Leading Gay Activst Frank Kameny Says: "Bestiality OK 'as Long as the Animal Doesn't

[WinterBorn]

Not quite off topic. If you are a muslim who uses their religion to answer all their questions, and demands that everyone follow those answers, then it explains your unscientific, unorthodox, and unschooled responses in this thread.

 

[whitehall]

Go ahead and marry your freaking horse or your dog. I don't give a sh-t unless you expect me to contribute to financing your marital bliss.

 

[Sunni Man]

Not quite off topic. If you are a muslim who uses their religion to answer all their questions, and demands that everyone follow those answers, then it explains your unscientific, unorthodox, and unschooled responses in this thread.

My answers have nothing to do with my religion.

Long before I converted to Islam.

It was apparent to me that homosexuality was a mental illness and a sick perverted lifestyle.

btw As for your claim that I am unschooled; I have a BA in Psychology.

 

[WinterBorn]

Not quite off topic. If you are a muslim who uses their religion to answer all their questions, and demands that everyone follow those answers, then it explains your unscientific, unorthodox, and unschooled responses in this thread.

My answers have nothing to do with my religion.

Long before I converted to Islam.

It was apparent to me that homosexuality was a mental illness and a sick perverted lifestyle.

btw As for your claim that I am unschooled; I have a BA in Psychology.

I'm sure you do.

 

[nitroz]

Not quite off topic. If you are a muslim who uses their religion to answer all their questions, and demands that everyone follow those answers, then it explains your unscientific, unorthodox, and unschooled responses in this thread.

My answers have nothing to do with my religion.

Long before I converted to Islam.

It was apparent to me that homosexuality was a mental illness and a sick perverted lifestyle.

btw As for your claim that I am unschooled; I have a BA in Psychology.

 

[Sunni Man]

Go ahead and marry your freaking horse or your dog. I don't give a sh-t unless you expect me to contribute to financing your marital bliss.

First these sub humans with follow the example of the homos and want Civil Unions with their animal lovers.

Then later advocate for marriage.

These are some very sick and deranged people.

 

[WinterBorn]

Go ahead and marry your freaking horse or your dog. I don't give a sh-t unless you expect me to contribute to financing your marital bliss.

First these sub humans with follow the example of the homos and want Civil Unions with their animal lovers.

Then later advocate for marriage.

These are some very sick and deranged people.

This is just a scare tactic that you are trying to attach to gays.

The key point of it is consenting adults. No one is allowing marriage without consent. So when you figure out how they can get consent from animals, let me know. I might worry.

 

[rdean]

I wrote this article to illustrate the absurdity of arguments and tactics used by the gay agenda. The following arguments may seem bizarre to you, however, these are the same arguments that gay activists use to justify the normalization of homosexuality through gay marriage.

The following is an excerpt from an article from americansfortruth.com:

Frank Kameny — the "gay" pioneer revered by homosexual activists for his role in pressuring the American Psychiatric Association to effectively reclassify homosexuals as normal — now says that sex with animals is OK "as long as the animal doesn't mind.".......
........Kameny wrote: If bestiality with consenting animals provides happiness to some people, let them pursue their happiness......
......Kameny wrote: The term "sexual perversion" is devoid of objective meaning.... Dr. Thomas Szasz aptly and correctly defined "sexual perversion" as: "Any sexual practice disapproved of by the speaker.".......

......Last year, Kameny — a leader in the pressure campaign to declassify homosexuality as a psychiatric mental disorder — was honored by the Smithsonian Institution. His 1965 protest signs (and button with the "Gay Is Good" slogan he coined) will be displayed at the National Museum of American History, and his papers will be archived at the Library of Congress.

Here is the link to the entire article:
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The above article confirms that there was substantial pressure, during the 60's and 70's, on the psychiatric profession to declassify homosexuality as a mental disorder. This is significant because it was gay activists, not trained psychiatrists, that brought this pressure to bear which resulted in declassifying homosexuality as a mental disorder.

The same man who was instrumental in "normalizing" homosexuality", Frank Kameny, is now advocating for the normalization of bestiality. Maybe we should re-think decisions made based on pressure groups organized by this man.

