Latest CBS Poll Has Bush In The Lead. Anyone Buying It? CBS Is Credible?

[bendog]

What makes you think it's not credible? Who do you think should be polling higher? Is it that different than other current polling? Doesn't look like it.

Polling Report: Republicans

The OP preferred a poll Beck "did." Need one know more? LOL

I think Jeb may have this locked up unless another non-crazy gets in. I thought maybe Walker, but he seems determined to get in the clown car.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

I will be looking forward to the rust belt polls. I just dont think Bush will lead in any of them.

 

[bendog]

WTF does a rust belt poll show? Polls are meaningless this early, but there are probably 25 primaries/caucues nationwide that will tell the tale.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

I think that Walker will easily win the rust belt states in the primaries. But we can expect Cruz and Rubio to take states as well. I give Bush a 40% chance of winning Florida.

 

[Papageorgio]

can we all agree thats its pretty much down to Cruz, Walker and Rubio?

I don't think so, it is way to soon to tell.


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[Nyvin]

Cruz and Rubio aren't very active currently in regards to 2016.

 

[BluesLegend]

Like it or not, Jeb Bush is your candidate with the broadest appeal (right now). Conservatives may like other candidates more intensely, but Jeb has the widest range of some like.

What the GOP needs is another liberal light candidate like Bush so they can lose again to some lame ass Dem liberal. /sarcasm

 

[Toro]

Given how Full Retard the right went on polling during the 2012 elections, it might be a good idea for that part of the political spectrum to learn how polls work rather than bitch about polling results they don't like.

That was such a weird time. The GOP had talked itself into believing Romney was going to win with such intensity that I was beginning to believe it. I'd look at the polls - which showed no such thing - and wonder what the hell was going on.

The funniest part was Rove's bizarro Meltdown of Denial on Fox.

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Well, there is simply no way to accurately factor in the widespread voter fraud. Not to mention the mass numbers of conservatives who did not show up to the voting booths.

Yes, just like conservatives bought the bullshit that all the polls were skewed during the election, many now spin fantasies of voter fraud and conservatives staying home.

You might have a point if there was any actual evidence of "widespread voter fraud" and if more conservatives hadn't voted in this election than any other election in history.

Like I said, the greatest instance of Mass Confirmation Bias in history.

It's easier to lie to oneself than admit one's failings.

 

[Toro]

I think that Walker will easily win the rust belt states in the primaries. But we can expect Cruz and Rubio to take states as well. I give Bush a 40% chance of winning Florida.

If he's still in the race, I give Bush a 100% chance of winning here in Florida.

 

[Mac1958]

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I'd think, this early out and in order, it's Bush, Walker and Paul.

We'll see how effective Rush can be in "not" endorsing (wink wink) Walker.

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[Theowl32]

Given how Full Retard the right went on polling during the 2012 elections, it might be a good idea for that part of the political spectrum to learn how polls work rather than bitch about polling results they don't like.

That was such a weird time. The GOP had talked itself into believing Romney was going to win with such intensity that I was beginning to believe it. I'd look at the polls - which showed no such thing - and wonder what the hell was going on.

The funniest part was Rove's bizarro Meltdown of Denial on Fox.

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Well, there is simply no way to accurately factor in the widespread voter fraud. Not to mention the mass numbers of conservatives who did not show up to the voting booths.

Yes, just like conservatives bought the bullshit that all the polls were skewed during the election, many now spin fantasies of voter fraud and conservatives staying home.

You might have a point if there was any actual evidence of "widespread voter fraud" and if more conservatives hadn't voted in this election than any other election in history.

Like I said, the greatest instance of Mass Confirmation Bias in history.

It's easier to lie to oneself than admit one's failings.

Your fucking pathetic president is the worst president in the history of this country and it is not close.

Only a fucking liberal actually believes there is no voter fraud. I wonder why that is, and it is actually a fact a large number of conservatives did not and would not vote for Romney or the fraudulent piece of shit in the white house now.

Congrats though. You voted for the this piece of shit in the white house. Apparently twice.

Do you actually think you have any ability to think for yourself while being a left wing moron?

 

[JoeB131]

Where do you spend your food stamps then? The Jewish Deli? Wait, you don't go there either...

I can afford my own food, thanks, Double Wide.

 

[JoeB131]

rofl

My comment applies to you too, bigot.

