Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

[Chuz Life]

Do you agree that legalized abortion has an effect of devaluing life in a society that sees abortions as anything less than a violation of the basic human rights of the children that are denied and killed?

Here is a link to a news story that I feel illustrates the point very well.

MSN

Feel free to provide other examples and discuss (Zone 1 style.)

 

[Chuz Life]

Do you agree that legalized abortion has an effect of devaluing life in a society that sees abortions as anything less than a violation of the basic human rights of the children that are denied and killed?

Here is a link to a news story that I feel illustrates the point very well.

MSN

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Feel free to provide other examples and discuss (Zone 1 style.)

Man killed pregnant girlfriend in her car because she refused to get an abortion: Cops​

 

[Chuz Life]

Do you agree that legalized abortion has an effect of devaluing life in a society that sees abortions as anything less than a violation of the basic human rights of the children that are denied and killed?

Here is a link to a news story that I feel illustrates the point very well.

MSN

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Feel free to provide other examples and discuss (Zone 1 style.)

This one doesn't surprise me at all.

"Rivera’s friends testified at her killer’s trial that Rivera was delighted to be having a baby. Apparently her 20-year-old boyfriend, Nathaniel Dee Smith, was not. Police say Smith murdered Rivera because she refused to have an abortion and he didn’t want to pay child support. Smith was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. (The Oklahoman, 6/2/99)"

The Many Faces of Coercion • AfterAbortion.org

Lorena Rivera, a 21-year-old legal receptionist, disappeared while on her way to work in Oklahoma City in April 1997. More than a month later, her body was found buried in a shallow grave. Rivera, 21 weeks pregnant and the mother of a three-year-old son, had been shot twice and beaten to death...

afterabortion.org

 

[Chuz Life]

Then there is this angle.

Laughing and singing about (funny?) not remembering how many abortions one has had.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[toobfreak]

Do you agree that legalized abortion has an effect of devaluing life in a society that sees abortions as anything less than a violation of the basic human rights of the children that are denied and killed?

It goes without saying that the only, inevitable result of making life cheap by making it a public institution to abort children on a factor assembly line like so much unwanted hair at a barber is to cheapen and devalue life.

How could abortion do anything else?

 

[Chuz Life]

An example of when Abortion Butchers themselves - Own it!

 

[Chuz Life]

Pregnant Woman Was Allegedly Killed by Navy Officer — and Family Says It Happened After She Refused Abortion

Raquiah Paulette King, 20, was discovered July 21 in Hanover County off the side of the road in the ditch line

people.com

 

[Chuz Life]

But But. . . . Nobody is literally "pro-abortion!"

Here's a twist!

Really?

How about making the point with humor?

60 Funny Abortion Jokes That Are Funny AF (no Kidding)

Our bold and irreverent collection of abortion jokes will make you laugh, regardless of your stance on the contentious issue of abortion.

humornama.com

 

[Chuz Life]

Another example of how legalized abortion Devalues human life and actually incentivizes predatory abuse members of society to use abortion AND its legality to children and sometimes the mothers too. . . as a result of that devaluation.

 

[1srelluc]

No shits given about "a woman's right to choose"....That's just cover for spreading their leg to all cummers.

No shits given about the white holy rollers that whine about abortion but avail themselves of it when it suits them.

I'm all in for the utility of abortion.....The very last thing that this country needs is more fatherless children. It's bad enough in that regard as it is given the tremendous cost to what is left of our society.

I don't know about you but I'm tired of paying out the ass for when other's fatherless crotch fruit go bad.

 

[Chuz Life]

No shits given about "a woman's right to choose"....That's just cover for spreading their leg to all cummers.

No shits given about the white holy rollers that whine about abortion but avail themselves of it when it suits them.

I'm all in for the utility of abortion.....The very last thing that this country needs is more fatherless children. It's bad enough in that regard as it is given the tremendous cost to what is left of our society.

I don't know about you but I'm tired of paying out the ass for when other's fatherless crotch fruit go bad.

Very informative.

May I conclude from that - that you have a little less value of human life, given that they COULD have or should have just as easily been aborted and that might save you some money?

 

[Chuz Life]

From an actual study on the issue (though obviously not intended)

"While women did not report regretting their decision, many did struggle initially to make it. Just over half said the decision to terminate their pregnancy was very difficult (27 percent) or somewhat difficult (27 percent), while the rest (46 percent) said it was not difficult. About 70 percent also reported feeling they would be stigmatized by their communities if people knew they had sought an abortion, with 29 percent reporting low levels and 31 percent reporting high levels of community stigma.

