Lawsuit: Michigan teacher tried to force Palestinian American student to stand for Pledge

[JoeB131]

The classroom is a dictatorship do what you're told ..you can protest on your own time

So if a teacher made a bunch of little Jewish kids sing the Horst Wessel Lied, you'd be totally cool with that, right?

 

[pknopp]

As I pledged allegiance to the Wall........

 

[Jroc]

So if a teacher made a bunch of little Jewish kids sing the Horst Wessel Lied, you'd be totally cool with that, right?

 

[Mac-7]

That's a minute they could spend teaching the subject matter.

I went to a Catholic School, where they made us do a prayer and the Pledge.

Meaningless rituals are exactly that. I'd rather they learn critical thinking skills.

No one is going to learn critical thinking skills in the current failed liberal public schools

The quality of graduates is falling rapidly

 

[Unkotare]

No one is going to learn critical thinking skills in the current failed liberal public schools

The quality of graduates is falling rapidly

How do you know?

 

[TemplarKormac]

How do you know?

If kids eating Tide pods were any indication...

 

[JoeB131]

No one is going to learn critical thinking skills in the current failed liberal public schools

The quality of graduates is falling rapidly

I agree. Public schools are kind of awful, for a whole lot of reasons.

Making kids say a Cold War pledge they don't understand isn't going to make them any smarter.

 

[JoeB131]

How do you know?

well, to start with, people like you are teachers.

It is impossible to fire a bad teacher, and 50% of new teachers burn out in 5 years.

As long as the elites can send their kids to private schools, they aren't going to be in any hurry to fix it, especially with that sweet, sweet, Union Money flowing in.

 

[JoeB131]

Okay, let's go there. If a teacher made the kids sing the Chinese national Anthem, you'd be fine with that, because Teachers are little dictators in their classrooms, right?

Nope. If they did that, you'd go Five Alarm Karen and be complaining to the school board.

Just like these parents did when their daughter's teacher decided to humiliate her in front of the class.

 

[Jroc]

Okay, let's go there. If a teacher made the kids sing the Chinese national Anthem, you'd be fine with that, because Teachers are little dictators in their classrooms, right?

Nope. If they did that, you'd go Five Alarm Karen and be complaining to the school board.

Just like these parents did when their daughter's teacher decided to humiliate her in front of the class.

Let's forget for a moment that you're a rabbid, psychopathic, Jew hater, as this girl as been thought to be...my point is you're on here ,touting the virtues of communist China, you're in no position to comment on any free speech issues...you've been corrupted

 

[JoeB131]

Let's forget for a moment that you're a rabbid, psychopathic, Jew hater, as this girl as been thought to be...my point is you're on here ,touting the virtues of communist China, you're in no position to comment on any free speech issues...you've been corrupted

Your ignorance of the Middle Kingdom aside, you need to make up your mind. (I watch quite a lot of Chinese media with the Mrs. It's a lot more like our media than you think it is.)

You should be for free speech or against it. Being just for free speech you like isn't free speech, it's bias confirmation.

here's the thing.

I look at the Palestinian point of view. They hate the Israelis because they stole their land. I get that. I can relate to it.

I look at the Zionist point of view. They stole Palestine beause a book of Bronze Age superstitions told them a magic sky pixie promised them that land, and because they are largely unable to live in peace with their fellow Europeans.

Sorry, I don't get that at all.

 

[Mac-7]

How do you know?

From complaints of the public including employers

 

[Mac-7]

I agree. Public schools are kind of awful, for a whole lot of reasons.

Making kids say a Cold War pledge they don't understand isn't going to make them any smarter.

Like the man said, a house divided against itself cannot stand

Libs are destroying what you cannot understand

 

[Jarlaxle]

What's the point of allegiance if you aren't required to swear it? What's the point of enjoying all the rights and privileges the government grants you as a citizen if you refuse to swear allegiance as a means of appreciation for what you were given?

The government does a lot of things wrong, but that's no excuse to be an ingrate. Stand and say the pledge.

The left cried, "Bake the cake!" once. Well, I say "say the pledge!"

You don't even realize how insane that sounds.

This isn't a First Amendment issue, far from it. Not standing and saying the pledge is like spitting in the face of your benefactor and biting the hand that feeds you.

If your government gives you rights and privileges, you should be required to swear allegiance to it. You should be made to show appreciation for the freedom you enjoy.

That's nonsense. This has been settled for more than eighty years.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The classroom is a dictatorship do what you're told ..you can protest on your own time

I'm sorry, that's abject nonsense.

 

[Picaro]

‘A Palestinian American student in Michigan is suing a middle school teacher and Plymouth-Canton Community Schools, claiming in federal court that the educator violated the student's First Amendment right by attempting to force the student to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. The East Middle School teacher, Carissa Soranno, according to the lawsuit, allegedly told the student, “Since you live in this country and enjoy its freedom, if you don’t like it, you should go back to your country.”

The student, 14, is referred to as D.K. in the suit and is represented in the claim in U.S. District Court in Detroit by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan and Arab American Civil Rights League. The student did not want to stand for the pledge because she believes the U.S. government has supported Israel in the Israel-Hamas war that has devastated Gaza and left thousands dead, according to the claim.

The suit, filed June 25, asks for a judgment that finds the educator's actions unconstitutional and awards damages, claiming Soranno's actions inflicted emotional distress on the student. A spokesperson for Plymouth-Canton Community Schools did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the Detroit Free Press, part of the USA TODAY Network. Soranno did not answer a voicemail left by a reporter at a phone number associated with her name.

"The right to freely speak — or not speak — is a form of protest that is fundamental to a well-functioning democracy — even when its exercise creates controversy or makes others uncomfortable," wrote Bonitsu Kitaba, interim legal director for the ACLU of Michigan, in a news release.’

Lawsuit: Michigan teacher tried to force Palestinian American student to stand for Pledge

A Palestinian American student in Michigan is suing a middle school teacher and school district, claiming the educator violated the First Amendment.

www.usatoday.com

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943): students can’t be compelled to say the Pledge of Allegiance in public school.

What a great way to weed out the maggots early, before they murder infidels or join terrrorist gangs here; just ask them to cite take the pledge of allegiance. IF they refuse just deport them ASAP. Simple, efficient, and about time.


Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease.


Thomas Jefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816

 

[Unkotare]

From complaints of the public including employers

Illogical. Stop trying to make categorical proclamations about things you know nothing about.

 

[Picaro]

Carissa Soranno,

We need to write the White House and ask Trump to invite this lady to dinner there and give her an award.

 

[Mac-7]

Illogical. Stop trying to make categorical proclamations about things you know nothing about.

From the results your side is getting you are the one who is clueless

 

[Unkotare]

From the results your side is getting you are the one who is clueless

"Your side"?