Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Skull Pilot]

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

So it's not the number of people killed you care about only those that happen in the same event?

99% of all murders take place outside of mass shooting events.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

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That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

"The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws."


Haha, you heard it here, folks: Murder laws are pointless. Now, everyone go try to wash off the stupid.

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

No law will stop anyone hell bent on murder.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

. If talking in terms of lethality being or meaning the number of people killed in one instant by a perp, then guns trump knives in the lethality of the weapon used everytime. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

The fact remains that more people are killed with knives annually than with rifles
More people are killed with nothing but fists and feet annually than with rifles

So this fixation with rifles is missing the point entirely.

. Stats are not the truth in what is trying to be revealed in this situation... No where has there ever been recorded in the history of this country where a single individual killed 58 people, and injured 500 in one event with knives. The use of knives here is a fail in comparison of. We have laws regarding speeding, and yes thousands disobey these laws daily, but if we didn't have speeding laws could you imagine the chaos that would insue ? The majority obey the speed laws, so there is enough who obey the laws in order to get a healthy balance in the streets that makes the system work. If we had laws outlawing bump stocks, it doesn't mean there would be no more bump stocks in private collections. It only means that you had best not get caught brandishing it out into the public square or bragging about it to your buddies until they talk about it around the wrong people, and they come to steal your collection.

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That is true. However, the single biggest mass murder was committed by an asshole with a gallon of gasoline at a New York club. The point being that an asshole intent on murder is not going to be deterred by your stupid laws. France has all of the gun laws you want and more, and still assholes were able to shoot 130 poor people to death. Gun laws don't work. Anybody with a brain can figure that one out.

Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in the Bronx in 1990
Fire kills 87 people at the Happy Land Social Club in 1990

. Under your interpretation of laws, then none should work because they are stupid. Listen, laws and rules are created when something goes very wrong in society, and innocent people are killed. The idea that we should kick the can down the road until a thousand more or worse gets it again imho is what is stupid. Can you imagine what this country would be like if we had no rules, punishments or laws that curb the outlaws from doing as they please in a supposed lawless society ? Was the wild wild west just a leftist lie that was written in order to use propaganda as a way to create laws and justice in order to tame the west or was the wild, wild west real at all ??? Was those who used Tommy guns in the 30 & 40's a figment of our imaginations or was it real and/or just created leftis lies to subdue the public at large in that time period ???? Anything that turns a semi-automatic weapon into a weapon where that many innocent human beings can be slaughtered in a single event, and by just one man is unexceptable in a modern day society or any civilized society. Special licensing, and intense vetting should be done on anyone allowed to have automatic weapons in our civilian population. I just hope we become more responsible for our wants and needs in society. Now hey, I'm for guns and gun ownership in this country (pro-second), but what happened in Vegas was just unexceptable, and I applaud the NRA for recognizing this. It's just the bump stock I'm angry about, nothing more. Giving up the bump stock as a gesture of Goodwill in the situation would be honorable I think. Hey if I'm wrong then so be it. Now I'm not for the left using the situation to go farther than it should go, so I understand the resistance in that respect. I don't blame anyone for being leary of the motivations of the left in this country. If it weren't for the left, I think we would see greater common sense prevail on these issues. Why don't the left give up something in it all ?? They (the left) always want the gun culture to capitulate without meeting them halfway. This is why the resistance to the left continues in this country. Sad, but can't blame the resistance for resisting.

Actually the wild west wasn't so wild at all

The Not So Wild, Wild West

 

[Skull Pilot]

Those who say everyone else fails need to look in the mirror

a semiautomatic is no more lethal than the person shooting it.

But for idiots like you who believe guns kill no rational argument will ever suffice

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

 

[Faun]

You’re completely brain dead. Of course all weapons require a person to be lethal. That doesn’t make a knife more lethal than a semi automatic weapon.

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since knives are used to kill more people every year than are rifles anyone with a brain in their head would come to the conclusion that knives are more lethal than rifles.

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

 

[Faun]

Spits the moron not factoring in how many killers used a knife versus a semi automatic weapon.

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since more people are killed by knives every year than rifles obviously more killers kill with knives than rifles.

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

So?

I guess to the brain-dead, that makes a knife more lethal than a semi-automatic rifle.

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Which one kills more every year?

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

 

[Faun]

LOL

^^^ Strawman

Now you’re arguing which weapon is more popular, not which is more lethal.

In about a 10 minute span, Paddock killed 58 and wounded another 500 with rifles. Try finding someone wounding and killing that many with a knife and then you won’t sound so stark raving mad.

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

 

[Skull Pilot]

No if you look at the DEATH TOLL knives are more lethal in the USA than are rifles of any kind.

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

 

[Faun]

LOL

The death toll from knives is higher than rifles because they’re more commonly unused than rifles, not because they’re more lethal.

Dayam, you’re stupid.

I also note, you failed to find anyone who killed and wounded close to 600 people with knives. Paddock did that in 10 minutes with rifles.