Those who struggled with their decisions or felt stigmatized were more likely to experience sadness, guilt and anger shortly after obtaining the abortion. Over time, however, the number of women reporting these negative emotions declined dramatically, particularly in the first year after their abortion. This was also true for those who initially struggled with their decision. "

Archive: Five Years After Abortion, Nearly All Women Say It Was the Right Decision, Study Finds

Five years after having an abortion, over 95 percent of the women in a landmark UCSF study said it was the right decision for them.

www.ucsf.edu

Conditioned responses.

 

[Chuz Life]

Another example of the mindset.

Right out of their playbook!

How To Argue Pro Choice: 11 Arguments Against Abortion Access, Debunked

So you're talking to someone who says something ignorant. And while you know that they're in the wrong, your words escape you. To make sure that doesn't happen, we've compiled a series of reference guides with the most common arguments — and your…

www.bustle.com

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Congrats on creating another thread beating a dead horse. The issue has been decided. States have the right to restrict abortions if they choose to do so. Others do not have to restrict it.

 

[Chuz Life]

Let's consider another perspective on this;

Use of Aborted Fetal Tissue in Vaccines and Medical Research Obscures the Value of All Human Life - PMC

This opinion addresses the licitness, quasi-benefits, and consequences of using aborted fetal tissue in vaccines and in medical research. The Catholic Church permits temporary use of vaccines generated using aborted fetal tissue to protect children ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Chuz Life]

Congrats on creating another thread beating a dead horse. The issue has been decided. States have the right to restrict abortions if they choose to do so. Others do not have to restrict it.

Really?

Where are the other threads that attempt to focus on how legalized abortion devalues life in general? Especially in the text of the OP?

 

[Chuz Life]

The Hollywood Affirmation

From: The 1916 silent film Where Are My Children?
"was the first U.S. film to portray abortion onscreen, depicting both the pro-eugenicist and anti-abortion sentiments frequently found in discussions of family planning at the time. The film follows Richard Walton, a district attorney, and his wife Edith. While Richard prosecutes doctors for obscenity for promoting birth control, Edith is secretly obtaining abortions so that pregnancy and children won't interfere with her socialite lifestyle. Edith also encourages other women to get abortions, including her maid's young daughter, who dramatically dies from a botched abortion. When Richard discovers this, he accuses Edith and her friends of manslaughter. The film ends with Edith and Richard confronting future loneliness, deprived of the children they could have had."

To: BET

"Following the precedent of Obvious Child, Netflix's BoJack Horseman takes the approach that abortion can be funny. After social-media-manager-for-the-stars Diane accidentally tweets that pop star Sextina Aquafina is getting an abortion, Sextina embraces the mistake—even going so far as to release a single "Get That Fetus/Kill That Fetus." The episode follows both Diane's (real) abortion and Sextina's (fake) abortion with humor and (some) sensitivity. The episode openly challenges abortion stigma, and acknowledges humor as a valid way of processing personal decisions and tackling fraught social issues."

A Century of Abortion Onscreen, 1916-2016

www.ansirh.org

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Really?

Where are the other threads that attempt to focus on how legalized abortion devalues life in general? Especially in the text of the OP?

Your premise doesn't matter. The law is decided. Learn to live with it, because your vagina aching will not change anything.

Hence the dead horse you are beating.

 

[Chuz Life]

Your premise doesn't matter. The law is decided. Learn to live with it, because your vagina aching will not change anything.

Hence the dead horse you are beating.

This still you?

Post in thread 'Abortion laws'

Nov 10, 2018

I don't know about paradox but I would state that the results are not relevant here. The abortion debate is not over the best way to limit unwanted pregnancies or reduce overall abortions - it is centered around personal rights and government powers/responsibility.

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I guess that applies to murder also. It is a personal decision to end a human life, just like abortion.

• Admiral Rockwell Tory

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This still you?

Post in thread 'Abortion laws'

Nov 10, 2018

I don't know about paradox but I would state that the results are not relevant here. The abortion debate is not over the best way to limit unwanted pregnancies or reduce overall abortions - it is centered around personal rights and government powers/responsibility.

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I guess that applies to murder also. It is a personal decision to end a human life, just like abortion.

• Admiral Rockwell Tory

The laws have been changed and Roe v. Wade overturned. Did you miss that little tidbit?

That post was from almost 7 years ago.