Clueless...the British said with homegrown growers making their marijuana more potent, they are now seeing mental problems pop up in some users.
Marijuana growing has become such a lucrative business for Joe Schmoe that he is trying to make his drugs get more bang for the buck, which in turn can make them worse for certain people using that drug.
Any tobacco, alcohol or marijuana producer wants his product to get the user a bigger high and many times that causes unseen side effects.
Thank you for bringing it up about how much stronger the weed has become and the repercussions that come with that strength.
The little counterclaim studies from back in the 70s and 80s are about a different drug. This one is a 2.0 level intoxicant. Please read the link. I wish it were better news, but instead, it's a 3-point alarm people can't hear, because they remember the buzz of the 60s and 70s, so when their children are using new marijuana/hashish, they don't have a clue what their children are getting into. They think in terms of their pleasant experience, not in terms of what their kids are experiencing, which is a much more intense high. It is getting to be a hard drug, and from what I'm hearing, they're working on making it a higher high yet.
The trouble with growers putting a product like marijuana on the market, they want that buzz to be competitive with the other guy. They all have to have the good stuff to keep their customers.
Again with the selective quoting, Becki??
From your linked article...
According to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration, marijuana was involved in 242,200 visits to hospital emergency rooms in 2005. This means that the patient mentioned using marijuana and does not mean the drug directly caused the accident or condition being treated, SAMHSA says.
And where your 'report' said...
The report said more than 60 percent of teens receiving treatment for drug abuse or dependence report marijuana as their primary drug of abuse.
It does NOT say that marijuana is the drug that they are in treatment for. And it won't say it, either, because it would be a LIE.
Apparently you failed to read where 50 to 60% of the ER visits by teens for drug issues are related to marijuana. That is the TRUTH.
This is a complex issue. We are not allowed to drag every single solitary word that is printed here. I do my best to bring enough so that people will understand that there is a problem. People only see what they want to see. They don't see the fine print, Guy, and I'm not dishonest about what I did bring here.
This is not politics. One eensey weensey bit of good that
one of the 400+ known chemicals in cannabis because it suppresses cancer cells is nice to know, unfortunately that is not the entire picture. Even knowing every detail about the damaging part of marijuana, people are going to see your video that you posted about its one property of "being a cure for cancer," and they're going to think they're going to save $15,000 dollars by not treating it medically by going to the merrijane pharma and spending $200 a month on merrijane, and like Steve Jobs realized his last 2 or 3 days, he took the
wrong way to cure his cancer "naturally", and the price he paid for that mistake was his whole life.
I couldn't possibly in good conscience post that sales pitch you posted, because of what I know about the other part of the marijuana plant that you are firmly eschewing in your thinking about my lack of thoroughness or obfuscation of what YOU already brought out to the tenth power.
The reason that video is so sinister is that it totally spaces out that little word I used a few posts back called "synergy." One or more of the chemicals act together to make other drugs or factors a few times more effective, and even effective exponentially. Unfortunately, when the person smokes marijuana or eats marijuana brownies DOES NOT UNDERSTAND that if he drinks alcohol, even a small amount, he may get drunker than when he went on his last 3-day binge. If he smokes a few cigarettes a day, the synergistic property of marijuana induces a 7-pack a day burden on the lungs resulting in a condition called mesoplasia (aka pre-cancer), and it doesn't take 30 years, either. The drugs in marijuana also suppress the immune system. If you've ever known someone with an autoimmune illness (arthritis, neuralgia, diabetes, fibromyalgia, MS, etc.) you're aware before too many moons pass that that person catches every cold, flu bug, and food toxin reaction that comes down the pike that most people can fight off. That's what suppressing the immune system means. That little cut on the foot can turn to gangrene in a new york minute. The sinus infection most people get rid of in less than a week can turn into meningitis in a matter of hours. On and on.
Please promise yourself you'll never show that video again. It's a pipe dream that hasn't happened yet, because it would take a factory bigger than Monsanto's old 50s places to isolate all 400+ chemicals, put them in vials for testing, and millions to see what each property does and know without any questions the whats, whys and wherefores of these substances acting together.