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Like I said you only care about 1% of murder victims the **** with the other 99%

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

That was you I used a perfectly valid psychological term.

Like I said you need to get a hold of your emotions and think rationally

 

[Faun]

Try again when your acid trip wears off.

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

That was you I used a perfectly valid psychological term.

Like I said you need to get a hold of your emotions and think rationally

Just for a laugh... post s link to the data supporting your claim of how popular you think knives are...

 

[Skull Pilot]

Then why are your panties in a twist over murders committed with rifles only?

Rifles are use far less to kill than dozens of other weapons but you are pathologically fixated on them

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

That was you I used a perfectly valid psychological term.

Like I said you need to get a hold of your emotions and think rationally

Just for a laugh... post s link to the data supporting your claim of how popular you think knives are...

I don't have to.

Look up the FBI stats and you will see plain as day that knives are used to kill many times more than rifles.

 

[Faun]

Sorry, but I am not responsible for your dementia.

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

That was you I used a perfectly valid psychological term.

Like I said you need to get a hold of your emotions and think rationally

Just for a laugh... post s link to the data supporting your claim of how popular you think knives are...

I don't have to.

Look up the FBI stats and you will see plain as day that knives are used to kill many times more than rifles.

LOL

Thanks for confirming what I already knew. You’re basing your numbers on incomplete data.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Projecting again I see.

You might want to start thinking less emotionally

Great, now you reduce yourself to pre-K, I’m rubber, you’re glue, banter.

Figures.

That was you I used a perfectly valid psychological term.

Like I said you need to get a hold of your emotions and think rationally

Just for a laugh... post s link to the data supporting your claim of how popular you think knives are...

I don't have to.

Look up the FBI stats and you will see plain as day that knives are used to kill many times more than rifles.

LOL

Thanks for confirming what I already knew. You’re basing your numbers on incomplete data.

And yet you have not posted any
"complete" data have yiou?

 

[Dalia]

Hello Faun, read my post completely!

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I will not be so sure, we still don't have any motivation coming up ! a lot of Strange stuff are going on with this shooting.

1- The age of Paddock
2- the two broken Windows
3- The Room look from the 80's

compare too

4- the number 13 don't appear on the neck of " Paddock" on the ground

I cut the picture to show just the neck

Stephen Paddock Had '13' Tattoo On Neck, Photo Apparently Shows: Will Number Shed Light On #LasVegas Shooting?
5- Nobody call to say that he is shoot at the security gard ? and after starting at 10.00pm nobody is still not calling ?come on !
Despite the advance warnings, police did not show up on the 32nd floor until 10:17 p.m., two minutes after Paddock had, for reasons unknown, ended his 10-minute shooting spree, according to the Los Angeles Times report. With the six-minute time lag between Paddock’s attack on Campos and when he started shooting out the hotel windows, police apparently took at least 18 minutes to get to Paddock’s floor after calls were placed reporting a gunman there.
6- When Charlottesville happen the media talk about it for weeks after this shooting it last three days not a lot more.

Why do you refuse to address what I’m posting? You raise concern over the disappearance of a tattoo.....

Let’s see your proof that was a tattoo......

Did you look at the picture of him " Paddock" dead on the ground ?

Yeah, there’s nothing on his neck.

+ look very close at some détails.

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What do you see that is wrong ?

Nothing at all, except for a bunch of paranoid weirdos imagining a tattoo on his neck.

That is your opinion look at the dimensions of his wrist is not the same size and also his neck does not have the bead of old age I speak of "Paddock" lying on the ground

Here a new member who bring more information at the forum

munkle

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[westwall]

Not pointless. But they don't prevent murder. They just provide a means for punishment when the asshat is finally (if ever) caught.

Of course they prevent murders. What an absurd thing to say. Dude, take a break...you have chosen an untenable position, and it is making you say bizarre things.

Really? I can't think of a single murder that has been prevented because they are against the law. Do provide a link for a case where the law prevented a murder. I am truly interested.

. No law prevents all murder, all speeding or anything in the like, but if caught then we can say during the trial that you knew the law, and yet you decided to break it, and now the punishment under the law will be this. This is supposed to act as a deterrent against others who may consider doing the same, but because they know about the law, and what happened to the law breaker, then it hopefully will cause the new potential law breaker to not go down the same path.

Ummm. Had you bothered to read my response that is what I stated. Laws don't prevent crime. They merely codify the punishment for doing the crime. You people want to punish tens of millions of people for the criminal misdeeds of a few thousand people. Sounds kind of dumb. You all claiming to want life to be "fair" and all.

Not being able to own a machine gun is punishment?

Yes. I own several and if you take them away for no cause that is indeed punishment. Punishment of a financial nature as they are fantastic investments, punishment of a loss of freedom to pursue happiness as I enjoy shooting them, and punishment of a lack of due process as you are punishing ME for the criminal misdeeds of a few who will ignore your stupid law ANYWAY.