Let me see if I have this right.

[berg80]

He talks like a typical northeast rich guy who has not been in politics. It's one of the reasons he was a good president, honest and truthful.

OMG. He lies about everything all the time and was one of the worst prez's in US history.

 

[Redfish]

There is no such movement to give the vote to illegals
Only citizens vote

It is a RW fantasy

do you live under a rock. Cal is already doing it, NY is trying to do it, DC has a bill to let illegals vote in city elections. you cannot be as dumb as your posts indicate.

 

[rightwinger]

more Bullshit, Putin wants Kamala to win because he knows he can control her.

Kamala Harris is a strong supporter of Ukraine
Hardly in Putin’s corner

Trump is ready to force Ukraine to surrender

 

[berg80]

There is no such movement to give the vote to illegals
Only citizens vote

It is a RW fantasy

Now you've gone and done it. Throwing that kind of reality in their faces causes the kind of cognitive dissonance resulting with them retreating to their hidey hole. Basking in the warm embrace of the lies they've been told to believe.

 

[Redfish]

OMG. He lies about everything all the time and was one of the worst prez's in US history.

ok dingleberry, give us a list of his so-called lies and post them in full context. then do the same for senile joe and cameltoe harris, and you can do bubba and hillary too if you dare.

 

[berg80]

do you live under a rock. Cal is already doing it, NY is trying to do it, DC has a bill to let illegals vote in city elections. you cannot be as dumb as your posts indicate.

Thank you for disproving your own lie.

 

[Redfish]

Kamala Harris is a strong supporter of Ukraine
Hardly in Putin’s corner

Trump is ready to force Ukraine to surrender

more lies, is that all you ever post? Trump wants the dying to stop on both sides, a negotiated peace. Why do you libs think Putin has to be eliminated? Why do you oppose a mutually beneficial relationship with Russia?

 

[Redfish]

Thank you for disproving your own lie.

yes, they start with city elections, then state, then federal. That has been the dem plalybook from the beginning of the open border policy.

 

[Rawley]

Trump doesn’t support that
He wants Ukraine to surrender

He wants' people to stop dying. Is that a bad thing?

 

[Rawley]

Former President Trump stood by his comments that political opponents are the "enemy from within" in a Fox News interview aired Sunday.
The big picture: The GOP nominee has dug his heels in on controversial rhetoric, even as it has garnered scrutiny, while his language becomes darker ahead of Nov. 5.

• Since he suggested in a Fox interview aired last week that the National Guard or military could be used against the "enemy from within," including "radical-left lunatics," in the case of Election Day chaos, Trump has doubled down on his comments.
• He has, on multiple occasions in recent days, named Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as examples of the "enemy."
• In a separate head-turning moment at a Univision town hall Wednesday, Trump downplayed the events of January 6, where around 140 police officers were assaulted, as "a day of love."

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During Trump’s first term, the Justice Department pursued several secret leak investigations into leading news organizations, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, and CNN. In his campaign for a second term, Trump has twice discussed scenarios for jailing journalists in the course of leak investigations and implied that the threat of a prison rape could get them to cough up their sources. “The reporter goes to jail,” Trump said at a November 2022 rally in Ohio. “When the reporter learns that he’s going to be married in two days to a certain prisoner that’s extremely strong, tough, and mean, he will say, ‘You know…I think I’m going to give you the information.’”

This kind of extrajudicial intimidation is indicative of the twisted thinking of mob bosses or hardcore autocrats. But this was a proposal by a former American president. And there is good reason to take him at his word. In Trump’s first term, he tried repeatedly to roll back press freedom. Fortunately, his worst instincts were thwarted by senior officials, the courts, and the media itself. As the former executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, which publicly challenged Trump’s attacks on the free press and proclaimed that the media was not in fact, as he would occasionally refer to the profession, “the enemy of the people,” I like to think I played a small role.

American Journalists Beware: A Second Trump Term Could Pose Very Real Risks

The former director of the Committee to Protect Journalists lays out the grave threats that American news outlets might confront—and offers proactive safeguards.

www.vanityfair.com

Again with the word salad agiprop from TDS reporters. He simply asked you to back up your bullshit with quotes from Trump.

 

[DBA]

He's a natural authoritarian. His flock wants to be led by a strongman. Perfect match.

This time around, he'll be surrounded exclusively by obedient loyalists and powerful oligarchs.

As I always say, the world has seen it before.

Your are speaking in the past tense. Nervous?

You shouldn't be so worried and have faith in the Democratic Party's ability to chea..., I mean, secure, the votes they need to win the election.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Russia will not allow NATO in Ukraine.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Again with the word salad agiprop from TDS reporters. He simply asked you to back up your bullshit with quotes from Trump.

Enemy democrats make up quotes from Trump as they go along

 

[berg80]

ok dingleberry, give us a list of his so-called lies and post them in full context. then do the same for senile joe and cameltoe harris, and you can do bubba and hillary too if you dare.