You are so warped with hatred and bigotry, you claimed there was a conspiracy in the polls to keep Romney in the lead around NH, and Gingrich was pulling ahead.

No, I think there was an attempt by the Establishment to rig the game for Romney in 2012, whether it was claiming he won Iowa when Santorum did, or eliminating all the contenders in Virginia except Crazy Ron Paul.

And, gee, the minute Herman Cain pulled ahead of Romney, all these chicks who said he had groped them came out of the woodwork.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Conservatives need to do everything they can to prevent the left from choosing the next "conservative" candidate. They told us that McCain should be our choice in '08 and Romney in '12. Let's think, and do, for ourselves in '16. Seriously, why allow the leftist media to continue picking conservative opponents to their anti-American shills? Jeb B-U-S-H? Like no one can see this one coming...really?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Conservatives need to do everything they can to prevent the left from choosing the next "conservative" candidate. They told us that McCain should be our choice in '08 and Romney in '12.

So any Republican who is not to the far right of Ted Cruz is "the left"?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Conservatives need to do everything they can to prevent the left from choosing the next "conservative" candidate. They told us that McCain should be our choice in '08 and Romney in '12. Let's think, and do, for ourselves in '16. Seriously, why allow the leftist media to continue picking conservative opponents to their anti-American shills? Jeb B-U-S-H? Like no one can see this one coming...really?

The above post is a perfect example of what the sane among us need to remember when we hear RWnuts of the USMB variety talk about 'liberals', i.e., who exactly they are talking about.

 

[Toro]

Given how Full Retard the right went on polling during the 2012 elections, it might be a good idea for that part of the political spectrum to learn how polls work rather than bitch about polling results they don't like.

That was such a weird time. The GOP had talked itself into believing Romney was going to win with such intensity that I was beginning to believe it. I'd look at the polls - which showed no such thing - and wonder what the hell was going on.

The funniest part was Rove's bizarro Meltdown of Denial on Fox.

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Well, there is simply no way to accurately factor in the widespread voter fraud. Not to mention the mass numbers of conservatives who did not show up to the voting booths.

Yes, just like conservatives bought the bullshit that all the polls were skewed during the election, many now spin fantasies of voter fraud and conservatives staying home.

You might have a point if there was any actual evidence of "widespread voter fraud" and if more conservatives hadn't voted in this election than any other election in history.

Like I said, the greatest instance of Mass Confirmation Bias in history.

It's easier to lie to oneself than admit one's failings.

Your fucking pathetic president is the worst president in the history of this country and it is not close.

Only a fucking liberal actually believes there is no voter fraud. I wonder why that is, and it is actually a fact a large number of conservatives did not and would not vote for Romney or the fraudulent piece of shit in the white house now.

Congrats though. You voted for the this piece of shit in the white house. Apparently twice.

Do you actually think you have any ability to think for yourself while being a left wing moron?

I voted for Romney.

That I don't adhere to your ridiculous whining memes conservatard losers cling to rationalize their failures doesn't make me left wing.

Unless, of course, you are an example of rdean's "Republicans hate education" line of thinking. Then, you will believe that idiotic tripe.

 

[Theowl32]

Given how Full Retard the right went on polling during the 2012 elections, it might be a good idea for that part of the political spectrum to learn how polls work rather than bitch about polling results they don't like.

That was such a weird time. The GOP had talked itself into believing Romney was going to win with such intensity that I was beginning to believe it. I'd look at the polls - which showed no such thing - and wonder what the hell was going on.

The funniest part was Rove's bizarro Meltdown of Denial on Fox.

.

Well, there is simply no way to accurately factor in the widespread voter fraud. Not to mention the mass numbers of conservatives who did not show up to the voting booths.

Yes, just like conservatives bought the bullshit that all the polls were skewed during the election, many now spin fantasies of voter fraud and conservatives staying home.

You might have a point if there was any actual evidence of "widespread voter fraud" and if more conservatives hadn't voted in this election than any other election in history.

Like I said, the greatest instance of Mass Confirmation Bias in history.

It's easier to lie to oneself than admit one's failings.

Your fucking pathetic president is the worst president in the history of this country and it is not close.

Only a fucking liberal actually believes there is no voter fraud. I wonder why that is, and it is actually a fact a large number of conservatives did not and would not vote for Romney or the fraudulent piece of shit in the white house now.

Congrats though. You voted for the this piece of shit in the white house. Apparently twice.

