LaVoy Finicum, armed with a handgun, reached for his waistband just before he was shot

[Asclepias]

I just watched the new video with sound. If you weren't so intent on being a .gov shill and lapping up every single bowl of slop they feed you, you might be capable of independent thought and reasoning and truth.

Yep. 2 shots ring out as he is exiting the truck. These state police officers were cold blooded killers. The Sheriff is disgusted in their actions.

Life is tough. Deal with it.

 

[Faun]

I just watched the new video with sound. If you weren't so intent on being a .gov shill and lapping up every single bowl of slop they feed you, you might be capable of independent thought and reasoning and truth.

Yep. 2 shots ring out as he is exiting the truck. These state police officers were cold blooded killers. The Sheriff is disgusted in their actions.

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

 

[Ame®icano]

He wasn't reaching for his gun. He was reaching for his kidney after being shot there.

This isn't the movies. People don't typically reach for where they've been shot. Even modern movies don't do that anymore because blood in films is no longer taboo thanks to The Wild Bunch.

from the video where he is reaching is not where the mouth of his inside pocket is or would be expected to be

He was reaching for or at his left pocket which is where his loaded 9mm was. Cops don't wait to make sure armed men fleeing custody are just reaching for their Iphones.

And how exactly cops knew there is a gun in his left pocket?

 

[jon_berzerk]

How would the feds now that an known armed individual reaching into his clothes where he was known to carry a firearm was carrying a gun in an inside pocket or in a shoulder holster.


that could very well be something that a jury will have to decide

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

besides this is what the feds said

The investigation by the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office revealed that Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back after he reached three times for a loaded handgun in his left jacket pocket, officials said during a news conference Tuesday in Bend.

So?

After the shooting they would have known that there was a handgun.


That has nothing to do with what the officers knew after he tried to run the barricade, almost ran down and officer, existed his vehicle and then reached into his jacket where he was known to carry a firearm.


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Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

a complaint was forwarded by the local investigators to the DOJ

the DOJ is conducting a criminal investigation of five officers involved in the shooting

The DOJ is investigating statements made by 5 FBI agents.

Finicum was shot by State Troopers. There are no criminal investigation against them.


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How would the feds now that an known armed individual reaching into his clothes where he was known to carry a firearm was carrying a gun in an inside pocket or in a shoulder holster.


that could very well be something that a jury will have to decide

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

besides this is what the feds said

The investigation by the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office revealed that Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back after he reached three times for a loaded handgun in his left jacket pocket, officials said during a news conference Tuesday in Bend.

So?

After the shooting they would have known that there was a handgun.


That has nothing to do with what the officers knew after he tried to run the barricade, almost ran down and officer, existed his vehicle and then reached into his jacket where he was known to carry a firearm.


>>>>

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

a complaint was forwarded by the local investigators to the DOJ

the DOJ is conducting a criminal investigation of five officers involved in the shooting

The DOJ is investigating statements made by 5 FBI agents.

Finicum was shot by State Troopers. There are no criminal investigation against them.


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both the fbi and the state police shot at finicum and his vehicle

the state troopers started shooting at the truck when it was over a hundred yards away

 

[jon_berzerk]

I just watched the new video with sound. If you weren't so intent on being a .gov shill and lapping up every single bowl of slop they feed you, you might be capable of independent thought and reasoning and truth.

the state police and fbi started shooting at them when from at least a hundred yards

 

[WorldWatcher]

70mph is 34.22 yards/sec. That means the time to cover the distance of the pickup charging the road-block was 2.92 seconds.


Damn right they should have tried putting some rounds into the engine.


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[jon_berzerk]

70mph is 34.22 yards/sec. That means the time to cover the distance of the pickup charging the road-block was 2.92 seconds.


Damn right they should have tried putting some rounds into the engine.


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are you ******* insane

with an assault rifle

--LOL

 

[Asclepias]

I just watched the new video with sound. If you weren't so intent on being a .gov shill and lapping up every single bowl of slop they feed you, you might be capable of independent thought and reasoning and truth.

the state police and fbi started shooting at them when from at least a hundred yards

Thats a good thing.

