Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[beagle9]

Was the 13 (if a tat) his lucky number as a gambler ??

 

[Skull Pilot]

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

. Do you think that the word lethal has only one narrow meaning when talking about weapons ?? The degree of lethality varies between weapons. It also is found in the size of ammo used, and depending on whether one uses hollow points, wad cutters, armor piercing etc. It also depends on whether one is semi-automatic, automatic, the gauge or the size of the barrel, the millimeter, and on and on and on it goes. When choosing a weapon, the lethality of the weapon comes into play big time in accordance with the task at hand.

If you want to compare weapons used for killing knives are obviously chosen more than rifles (something like 6 times more) so in the USA knives are certainly more lethal than rifles.

Rifles may be potentially more lethal but their use in the real world as far as murders tells us a different story doesn't it?

 

[Skull Pilot]

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

have you seen this thread Dalia?

Eye Witness At Las Vegas Shooting States “There Were 7 Confirmed Shooters”

this thread confirms my immediate suspecions i had that day to be true,that there were multiple shooters.Its the JFK assassination all over again.

 

[Dalia]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

have you seen this thread Dalia?

Eye Witness At Las Vegas Shooting States “There Were 7 Confirmed Shooters”

this thread confirms my immediate suspecions i had that day to be true,that there were multiple shooters.Its the JFK assassination all over again.

Hello LA RAM FAN...yes i saw it, not really clear this shooting , i find it very Strange for a lot a reason and i am not the only one.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

have you seen this thread Dalia?

Eye Witness At Las Vegas Shooting States “There Were 7 Confirmed Shooters”

this thread confirms my immediate suspecions i had that day to be true,that there were multiple shooters.Its the JFK assassination all over again.

Hello LA RAM FAN...yes i saw it, not really clear this shooting , i find it very Strange for a lot a reason and i am not the only one.

this vegas event just proves how naive people are that the JFK assanation just because it happend over 50 years ago is not every bit as important now as it was back then. Because as I have all along,history has a way of repeating itself.If the government is not held accountable for their actions and able to roam free all the time as they are,then what happened back then is every bit as relevent now.If the government wont own up to its corruption from over 50 years ago, then there is no hope of reform and these false flag events will contiune thoughout the world because they are always started by the CIA and mossad of Israel.

 

[Dalia]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

have you seen this thread Dalia?

Eye Witness At Las Vegas Shooting States “There Were 7 Confirmed Shooters”

this thread confirms my immediate suspecions i had that day to be true,that there were multiple shooters.Its the JFK assassination all over again.

Hello LA RAM FAN...yes i saw it, not really clear this shooting , i find it very Strange for a lot a reason and i am not the only one.

this vegas event just proves how naive people are that the JFK assanation just because it happend over 50 years ago is not every bit as important now as it was back then. Because as I have all along,history has a way of repeating itself.If the government is not held accountable for their actions and able to roam free all the time as they are,then what happened back then is every bit as relevent now.If the government wont own up to its corruption from over 50 years ago, then there is no hope of reform and these false flag events will contiune thoughout the world because they are always started by the CIA and mossad of Israel.

Pretty strange how fast they stop talking about it. just for that it look suspicious.
JFK we will never know for sure like for this shooting what a lack of respect for the memory of the victims and their families.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You don't know what you post, do ya?

You posted, Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?

Hello Faun, read my post completely!

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I will not be so sure, we still don't have any motivation coming up ! a lot of Strange stuff are going on with this shooting.

1- The age of Paddock
2- the two broken Windows
3- The Room look from the 80's

compare too

4- the number 13 don't appear on the neck of " Paddock" on the ground

I cut the picture to show just the neck

Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?
5- Nobody call to say that he is shoot at the security gard ? and after starting at 10.00pm nobody is still not calling ?come on !
Despite the advance warnings, police did not show up on the 32nd floor until 10:17 p.m., two minutes after Paddock had, for reasons unknown, ended his 10-minute shooting spree, according to the Los Angeles Times report. With the six-minute time lag between Paddock’s attack on Campos and when he started shooting out the hotel windows, police apparently took at least 18 minutes to get to Paddock’s floor after calls were placed reporting a gunman there.
6- When Charlottesville happen the media talk about it for weeks after this shooting it last three days not a lot more.

Why do you refuse to address what I’m posting? You raise concern over the disappearance of a tattoo.....

Let’s see your proof that was a tattoo......

Did you look at the picture of him " Paddock" dead on the ground ?

Yeah, there’s nothing on his neck.

+ look very close at some détails.

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What do you see that is wrong ?

Nothing at all, except for a bunch of paranoid weirdos imagining a tattoo on his neck.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of an active shooter at the Mandalay Bay Casino on the city's famous strip.

Las Vegas police are investigating reports of a shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino. Photo: Twitter: ABC7 Eyewitness News
Several artists performing at the Route 91 Harvest music festival have reported hearing gunshots.
Police are heading to the scene last on Sunday night local time near Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino.

There are reports of a country music festival, Route 90 Harvest, on Las Vegas Boulevard.

Mandalay Bay is located on the south end of the Vegas strip and across from McCarran International Airport.

Las Vegas shooting: Reports of active shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

have you seen this thread Dalia?

Eye Witness At Las Vegas Shooting States “There Were 7 Confirmed Shooters”

this thread confirms my immediate suspecions i had that day to be true,that there were multiple shooters.Its the JFK assassination all over again.

That doesn't confirm your stupid, insane nonsense.

 

[beagle9]

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

 

[westwall]

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

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That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Laws against high explosives? Pointless. Laws telling you to drive on the street and NOT through stores or over people? Pointless.

Of course, in "non gun-nut reality", these laws do both disincentivize people and punish them. Also, laws that make things harder to acheive or get do, in fact, decrease the instances of both.

 

[westwall]

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

 

[westwall]

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

If you cant think of any, that's due to lack of effort on your part. No doubt someone who wanted to commit murder chose not to do so out of self-interest (their freedom), and also someone who was undecided no doubt would have committed murder, if not for the deterrent against it.

 

[westwall]

\






That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

If you cant think of any, that's due to lack of effort on your part. No doubt someone who wanted to commit murder chose not to do so out of self-interest (their freedom), and also someone who was undecided no doubt would have committed murder, if not for the deterrent against it.

Hey, YOU made the claim. So back it up. That's how argumentation works.

 

[August West]

If a law isn`t 100% effective then having that law is pointless is what WW is saying. Good grief!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

If you cant think of any, that's due to lack of effort on your part. No doubt someone who wanted to commit murder chose not to do so out of self-interest (their freedom), and also someone who was undecided no doubt would have committed murder, if not for the deterrent against it.

Hey, YOU made the claim. So back it up. That's how argumentation works.

I just backed it up with reason. Feel free to embarrass yourself by saying everything I said is false.

 

[westwall]

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

If you cant think of any, that's due to lack of effort on your part. No doubt someone who wanted to commit murder chose not to do so out of self-interest (their freedom), and also someone who was undecided no doubt would have committed murder, if not for the deterrent against it.

Hey, YOU made the claim. So back it up. That's how argumentation works.

I just backed it up with reason. Feel free to embarrass yourself by saying everything I said is false.

You did nothing of the sort. You made a blanket statement that is not supported by fact. Try again.