We don't know why some people get addicted to drugs, and the free wheeling crowd of the late 60s and 70s do not know that their grandchildren are facing a completely different drug than the one that gave them a pleasant buzz and heightened their experiences temporarily. Kids have more fat on their bodies because they watch tv and write on computers all day long and don't go out and find something interesting to do with just a ball, a stick, pets, and other toys. They're a sedentary bunch, and fat holds in a number of the drugs in cannabinoids a lot longer than the thinner kids of the 60s.
What chemicals are in marijuana and its byproducts?
General Reference (not clearly pro or con)
Oakley Ray, PhD, Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Pharmacology at Vanderbilt University, and Charles Ksir, PhD, Professor of Psychology at the University of Wyoming, noted in their 2004 textbook Drugs, Society and Human Behavior:
"The chemistry of Cannabis is quite complex, and the isolation and extraction of the active ingredient are difficult even today. The active agent in Cannabis is unique among psychoactive plant materials in that it contains no nitrogen and thus is not an alkaloid. Because Cannabis lacks nitrogen, the 19th century chemists who had been so successful in isolating the active agents from other plants were unable to identify its active component.
There are over 400 chemicals in marijuana, but only 61 [80 as of July 9, 2009; see Editor's Note below] of them are unique to the Cannabis plant -- these are called cannabinoids. One of them, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), was isolated and synthesized in 1964 and is clearly the most pharmacologically active.
Take special note that the relationship of THC to Cannabis is probably more similar to the relationship of mescaline to peyote then of alcohol to beer, wine, or distilled spirits. Alcohol is the only behaviorally active agent in alcoholic beverages, but there might be several active agents in Cannabis." [Editor's Note: Mohamed M. Radwan, Mahmoud A. ElSohly, et al., researchers at the University of Mississippi, reported the discovery of nine new cannabinoids in their Apr. 3, 2009 study titled "Biologically Active Cannabinoids from High-Potency Cannabis Sativa," published in the Journal of Natural Products. This discovery brings the total number of cannabinoids to about 80, according to an Apr. 12, 2009 bulletin published by the International Association for Cannabis as Medicine.]
Mr. Pinestra, I'm only a seamstress who had the blessing of good teachers at a college I never graduated from since my family moved across the continent twice, and I finally had to settle on a different career than one in health that I studied my brains out for 4 years, and we moved my senior year to a place where the nearest 4-year school was 167 miles away, and their health department refused to accept trimester credits in their 2-semester schema, plus I couldn't leave my children along for that long. It doesn't matter how smart ya are, if you have a 13-year old child headed for the skids, you stay home and mind the hearth fires, making sure child is being suitably supervised and cared for.
I can't out-argue you. You can take facts, twist them a few times and pretty much come out with the outcome you like, and there's no way I could ever be as persuasive and convincing as the "evidence" in the sales pitch for a cancer cure video that was in its best light balderdash, and in its true light, an invitation to death for someone with certain kinds of cancer in an advanced state due to having synergistic problems mixing drugs, alcohol, nicotine, cannabis, and hairspray or whatever. I'd really urge you to urge people to take stuff like that with a grain or two of salt. You saw hope for mankind. I saw a salesman who'd convinced himself he was going to save mankind and get rich, too all at the same time, gray suit, personable, smiling, confident. People buy that kinda shit. They just do. They'll even put aside the knowledge of the best doctors in the world to cling to the hope of a cure as easy and cheap as going to MacDonald's. The short straw is drawn if the cancer is at a certain stage. That should be the role of a doctor to determine a more appropriate panacea.
Good night. You can have this thread, I've said all I plan on saying, so take my poorly-stated apart piece by piece. I don't care. I've possibly made a typo or two, you can dwell on that. But I do have one thing on my side, I care that people are not further harmed by what I would ever say that would give them even the slightest impression a hard drug unprescribed, of differing potencies, would give them a uniform gift of health when in fact, cancer takes a dive with appropriate treatment from cancer specialists, which somewhere back there I linked. MD Anderson if you want to Bing! or google it.
I can't fault people for not knowing what they don't know--in addition to the pharmacological properties of weed, there's a scarier side--the social side that is as different as people are, and that's the rub. Encouragement by peers becomes more important than parental encouragement in child development at a certain point. That's about the time the child either picks or refrains from picking bad choices in life.
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