A mind that alters, alters all.
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The following excerpts are from an article entitled: "Those Who Practice Bestiality Say They're Part of the Next Sexual Rights Movement"
Being a "zoophile" in modern American society, Beck says, is "like being gay in the 1950s. You feel like you have to hide, that if you say it out loud, people will look at you like a freak."......"What's the point of living if we have to hide who we are?"

Now Beck believes he and other members of this minority sexual orientation, who often call themselves "zoos," can follow the same path as the gay rights movement. Most researchers believe 2 to 8 percent of the population harbors forbidden desires toward animals, and Beck hopes this minority group can begin appealing to the open-minded for acceptance.......

.......The internet also makes zoophiles accessible for the first time. They can be found in chatrooms, through websites that advocate their cause, and virtual-reality meetups.

As this group gains confidence, zoophiles figure to be more open and then more outspoken in their demands for personal liberty and against discrimination. Improbable as it may seem, zoophiles might yet prove the new frontier in the battle for sexual civil rights

As cave drawings will attest, there's a carnal desire in some humans to lie with beasts. And though many civilizations have tried, none has been able to eradicate it, much to the frustration of organizations such as the Humane Society of the United States........

......By introducing bills that bring more formal punishment, policymakers have triggered a debate they might not have anticipated: the question of whether bestiality belongs with pedophilia as they assume or whether some acts of humans having sex with animals are victimless......

Here is the link to the entire article: Those Who Practice Bestiality Say They're Part of the Next Sexual Rights Movement - Page 1 - News - Broward/Palm Beach - New Times Broward-Palm Beach

These arguments may seem bizarre to you, however, these are the same arguments that gay activists use to justify the normalization of homosexuality through gay marriage.

In reality, I believe that the normalization of sexual relationships between species is just as absurd as the normalization of sexual relationships between same sex couples though gay marriage.

I wrote this comment to illustrate the absurdity of arguments and tactics used by the gay agenda. No offense was intended.

Did you bother following your links? I ended up at a site that says:

Welcome to Americans for Truth, a national organization devoted exclusively to exposing and countering the homosexual activist agenda.

Yea, so the proof that gay guy, who ever he is, said those things comes from this site.

Issues » Americans for Truth

 

[nitroz]

Go ahead and marry your freaking horse or your dog. I don't give a sh-t unless you expect me to contribute to financing your marital bliss.

First these sub humans with follow the example of the homos and want Civil Unions with their animal lovers.

Then later advocate for marriage.

These are some very sick and deranged people.

This is true.

But if you really do have a BA in Psychology (lol), you would know full and well that Homosexuality is not perversion, pedophilia, and bestiality.


Claiming to have a degree in Psychology is hypocritical of you since you spew prejudice and hate against gays and jews.




Plus if you do have one, then please prove so. I'd like to look up your practice (if you have one) and report you for malpractice.

 

[nitroz]

btw As for your claim that I am unschooled; I have a BA in Psychology.

First these sub humans with follow the example of the homos and want Civil Unions with their animal lovers.

 

[Sunni Man]

Plus if you do have one, then please prove so. I'd like to look up your practice (if you have one) and report you for malpractice.

Treating patients to cure them of their homosexuality is not malpractice.

There are many Doctor's and other health professionals who offer as part of their practice revision therapy in order to free homo's from their disease ridden perverse lifestyle.

 

[WinterBorn]

Plus if you do have one, then please prove so. I'd like to look up your practice (if you have one) and report you for malpractice.

Treating patients to cure them of their homosexuality is not malpractice.

There are many Doctor's and other health professionals who offer as part of their practice revision therapy in order to free homo's from their disease ridden perverse lifestyle.

I thought the practice of trying to "cure" homosexuals was virtually extinct, except for a few religious wackos.

 

[Sunni Man]

One reason why homosexuals are so rarely cured is that they rarely try treatment. Too many of them actually believe that they are happy and satisfied the way they are. Another reason, says Philadelphia's Dr. Samuel B. Hadden, is that too many psychiatrists are still inhibited by the 45-year-old pessimism of Freud, who was convinced that the condition was discouragingly difficult to treat. Even when psychiatrists do try to aid homosexuals, their efforts are likely to be ineffectual because they themselves have so little confidence of success

Read more: Psychiatry: Homosexuals Can Be Cured - TIME

 

[Sunni Man]

Former APA President Supports NARTH's Mission Statement, Assails APA's Intolerance....

