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Lawsuit: Michigan teacher tried to force Palestinian American student to stand for Pledge
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JoeB131
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Only in that both are revered as the fathers of their respective countries.
Not sure how that makes it okay.
try following the rules
Only a child screams, "Why do you hate me?" when confronted with criticism.
Leave the room and you're really adamant about the anti-American stuff find another school
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When kids do stuff like this, you know it's really coming from the parents.Leave the room and you're really adamant about the anti-American stuff by another school
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Leave the room and you're really adamant about the anti-American stuff by another school
The history of legal challenges to the Pledge of Allegiance
June 14, 2023 | by Scott BomboyThe pledge has existed in some form since September 1892 when it appeared in a magazine article that commemorated the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’s arrival in the New World.
Francis Bellamy, an ordained minister, created a pledge that would be taken on Columbus Day by millions of school children. His version did not mention the words “under God”:
“I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands—one Nation indivisible—with liberty and justice for all.”
Bellamy added an extra word, “to,” before “the Republic,” but other school officials modified the pledge over the years. Two historical groups added “to the flag of the United States of America.”
In 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed a “Flag Code” law passed by Congress that established rules for the display and care of the flag and included the Pledge.
The Supreme Court then took the unusual step of ruling against the Jehovah’s Witnesses in a legal fight against the Pledge and reversing its own ruling within three years.
First in 1940 in the case of Minersville School District v. Gobitis, the Court held that a public school could force students who were Jehovah’s Witnesses to salute the flag and say the Pledge. Justice Felix Frankfurter wrote in the majority opinion that “conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs.”
However, in 1943, the Court changed its course in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, where the majority reversed the Gobitis decision and held that “the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits public schools from forcing students to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance.”
“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us,” said Justice Robert Jackson in his opinion.
The history of legal challenges to the Pledge of Allegiance | Constitution Center
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parental rights.
In that case, the 11th Circuit Appeals Court upheld Florida’s statute requiring parental permission as constitutional. “Although we accept that the government ordinarily may not compel students to participate in the Pledge, e.g., Barnette, we also recognize that a parent's right to interfere with the wishes of his child is stronger than a public school official's right to interfere on behalf of the school's own interest,” the federal court said. “Most important, the statute ultimately leaves it to the parent whether a schoolchild will pledge or not.”
Nobody cares when you're in school you do what you're told or get out.. why our schools are all screwed up kids run the placeThe history of legal challenges to the Pledge of Allegiance
June 14, 2023 | by Scott Bomboy
The pledge has existed in some form since September 1892 when it appeared in a magazine article that commemorated the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’s arrival in the New World.
Francis Bellamy, an ordained minister, created a pledge that would be taken on Columbus Day by millions of school children. His version did not mention the words “under God”:
“I pledge allegiance to my flag and the Republic for which it stands—one Nation indivisible—with liberty and justice for all.”
Bellamy added an extra word, “to,” before “the Republic,” but other school officials modified the pledge over the years. Two historical groups added “to the flag of the United States of America.”
In 1942, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed a “Flag Code” law passed by Congress that established rules for the display and care of the flag and included the Pledge.
The Supreme Court then took the unusual step of ruling against the Jehovah’s Witnesses in a legal fight against the Pledge and reversing its own ruling within three years.
First in 1940 in the case of Minersville School District v. Gobitis, the Court held that a public school could force students who were Jehovah’s Witnesses to salute the flag and say the Pledge. Justice Felix Frankfurter wrote in the majority opinion that “conscientious scruples have not, in the course of the long struggle for religious toleration, relieved the individual from obedience to a general law not aimed at the promotion or restriction of religious beliefs.”
However, in 1943, the Court changed its course in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, where the majority reversed the Gobitis decision and held that “the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits public schools from forcing students to salute the American flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance.”
“If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us,” said Justice Robert Jackson in his opinion.
The history of legal challenges to the Pledge of Allegiance | Constitution Center
Jarlaxle
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I'm sorry, thats horseshit.
JoeB131
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So if some Jewish kids are made to sing the Horst Wessel Lied, you are going to be totally cool with that, right?
Follow the rules are get suspended or find another school... leave the class if you're offended. Make a spectacle of yourself, single yourself out for attention , then claim discrimination, maybe she'll get some money
Jarlaxle
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Are you playing stupid?
JoeB131
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JoeB131
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You are confused.
they want to say "Death to the Jews"
They don't want to say the Pledge
This is a free country, and you are free to express yourself as you wish.
If you want no criticism of the government and false pledges of loyalty, move to North Korea; you'd probably be happier there.
(Although I wouldn't want to inflict you on the North Koreans, they really don't deserve that.)
Move to your favorite country China you'll be put in prison and tortured their for speaking out against the government
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How is forcing Jewish kids to sing some German song comparable to having American kids say the Pledge?
Joey would like to say the Chinese pledge of allegiance to Mao
JoeB131
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Which is why I don't move to China.
Why would I do that? Because I understand why the Chinese revere Mao?
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