Today we also heard from Abby Grossberg, the former booking producer at Fox News who has sued her former employer. She gave an interview to Nicolle Wallace on
Deadline: White House, and it was a bombshell. First off, it’s important to acknowledge that Grossberg is no hero. She said in the interview that she had been willing to lie under oath in a deposition to save her job. In fact, her entire time at Fox seems to have revolved around a desire to avoid killing off her career in an environment that valued her almost less than it valued the truth of what it told its viewers on air. There is no exception to the obligation to be truthful in a court proceeding for people who are afraid that their job is at risk, but it took bravery to come forward and tell the truth. Grossberg candidly said she did it, when she realized she was being set up to take the fall for the entire Dominion complaint.
There’s space here to feel a little empathy for the position Grossberg was in. But the reality is, she took the job voluntarily and says she stayed because she believed in Maria Bartiromo, until she left her show to work for Tucker Carlson, in part because she thought his status would provide her with protection. That she didn’t flee when Carlson started lying about fraud and the outcome of the 2020 election—which she knew about; it was her notes and tapes of pre-interviews that brought the evidence that Fox tried to conceal to light—suggests a level of complicity. It’s complicated, though. Grossberg was also, according to her complaint, working in a hostile environment that was saturated with conduct that demeaned and belittled women. That can impact judgment. Fox has said her allegations are wrong and can be disproven. They said that at the outset of the Dominion case too. Time will tell.
But something that is clear is that whether Grossberg’s lawsuit was the precursor to Carlson’s sudden departure from the network or not, the environment there was formidably hostile to women. What must his wife and his daughters think? Grossberg’s complaint says that Carlson expressed the following opinions:
- That arranged marriages between adults and children are not rape because “the rapist” makes a lifelong commitment to take care of his victim
- That sex workers are sluts
- That he would “love” the idea of 14-year-old girls experimenting sexually with each other, although he really shouldn’t where his own daughters’ school was involved
Carroll and Grossberg’s lawsuits have both captured public attention at a time when it’s become clear that it’s open season on women’s rights in parts of this country. There’s
Dobbs. There’s
the failure to make the Equal Rights Amendment the law of the land. There’s the ascension to the Supreme Court of a woman who was, literally, a handmaid. And Tucker Carlson was permitted by Fox to stay in place as one of the most-watched cable news hosts in the country until Monday despite the knowledge that he had said women are “extremely primitive, they’re basic, they’re not that hard to understand.”

Back in March 2021, no less of a staid institution than
the Pentagon felt compelled to rebuked Carlson for saying, “So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits—pregnant women are going to fight our wars. It’s a mockery of the U.S. military.” He made those comments after two women—Gen. Jacqueline D. Van Ovost of the Air Force and Lt. Gen. Laura J. Richardson of the Army—were nominated to lead combat commands. Tucker Carlson, who never served a day in uniform in his life and was
reportedly rejectedwhen he applied for a job with the CIA after college, had the temerity to criticize high ranking military personnel because they are women.
The Pentagon tweeted this to drive home the point.

But the damage has been done. Misogyny has seeped into the mainstream of modern life. Someday, historians may look back and conclude there were many people in post-Trump America suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. Women certainly are. They knew early—they organized the nationwide women’s marches the day after his inauguration. Today they’re living with the consequences of that administration, Trump’s contempt for women, reversals of legal rights, and a general acceptance of attitudes that shouldn’t be tolerated. Consider doing something to support the women around you today, like the tweet the Pentagon sent out. There are women who’ve toughed it out and kept fighting for what’s right in a difficult time. There’s a bit of a hostile environment, nationally, for women, and we’re all feeling it. Let’s make sure we take care of each other.
E. Jean Carroll and Abby Grossberg
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