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That's what I tell the young kids who think Lebron is the GOAT. This is coming from a person who hated Jordan. He broke up my Bad Boys. He won his first ring. Okay cool he beat the Lakers. But then he beat Portland and the Suns. I rooted against him. Prayed he would fail just once. But he didn't. It was so nice when he took a break. But then he came back. I rooted for Seattle, they failed. I rooted for Utah, they failed, TWICE. I was sure that last one Jordan was going to fall short. Come on just once? Nope. Not the GOAT. Not freakin once.I don't recall Jordan choking as often as LeBron has.
Jordan broke the Cavaliers more than once.That's what I tell the young kids who think Lebron is the GOAT. This is coming from a person who hated Jordan. He broke up my Bad Boys. He won his first ring. Okay cool he beat the Lakers. But then he beat Portland and the Suns. I rooted against him. Prayed he would fail just once. But he didn't. It was so nice when he took a break. But then he came back. I rooted for Seattle, they failed. I rooted for Utah, they failed, TWICE. I was sure that last one Jordan was going to fall short. Come on just once? Nope. Not the GOAT. Not freakin once.
Jordan broke the Cavaliers more than once.
And I don't think he ever choked. LeBron, OTOH, could disappear in an important game. He'd look like a deer in the headlights or completely bored.
I will always be SO grateful for him in 2016, but even then, Kyrie made the winning shot.
All true. LeBron is great, no question about it, but he's no GOAT.Why do I remember Lebron's beginnings so differently than reality? I thought he got to the finals every year but just lost. It felt like he dominated the East before he left Cleveland the first time but that's not true.
2007 Lebron got Cleveland to the finals. Boston and Orlando beat Lebron the next 3 years to go to the finals.
Then he joined the Heat and they lost to Dallas. FINALLY with Wade and Bosch he had enough to win a championship. Should have been 4 in a row for Miami instead it was just a repeat. But went to the finals 4 years in a row.
Then 2015-2018 the guy took Cleveland to the finals 4 years in a row? That's what I must be remembering.
Then he won one in LA.
Finals 4 years in a row, finals again 4 years in a row. It's not winning 3 peats two times in a row. Clearly that's better but still. Finals 4 years in a row twice is pretty impressive.
The dudes been relevant for 20 years.
Russell. 11What do you say? Is Lebron or Michael the GOAT in the NBA? I say it's still about the number of championships. That's why Nicklaus is the GOAT in golf and Brady is the GOAT in football and Michael is the GOAT of the NBA. Lebron has a case given his longevity and 4 rings with 3 different teams. But the number is still SIX set by Michael.
So, now it's about scoring?That's different. He wasn't even the lead scorer on that team.
Bill Russell did not lead the Celtics in scoring; he focused on defense and rebounding, while teammates like Tom Heinsohn, Sam Jones, and John Havlicek handled the primary scoring duties. While Russell is the team's all-time leading rebounder, John Havlicek is the Celtics' all-time leading scorer, followed by Paul Pierce and Larry Bird.

I've heard that. I'd say no, he played on a totally stacked team against weaker competition. An all-time great defensive center, but I don't see him as the GOAT.Russell. 11
Case closed.
If it’s the number of rings neither of the is tne GOAT.What do you say? Is Lebron or Michael the GOAT in the NBA? I say it's still about the number of championships. That's why Nicklaus is the GOAT in golf and Brady is the GOAT in football and Michael is the GOAT of the NBA. Lebron has a case given his longevity and 4 rings with 3 different teams. But the number is still SIX set by Michael.
Jordon was a degenerate. What are you taking about?He is good, but he is no Jordan. He doesnt have the rings, or the character.
Maybe the NBA needs an OLD GOAT (Russell) and a NEW GOAT (Jordan/James)If it’s the number of rings neither of the is tne GOAT.