Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[MindWars]

Just posting it here since it involves the same topic as more new information comes out.

DEVELOPING: FBI investigating threat made to Choctaw Casino


A threat made toward concertgoers at Choctaw Casino and Resort last week is now under investigation by the FBI. The threat was posted to Dwight Yoakam’s Facebook page on October 11, saying in part “You think the shooting in Las Vegas by Stephen Paddock was senseless and horrific? Your concert in Durant is next.” Paddock killed 58 people at a concert in Las Vegas earlier this month, and Choctaw police said

DEVELOPING: FBI investigating threat made to Choctaw Casino

 

[beagle9]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

I wonder why he didn't just use a bolt action .22, and instead used modified, "automatic" weapons? That silly guy... he didn't get the memo...

 

[Skull Pilot]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

 

[Faun]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

 

[Faun]

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

 

[Skull Pilot]

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

 

[Faun]

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Not @ 2-400 yards they aren't.

Tell ya what, I'll give you a (Some 30.06 semi-auto) thing and I'll use mine and we'll duel @ 400 yards, k?

 

[Faun]

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

 

[Skull Pilot]

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

 

[Ame®icano]

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

It does, in right hands.

 

[Dalia]

Isis had already threatened the Las Vegas strip in the past.

 

[Dalia]

Mandalay Bay upkeep worker says he warned hotel of shooter before Las Vegas massacre.

Breaking911 on Twitter

 

[Dalia]

No, i said : the number 13 don't appear on the neck of " Paddock" on the ground.

You don't know what you post, do ya?

You posted, Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?

Hello Faun, read my post completely!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I will not be so sure, we still don't have any motivation coming up ! a lot of Strange stuff are going on with this shooting.

1- The age of Paddock
2- the two broken Windows
3- The Room look from the 80's

compare too

4- the number 13 don't appear on the neck of " Paddock" on the ground

I cut the picture to show just the neck

Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?
5- Nobody call to say that he is shoot at the security gard ? and after starting at 10.00pm nobody is still not calling ?come on !
Despite the advance warnings, police did not show up on the 32nd floor until 10:17 p.m., two minutes after Paddock had, for reasons unknown, ended his 10-minute shooting spree, according to the Los Angeles Times report. With the six-minute time lag between Paddock’s attack on Campos and when he started shooting out the hotel windows, police apparently took at least 18 minutes to get to Paddock’s floor after calls were placed reporting a gunman there.
6- When Charlottesville happen the media talk about it for weeks after this shooting it last three days not a lot more.

Why do you refuse to address what I’m posting? You raise concern over the disappearance of a tattoo.....

Let’s see your proof that was a tattoo......

Did you look at the picture of him " Paddock" dead on the ground ?

Yeah, there’s nothing on his neck.

+ look very close at some détails.

+

What do you see that is wrong ?

 

[beagle9]

The weapon lying there on the floor with scope, tri-pod, and other ominus aspects to it, just amazes me that a madman ended up with such a weapon that was modified even more so, and that he was able to kill and injure so many with such a weapon he somehow aquirred. Some stricter steps concerning the vetting of gun buyers should be implemented in order to make sure a Steven Paddock type doesn't easily do such a thing to innocent American's again. Not sure what those steps are, but we can do better than this. Why gun advocates don't see this as something they would want to be a part in, and to help create a better system or set up just baffles the mind. I mean even I restrict the open invitation to my children to just be able to put their hands on a non loaded weapon in my home or a loaded one. Do people realize that some adults are just like children, and they need to be educated, vetted, and even denide the purchasing of a weapon that could either hurt them or hurt others if they are the wrong individuals to own or have in their possession a firearm ?? Over and over again we talk about this, and see this in these forums, but then we go silent even in the wake of such tragic events like that of Vegas or other atrocious acts that takes place ? Kicking the can down the road invites more death and destruction at the hands of bad people who had the same rights as the good citizens to get a gun. The trouble is figuring out how to surgically get the guns out of the bad guy's hands always, and to keep them out of the bad guy's hands always, yet preserving the second amendment, and not messing with the good guys guns in the process.

The pat answer here is if some people commit a horrific crime with a rifle then we must not let anyone have a rifle.
There is no way to leave people unfettered if you hold all people responsible for the acts of one person.

The best way to keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals is to keep violent criminals off the streets. That alone will reduce both our murder and crime rates.

But we will never be able to prevent every heinous act because we cannot predict the future.

. Yes, the enforcement to get the bad guy's off the streets, and out of the communities is key to alot of this, and the looking at stricter licensing for more lethal weapons ownership could also be key. We just need to get our common sense back, and deal with those who are destroying our abilities to use good common sense in anything we do. I agree that we shouldn't punish the good citizens for the acts of a few, but we must restrict the ability of someone to do the damage that was done in Vegas or upon the streets of Chicago etc. If we are going to call ourselves a civilized society, then we must do things that promote a civilized society, and take actions to keep our people safe.

More lethal?

A semiautomatic rifle is no more lethal than any other rifle.

And you will never restrict the ability of people to commit mass murder.

. You actually said that some rifles are no more lethal than other rifles ?? Kidding me right ? Semi-automatic rifles are more lethal than single shot bolt action rifles wouldn't you agree ?

Ask JFK

He got pretty dead after being shot with a bolt action

. Do you think that the word lethal has only one narrow meaning when talking about weapons ?? The degree of lethality varies between weapons. It also is found in the size of ammo used, and depending on whether one uses hollow points, wad cutters, armor piercing etc. It also depends on whether one is semi-automatic, automatic, the gauge or the size of the barrel, the millimeter, and on and on and on it goes. When choosing a weapon, the lethality of the weapon comes into play big time in accordance with the task at hand.

 

[beagle9]

Oswald got off 3 rounds, shot 2 people and killed 1... Paddock? Thousands of rounds, shot more than 500 and killed 58.

Yeah, you really are as stupid as you appear.

A guy with truck killed more than 80 people in France so I guess trucks are more lethal than rifles.

More people are killed with knives every year than by rifles of all kinds so I guess knives are more lethal than rifles

More people are killed with fists and feet every year than are killed with rifles of any kind so I guess fists and feet are more lethal than rifles

It's YOU who doesn't seem to understand that it's not the weapons it's the PEOPLE who use them that are the most lethal tings on the planet

^^^ a moron who realized his argument failed.

Moron, it took only one post for you to abandon your idiocy of how lethal Oswald was compared to someone armed with semi automatic weapons.

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

 

[Ace Nova]