Do you actually think you have any ability to think for yourself while being a left wing moron?

I voted for Romney.

That I don't adhere to your ridiculous whining memes conservatard losers cling to rationalize their failures doesn't make me left wing.

Unless, of course, you are an example of rdean's "Republicans hate education" line of thinking. Then, you will believe that idiotic tripe.

Wow, you voted for Romney. You still denying there is wide spread voter fraud with liberals?

Question:

Are you fucking stupid?

You still denying many conservatives did not show up to polls?

Question:

Are you fucking stupid?

 

[Theowl32]

DEMOCRATS Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud

Update: April 3, 2012

Four MORE Democrats arrested for Voter Fraud in Indiana

Prosecutors in South Bend, Ind., filed charges Monday against four St. Joseph County Democratic officials and deputies as part of a multiple-felony case involving the alleged forging of Democratic presidential primary petitions in the 2008 election, which put then-candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the Indiana ballot.

Update: February 3, 2012

A local Florida station invented an unprecedented way to check for voter fraud: jury excusal forms.NBC2 compiled a list of jury excusals based on not being a citizen of the United States and compared it to a list of registered voters in two counties. They discovered almost 100 illegally registered voters, many of whom had voted multiple times. “I vote every year,” one woman told NBC2, despite the fact that she is not a US citizen. The woman had told the court that she couldn’t serve on a jury because she wasn’t a US citizen, but she doesn’t seem to have a problem voting like one.

Based on the NBC2 investigation, local election offices say they’ll now request a copy of every jury excusal form where residents say they can’t serve because they’re not a citizen.

UPDATE January 9, 2012

8 Arrested for Absentee Voter Fraud in Madison County, Florida

Democrats ~ Jada Woods Williams and Abra Hill Johnson

I am not sure how I missed this one, but here is one to add to the growing list of individuals arrested for actual voter fraud- meaning they voted more than once in an given election.

The NAACP is up in arms over the arrests saying the FBI is some how suppressing minority voters by arresting and charging minorities for actually illegally voting.

November 1, 2011 – 8 were arrested for absentee voter fraud in Madison County, Florida.

The case began when the Florida’s Division of Elections notified FDLE ad FBI that “an extraordinarily disproportionate amount of absentee votes,” had been cast in the District 1 school board race. The eight suspects were arrested on November 1, 2011.

Before I post the names of those arrested for voting more than once in an election, they are ALL registered Democrats:

• Tina Johnson was arrested on 10 counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote, and two counts of absentee ballots and voting violations.
• Johnson Jr. was charged with 11 counts of fraud in connection with casting votes, as well as corruptly influencing voting, and perjury by false written declaration.
• Williams was charged with 17 counts of neglect of duty and corrupt practices for allowing the distribution of these absentee ballots.

The following Madison residents were each charged with one count of proving a false report to law enforcement as well addition charges as listed:
• Shalonda Michaelle Brinson, 36, nine counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote
• Judy Ann Crumitie, 51, four counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote
• Laverne V. Haynes, 57, two counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote, two counts of perjury by false written declaration
• Ora Bell Rivers, 41, seven counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote, three counts of perjury by false written declaration
• Raven Simona Williams, 20, two counts of fraud in connection with casting a vote, two counts of perjury by false written declaration

Update: December 2011

7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots

Democrats arrested, charged and 4 plead guilty to actual voter fraud in New York via absentee ballots!

Democrat Anthony DeFiglio, right, pled guilty to falsifying business records for his role in a ballot fraud case in Rensselaer County Court on Tuesday Dec. 20, 2011 in Troy, N.Y. His lawyer John Turi is at left.

4 Plead Guilty while the other 3 opt for a trial. The group forged signatures on applications for absentee ballots and on the ballots themselves in a 2009 primary of the Working Families Party, which was affiliated with now-defunct community group ACORN.

Voters whose signatures were forged expressed outrage to Fox. “I feel extremely violated,” said Brian Suozzo.

In November 2009, Democratic operative Anthony DeFiglio told New York State police investigators that faking absentee ballots was a commonplace and accepted practice in political circles, all intended to swing an election.



