Spencer did know that the resistance of his heater goes up as the temperature goes up, then why is he using an electric hot plate...?
I tell You why, because if he would substitute the electric hot plate with a IR radiation source he would have to make the claim
that he can create higher energy short wave light , with lower energy longer wavelength light...which is a perpetual motion variant that uses radiative heat transfer instead of conductive heat transfer
The only thing that Spencer has re-invented is that the rate of cooling can be diminished which still fools You
that this is the same thing as if he had actually warmed something up.
To which You say:
hahahaha!!! that it???? we didn't use your magical phrase 'diminishing radiative transfer'
To which I reply:
After explaining it so many times, even a "Yes Virginia" housewife would know the difference by now, between what a rate of cooling is and actually warming something up to a higher temperature than it was before.
Spencer`s hybrid hot plate, which uses electric energy and some Lalah-land frequency shiftable photons would make every conventional heat source obsolete.
For that matter You would not even need a hot water tank. Maybe if we figure out the technology to do it in a vacuum chamber with reflective walls we could also heat water to 72 C by holding a cup full between 2 hands instead of just grabbing it with one.
The fact that a
perfect black body, which by the way exists only in theory can emit (very few) high energy (short wave) photons at lower temperatures is as un-related as it can get with a "science" that is using a 30-35 % albedo earth as a "black body" and a "Yes Virginia" pseudo-logic.
And by the way CO2 does not emit any photons that are at a
shorter wavelength than
those it absorbed either.
In Spencer`s "Yes Virginia" quantum fraud it should..!!!