 

[WorldWatcher]

are you ******* insane

with an assault rifle

--LOL

You disagree that it takes less that 3 seconds to cover 100 yards at 70 mph?


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[jon_berzerk]

are you ******* insane

with an assault rifle

--LOL

You disagree that it takes less that 3 seconds to cover 100 yards at 70 mph?


>>>>

why even bother

you claim that they tried to disable the engine of the truck with light arm at best is asinine

why the **** did they set up around a turn

why did they set up a circular firing squad

maybe it would have been better to set up road blocks

oh by the way

you must have missed this

Officials revealed for the first time at the news conference that Oregon State Police troopers apparently were not the only ones to shoot during the confrontation where most of the occupation's leaders were arrested and Finicum was killed.

An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in concealing the shots afterward, the local investigators found. The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department.

LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting

 

[Skylar]

How would the feds now that an known armed individual reaching into his clothes where he was known to carry a firearm was carrying a gun in an inside pocket or in a shoulder holster.


that could very well be something that a jury will have to decide

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

besides this is what the feds said

The investigation by the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office revealed that Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back after he reached three times for a loaded handgun in his left jacket pocket, officials said during a news conference Tuesday in Bend.

So?

After the shooting they would have known that there was a handgun.


That has nothing to do with what the officers knew after he tried to run the barricade, almost ran down and officer, existed his vehicle and then reached into his jacket where he was known to carry a firearm.


>>>>

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

a complaint was forwarded by the local investigators to the DOJ

the DOJ is conducting a criminal investigation of five officers involved in the shooting

The DOJ is investigating statements made by 5 FBI agents.

Finicum was shot by State Troopers. There are no criminal investigation against them.


>>>>

How would the feds now that an known armed individual reaching into his clothes where he was known to carry a firearm was carrying a gun in an inside pocket or in a shoulder holster.


that could very well be something that a jury will have to decide

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

besides this is what the feds said

The investigation by the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office revealed that Finicum was killed by three bullets that entered through his back after he reached three times for a loaded handgun in his left jacket pocket, officials said during a news conference Tuesday in Bend.

So?

After the shooting they would have known that there was a handgun.


That has nothing to do with what the officers knew after he tried to run the barricade, almost ran down and officer, existed his vehicle and then reached into his jacket where he was known to carry a firearm.


>>>>

Since it was a valid shoot. There won't be a jury for a criminal trial.

a complaint was forwarded by the local investigators to the DOJ

the DOJ is conducting a criminal investigation of five officers involved in the shooting

The DOJ is investigating statements made by 5 FBI agents.

Finicum was shot by State Troopers. There are no criminal investigation against them.


>>>>

both the fbi and the state police shot at finicum and his vehicle

the state troopers started shooting at the truck when it was over a hundred yards away

You mean when Lavoy was rushing the police barricade at speeds of upto 70 mph after resisting arrest?

 

[Skylar]

are you ******* insane

with an assault rifle

--LOL

You disagree that it takes less that 3 seconds to cover 100 yards at 70 mph?


>>>>

why even bother

you claim that they tried to disable the engine of the truck with light arm at best is asinine

why the **** did they set up around a turn

why did they set up a circular firing squad

maybe it would have been better to set up road blocks

oh by the way

you must have missed this

Officials revealed for the first time at the news conference that Oregon State Police troopers apparently were not the only ones to shoot during the confrontation where most of the occupation's leaders were arrested and Finicum was killed.

An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in concealing the shots afterward, the local investigators found. The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department.

LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

ANd who says that the Oregon state troopers fired at over 100 yards away?

 

[WorldWatcher]

why even bother

you claim that they tried to disable the engine of the truck with light arm at best is asinine

why the **** did they set up around a turn

why did they set up a circular firing squad

maybe it would have been better to set up road blocks

oh by the way

you must have missed this

Officials revealed for the first time at the news conference that Oregon State Police troopers apparently were not the only ones to shoot during the confrontation where most of the occupation's leaders were arrested and Finicum was killed.

An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in concealing the shots afterward, the local investigators found. The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department.

LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting

1. They did setup a road block. He (LaVoy) charged it at 70mph and almost ran over one of the officers manning it.

2. I never said the State Troopers were the only ones that fired their weapons that day.

3. If the FBI guys that discharged their weapons violated rules of engagement, then action against them in appropriate.



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[teddyearp]

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

Two worthy comrades in the .gov lap up the slop and then regurgitate it without any independent thought machine.

I knew it would only be a small amount of time for you two to discount those first two shots fired by the FBI only on the basis that they missed LaVoy.

You know what's really funny about you two .gov lap dog pigs? You go on and on with your spoon fed narrative that the .gov media has fed you as if it is absolute truth. Because as we all know even from this case, the .gov NEVER lies, right? Because they say so, right? that is the way you have acted in this whole scenario.

Oh but wait. Some of the FBI are being investigated. Why? Because they LIED!

 

[Faun]

He wasn't reaching for his gun. He was reaching for his kidney after being shot there.

This isn't the movies. People don't typically reach for where they've been shot. Even modern movies don't do that anymore because blood in films is no longer taboo thanks to The Wild Bunch.

from the video where he is reaching is not where the mouth of his inside pocket is or would be expected to be

He was reaching for or at his left pocket which is where his loaded 9mm was. Cops don't wait to make sure armed men fleeing custody are just reaching for their Iphones.

And how exactly cops knew there is a gun in his left pocket?

They say they found it there.

 

[Faun]

are you ******* insane

with an assault rifle

--LOL

You disagree that it takes less that 3 seconds to cover 100 yards at 70 mph?


>>>>

why even bother

you claim that they tried to disable the engine of the truck with light arm at best is asinine

why the **** did they set up around a turn

why did they set up a circular firing squad

maybe it would have been better to set up road blocks

oh by the way

you must have missed this

Officials revealed for the first time at the news conference that Oregon State Police troopers apparently were not the only ones to shoot during the confrontation where most of the occupation's leaders were arrested and Finicum was killed.

An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in concealing the shots afterward, the local investigators found. The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department.

LaVoy Finicum supporters unpersuaded by official account of shooting

What the **** is wrong with you? None of that would have happened had Finicum not taken off running from the law.

 

[Faun]

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

Two worthy comrades in the .gov lap up the slop and then regurgitate it without any independent thought machine.

I knew it would only be a small amount of time for you two to discount those first two shots fired by the FBI only on the basis that they missed LaVoy.

You know what's really funny about you two .gov lap dog pigs? You go on and on with your spoon fed narrative that the .gov media has fed you as if it is absolute truth. Because as we all know even from this case, the .gov NEVER lies, right? Because they say so, right? that is the way you have acted in this whole scenario.

Oh but wait. Some of the FBI are being investigated. Why? Because they LIED!

Great, another ******* wackadoo.

There was no narrative sold to me. There was a video which revealed exactly what happened. The only unanswered question was if Finicum was shot before dropping his arm so that he lowered because he was hit -- and that question was answered, not by ".gov media," but by Shawna Cox's own phone, which proved conclusively that Finicum was not shot before "reaching" towards his vest.

But if you really want to know who is hiding from the truth, just take a gander in the mirror. Finicum was fleeing from police at 70MPH ... YOU were the one who claimed he wasn't going more than 40MPH.

<smh>

 

[Skylar]

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

Two worthy comrades in the .gov lap up the slop and then regurgitate it without any independent thought machine.

That's the announcement from the investigation into the shooting.

If you've got a better source, show us.

 

[Faun]

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

Two worthy comrades in the .gov lap up the slop and then regurgitate it without any independent thought machine.

That's the announcement from the investigation into the shooting.

If you've got a better source, show us.

His source is www.pluckedfromhisass.com

 

[Skylar]

The only shots which hit Finicum were by the two officers near him where he died.

Lavoy wasn't hit by any bullet fired by the FBI.

Two worthy comrades in the .gov lap up the slop and then regurgitate it without any independent thought machine.

That's the announcement from the investigation into the shooting.

If you've got a better source, show us.

His source is www.pluckedfromhisass.com

Lets give him a chance to show us a better source than the investigation into Lavoy's shooting.

Teddy, the ball is in your court. Show us. Don't tell us.