Google it.

yes, they start with city elections, then state, then federal. That has been the dem plalybook from the beginning of the open border policy.

Gosh, where have I heard that before. Ah yes, I remember, it's the same old cry wolf lie Repubs/NRA have been telling for decades about the Dems "coming for your guns!"

 

[rightwinger]

He wants' people to stop dying. Is that a bad thing?

Why doesn’t he ask Putin to withdraw then?
That would stop it

 

[rightwinger]

Russia will not allow NATO in Ukraine.

They don’t get a vote

It wasn’t necessary until Russia invaded

 

[rightwinger]

yes, they start with city elections, then state, then federal. That has been the dem plalybook from the beginning of the open border policy.

Nobody has allowed illegals to vote or even proposed it

 

[Mac-7]

Former President Trump stood by his comments that political opponents are the "enemy from within" in a Fox News interview aired Sunday.
The big picture: The GOP nominee has dug his heels in on controversial rhetoric, even as it has garnered scrutiny, while his language becomes darker ahead of Nov. 5.

• Since he suggested in a Fox interview aired last week that the National Guard or military could be used against the "enemy from within," including "radical-left lunatics," in the case of Election Day chaos, Trump has doubled down on his comments.
• He has, on multiple occasions in recent days, named Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as examples of the "enemy."
• In a separate head-turning moment at a Univision town hall Wednesday, Trump downplayed the events of January 6, where around 140 police officers were assaulted, as "a day of love."

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Now you are shifting the goalposts

Trump has not threatened to jail journalists for criticizing him

 

[berg80]

Now you are shifting the goalposts

Trump has not threatened to jail journalists for criticizing him

Even worse.

Trump thinks Politico journalists should be jailed. This should be a turning point

The former president oversaw a steady decline in press freedom during his term in office

www.the-independent.com

 

[eagle7-31]

If trump is elected he's going to have RFK Jr. "go wild" on the US healthcare system.

Trump says he would let RFK Jr. 'go wild on medicines'
https://www.politico.com/video/2024...would-let-rfk-jr-go-wild-on-medicines-1466853

For the most part, Donald Trump has been mum on who he’d appoint to his administration if he wins.
But he has made one pretty clear promise: Trump has said he’ll let conspiracy theorist and vaccine skeptic Robert F. Kennedy Jr. “go wild” on health, food, and drug regulation. That could have massive consequences for public health and vaccine policy in America. If Kennedy were to completely get his way and deter vaccination, vaccine-preventable diseases like measles and polio could make a comeback.
Trump really could empower RFK Jr. to wreck public health

Elon Musk, trump's future budget czar, says the country needs to brace for hardship, a metaphor for the economy needing to be crashed.

Elon Musk asks voters to brace for economic 'hardship,' deep spending cuts in potential Trump Cabinet role

“We have to reduce spending to live within our means,” Musk said. “And, you know, that necessarily involves some temporary hardship, but it will ensure long-term prosperity.”

Many economists agree that Trump’s economic and fiscal proposals could spark an economic calamity, though it is not clear whether they have considered, or given credence, to Musk’s calls for austerity.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/ec...-could-mean-hardship-for-americans-rcna177807

And the Orange Menace plans to suspend the constitutional rights of journalists and those suspected of breaking the law by prosecuting media critics and allowing law enforcement to really rough up criminals in retaliation for what they've done or accused of doing.

Trump says ‘violent day’ of policing will end crime
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/29/trump-violent-day-policing-crime-00181619

New Trump admin would try to prosecute journalists, former Trump adviser says
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/06/politics/kash-patel-trump-administration/index.html

If protests break out over journalists being jailed or economic "hardship" he's prepared to use the military to deal with it.

Trump suggests he’ll use the military on ‘the enemy from within’ the U.S. if he’s reelected
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...he-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected

During his first term as president, Donald Trump tested the limits of how he could use the military to achieve policy goals. If given a second term, the Republican and his allies are preparing to go much further, reimagining the military as an all-powerful tool to deploy on U.S. soil.

He has pledged to recall thousands of American troops from overseas and station them at the U.S. border with Mexico. He has explored using troops for domestic policy priorities such as deportations and confronting civil unrest. He has talked of weeding out military officers who are ideologically opposed to him.

Trump’s vision amounts to a potentially dramatic shift in the role of the military in U.S. society, carrying grave implications for both the country’s place in the world and the restraints that have traditionally been placed on domestic use of the military.
I find all this to be suboptimal. For trump supporters, it seems they have a choice to make. Vote for what he has promised, or believe he's lying about it.

Begging the question, if he's lying, if he doesn't plan on doing the things he says he is, what is his motivation for saying them?

Can trump supporters see why some Americans reject his vision for the next 4 years?

As usual your left wing talking points are off base.