Democrat Clement Campana, President of the Troy City Council, right, is arraigned for his role in a ballot fraud case in Rensselaer County Court while sitting with his lawyer E. Stewart Jones, Jr., left, on Tuesday Dec. 20, 2011 in Troy, N.Y.. (Philip Kamrass / Times Union )

**It should be noted that the story below has still yet, as of November 25, 2011 to be aired on NBC, MSNBC or CNN……**

To hear NBC, MSNBC and CNN put it, voter fraud is “basically unfounded” in today’s society. That those who scream voter fraud, those said people are merely looking to “discredit” Democrats, or they go so far as to call them “racists”. Remember, the whole purpose of the MEDIA is to keep the citizens informed and the politicians “honest”. Lying about the OBVIOUS is neither keeping the citizens informed nor keeping the politicians “honest”. Likewise, calling those racists whom provide factual evidence that voter fraud occurs a lot more than the media leads on, only proves why NBC, MSNBC and CNN’s ratings are in the tank.

Irony, by its very definition is that of the media “keeping politicians honest” by “reporting the truth” when said media calls those who do report the truth as being racists and liars.

Update: November 2011

12 Democrats have been Charged in Georgia for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud

Case in point: November 23, 2011 – 12 people have been charged in Georgia for voter fraud as they used absentee ballots to skew an in election in Georgia. The 12 people charged are ALL with the Democrat Party. The defendants include some workers in the voter registrar’s office and some school board members. They are Angela Bryant, April Proctor, Brenda Monds, Debra Denard, Lula Smart, Kechia Harrison, Robert Denard, Sandra Cody, Elizabeth Thomas, Linda Troutman, Latashia Head, and Nancy Denard.

The charges followed a bitter November 2010 school board election in Brooks County in which the final tally was changed by an unusually large wave of absentee ballots.

During the election, 1,060 absentee votes were cast out of the 1,403 ballots mailed out to people who requested them, according to a July 2010 report by WCTV.

That’s far higher than nearby Thomas County, which had 119 absentee votes cast out of 202 requests, and Lowndes County, which had 169 absentee votes cast out of 439 requests, said WCTV’s report.

We also need to look at the other actual voter fraud that yielded arrests, charges and convictions. Needless to say, ALL thus far have been via DEMOCRAT voters who voted MULTIPLE TIMES for Obama whereby even DNA evidence was acquired and used to convict on voter fraud so as to NOT allow the media to state that these charges and convictions were somehow “racist”.

NAACP Executive Sentence to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008

While NAACP President Benjamin Jealous lashed out at new state laws requiring photo ID for voting, an NAACP executive sits in prison, sentenced for carrying out a massive voter fraud scheme.

In April 2011, a Tunica County, Miss., jury convicted NAACP official Lessadolla Sowers on 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots.

Sowers received a five-year prison term for each of the 10 counts…..

“This crime cuts against the fabric of our free society,” Judge Webster said.

Sowers was found guilty of voting in the names of Carrie Collins, Walter Howard, Sheena Shelton, Alberta Pickett, Draper Cotton and Eddie Davis.

She was also convicted of voting in the names of four dead persons: James L. Young, Dora Price, Dorothy Harris, and David Ross.

In the trial, forensic scientist Bo Scales testified that Sowers’s DNA was found on the inner seals of five envelopes containing absentee ballots.

4 Wake County, North Carolina Democrats have Admitted to Voting for Obama TWICE Each in 2008

FOUR Wake County, North Carolina, Democrats have admitted to voter fraud charges, according tolocal news reports.

Kierra Fontae Leache, Shelia Romona Hodges and Brandon Earl Mclean each admitted to casting two ballots in recent elections. Local reports indicate all three voted for President Barack Obama twice in 2008.

According to ABC News Channel 11 in Raleigh-Durham, authorities have placed the three on $10,000 bonds.

Daytona Beach City Democrat Commissioner and his Campaign Manager arrested for Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud

Derrick Henry Genesis Robinson

October 27, 201 :

Daytona Beach City Commissioner Democrat Derrick Henry and his campaign manager, Genesis Robinson, were arrested Wednesday, charged with committing absentee ballot fraud during Henry’s 2010 re-election campaign, the Volusia County Sheriff’s Office said.

Illegal alien from the Philippines Arrested and Charged on 17 counts of Voter fraud in Lake County, Illinois

March 17, 2011:

LAKE COUNTY, Ill. – An illegal alien from the Philippines was arrested Thursday morning on a felony complaint charging her with 17 counts related to voter fraud in Lake County. The state charges resulted

from a joint investigation conducted by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the Lake County State’s Attorneys Office. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) also provided assistance.