Former President of the American Psychological Association Robert Perloff was the keynote speaker at the annual NARTH Conference, which was held in Washington, DC

Dr. Perloff is the Distinguished Service Professor Emeritus of Business Administration and of Psychology at the Joseph M. Katz Graduate School of Business, University of Pittsburgh.

The former APA president's lecture -- entitled "Free to Choose" -- received a standing ovation from the conference participants. The gathering at the Washington's Wyndham Hotel comprised the largest attendance of any NARTH Conference.

Dr. Perloff began his lecture by emphasizing the importance of client self-determination, a cornerstone value of all of the mental health professions. He stated,

"I am here as the champion of one's right to choose ... It is my fervent belief that freedom of choice should govern one's sexual orientation ... If homosexuals choose to transform their sexuality into heterosexuality, that resolve and decision is theirs and theirs alone, and should not be tampered with by any special interest group -- including the gay community..."

Former APA President Supports NARTH's Mission Statement, Assails APA's Intolerance....

 

[nitroz]

One reason why homosexuals are so rarely cured is that they rarely try treatment. Too many of them actually believe that they are happy and satisfied the way they are. Another reason, says Philadelphia's Dr. Samuel B. Hadden, is that too many psychiatrists are still inhibited by the 45-year-old pessimism of Freud, who was convinced that the condition was discouragingly difficult to treat. Even when psychiatrists do try to aid homosexuals, their efforts are likely to be ineffectual because they themselves have so little confidence of success

Read more: Psychiatry: Homosexuals Can Be Cured - TIME

Homosexuality isn't considered a disorder anymore and there is no such "treatment" for it.
Freud's perspective is decades old and not everything that he claimed is true. Like I said, It's a field of psychology/ a perspective.

What's Wrong with Psychology?

As you read here, Freud had atheistic beliefs and he accepted that possibly all the human beings within this world are all possible bisexuals.



And as stated here, he believed that Homosexuality was impossible to correct and that conversion therapy was useless.
Sigmund Freud's views on homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Heres a quote from the link

Freud's most important articles on homosexuality were written between 1905, when he published Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality, and 1922, when he published "Certain Neurotic Mechanisms in Jealousy, Paranoia, and Homosexuality."[1] Freud believed that all humans were bisexual, by which he primarily meant that everyone incorporates aspects of both sexes, and that everyone is sexually attracted to both sexes. In his view, this was true anatomically and therefore also mentally and psychologically. Heterosexuality and homosexuality both developed from this original bisexual disposition.

 

[nitroz]

Plus if you do have one, then please prove so. I'd like to look up your practice (if you have one) and report you for malpractice.

Treating patients to cure them of their homosexuality is not malpractice.

There are many Doctor's and other health professionals who offer as part of their practice revision therapy in order to free homo's from their disease ridden perverse lifestyle.

I thought the practice of trying to "cure" homosexuals was virtually extinct, except for a few religious wackos.

It is because it is not considered as a "Disorder", thus meaning there is no treatment for it.
It's completely human.

 

[Sunni Man]

Too many of today's health professionals had bought into the homo agenda that fudge packers can't be cured.

That is pure non sense.

Homosexuality, like any other deviant behavior, can be cured, with the patient re-entering society as a normal functioning human being.

 

[nitroz]

Too many of today's health professionals had bought into the homo agenda that fudge packers can't be cured.

That is pure non sense.

Homosexuality, like any other deviant behavior, can be cured, with the patient re-entering society as a normal functioning human being.

Even Freud said it can't be cured. And most psychology is based around Freud's perspective.

 

[Sunni Man]

There are many homos who have been cured of their perverse lifestyle.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Thus the choice can be redirected or reversed.

In order to help the person escape the nightmare of homosexuality.

 

[nitroz]

There are many homos who have been cured of their perverse lifestyle.

Homosexuality is a choice.

Thus the choice can be redirected or reversed.

In order to help the person escape the nightmare of homosexuality.

Thats not what Freud said. And psychology doesn't say that wither.