Maria Azada, 53, of Grayslake, Ill., was arrested March 17 by ICE HSI agents and a Lake County State’s Attorneys special investigator. Azada faces 17 felony counts in Lake County Circuit Court of perjury,

mutilation of election materials, and tampering with voting machines in connection with illegal voting by a non-U.S. citizen.

The investigation began in February 2009 when Azada admitted to a USCIS officer during an interview for an immigration benefit that she had voted in an election. It is illegal for foreign nationals to vote in national or state elections in the United States.

Indiana Voter Fraud – Please note that we have TWO Separate voter fraud issues in this state to address: 1. Absentee Ballot Voter Fraud; 2. Obama’s Signature Fraud

MIKE MARSHALL AND SON CHRIS (ALSO INDICTED) IN DC ATTENDING OBAMA’S INAUGURATION, January 20, 2009

October 2011: A former state representative and prominent Democratic leader and political consultant from Jennings County[Indiana], Mike Marshall, has been indicted on multiples counts of vote fraud, forgery and perjury, along with Marshall’s son, Chris, and another local Democrat, John Cook. The Columbus Republic has the story on the grand jury indictments just returned against the men:

Three Jennings County residents face a combined 65 felony counts after being indicted by a grand jury on charges of vote fraud, forgery and perjury.

Mike Marshall, a Democrat and president of North Vernon’s Utilities Service Board, faces 12 Class D felony counts of forgery, 13 Class D felony counts of perjury and 20 Class D felony counts of vote fraud, according to paperwork filed with the Jennings County clerk’s office.

Marshall’s son Chris Marshall faces one count each of forgery and perjury and nine counts of vote fraud.

John Cook, a Democrat and member of the Utilities Service Board, faces two counts of forgery, three counts of perjury and four counts of vote fraud.

The case stems from an absentee ballot filed in last year’s election [2010].

Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats Up over Obama

Fox News 10/2011

10/18/2011: Indiana Democratic Chairman Dan Parker on Monday evening confirmed the resignation of Butch Morgan, Democratic chairman for St. Joseph County and the Second Congressional District.

Fox News 12/12/11: The chairman of the St. Joseph County Democratic Party has resigned amid a scandal that reveals hundreds of signatures on petitions for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to appear on the state’s 2008 primary ballot were faked.

Dan Parker, who served for seven years, did not cite the scandal as a reason for his decision. But the uproar over possible fraud in a race for the White Househas already claimed the job of one county Democratic Chairman, who sources say was forced out because of the allegations.

The alleged forgeries have raised the question whether the Obama campaign actually filed the necessary number of signatures, 500 from the county, to get on the state’s primary ballot. The 534 signatures that were certified to place Obama’s name in contention, were never challenged. 704 signatures were certified for Clinton, according to state elections officials. An estimated 150 of the signatures on both petitions may be fakes, leaving open the possibility that, in at least President Obama’s case, the number of legal signatures that were required to get on the ballot was not reached.

Several voters told Fox News that they never signed nor gave their names that appeared on the Obama petitions.

“It’s scary,” Charity Rorie said, adding that her signature and name, and those of her husband, were faked.

“It’s shocking … it’s definitely is illegal.”

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Yeah, nothing to this voter fraud at all. Of course not. Yeah, nothing to it at all.

 

[JoeB131]

Wow, you voted for Romney. You still denying there is wide spread voter fraud with liberals?

Uh, yeah, here's the thing. You guys keep claiming that but you never come up with proof.

You still denying many conservatives did not show up to polls?

Well, let's look at that.

IN 2004- Bush got 61,837,000 votes. - this is 12 million more than he got in 2000.
in 2008- John McCain got 59,948,000 votes. - A little less than 2 million less than Bush Got.
In 2013- The Weird Mormon Robot got 59,134,475

2012 US Presidential Election

I've seen other sources thta have said Romney got more votes than McCain, but the point is, really, they are all in the same range.

It is far more probable that the 2-3 million vote deficit that McCain and Romney got less than Bush was moderates and independents going for Obama than Conservatives not showing up. Obama got 11 million more votes than Kerry did in 2008, while in 2012, he fell back to only getting 6 million more votes than Kerry did. People who usually don't bother with elections came out and voted because let's be honest, Bush fucked up... well... everything.