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Cutting enough wood to last all winter would be almost impossible. Even with the right machines which cost thousands of dollars it is still a huge amount of work. Buying a few cords of wood and supplementing with propane or electric heat is more feasible. Pellet stoves are also popular here and the pellets can be purchased at many outlets. I don't have one so I do not know what the cost/BUTs would be.
The biggest thing that strikes me is that one person will have their hands full taking care of the place and two disabled people. That right there is likely a full time job which would not leave a lot of time or energy for heavy labor which living off of the land entails. I would seriously think of locating on the edge of town in a rural area where other folks raise animals and have yearly gardens where you would also have basic utilities available.
A person can get a nice 2 acre place with a house and add a decent 5th. wheel trailer or regular tow trailer under an aluminum RV cover for what you have available in your budget. In the right area you would have your pick of places starting at what about 90K or so for a place that isn't devolved real well. Spending a bit more will get you a better house maybe a stand alone garage or metal building along with your couple of acres. All a travel trailer for another residence for a single guy would need is a sewer hook up, water and an extension cord with 35 or 50 amps of service. The sewer hookup can also be worked around with a portable tank or a Macerator sewage pump .
I don't know about *thousands* of dollars to cut enough wood for a winter...you get your permit (I don't know how much it costs, but it isn't much), and a chain saw, and a truck.....if you already have the truck then really your only expense is fuel...and time. The chainsaw, if you don't have one, costs anywhere from $200 up.
What did you do in 1999/2000 - Y2K?Okay, my husband is getting ready to retire. We are looking at the complete collapse of our monetary system due to debt that we can't possibly pay (American's debt, not ours). So we are considering purchasing some land off in the boonies hoping we can live off the land in our old age. Any suggestions as to where we could retire? Where we could find land with water that was cheap enough and in a good area? Someplace we can put a couple of small homes on, one for us and one for our adult child who is disabled? Preferably someplace close to where we could go hunting for food. Would be cool if there was someplace close by that we could go fishing and it all has to cost about $200,000 or less.
Is this impossible? Any suggestions? We would prefer to stay in our state due to our other disabled child who is in a home and we want to be close to him too.
Also suggestions...my husband is considering closing out his VIP account (most call it a 401K) due to the government threatening to take it over. My husband would then invest that money in the land, a home or improvements on the land and we'd live on social security and Boeing's retirement plan for as long as that lasts. Does anybody think this is a good idea or bad idea? Why or why not?
What skills do you have?
Can you build, farm, can food, do repairs, hunt, dress game, raise animals for food etc?
I have a book, and I can follow directions. IOW, I can do just about anything I set my mind to do.
I have a book, and I can follow directions. IOW, I can do just about anything I set my mind to do.
Isn't your husband disabled?
You're going to pack it up and move to the boonies and live off the land with a disabled husband...and you have no survival skills?
Wow.
Get a place with a good well. If you're going to live off the land, you need to be able to grow a big garden, and have pasture for animals. Good luck.
Well, I don't intend to totally live off the land, but I do think a garden is a given. I also want chickens and possibly a goat. And I think it would be nice if we could go hunting nearby, though I realize my son or I would be the one's doing the hunting, I don't think my husband can hold a gun steady enough. My husband has parkinson's and I think the extra work with his hands and no pressure would actually be good for him, and it doesn't have to be perfect. He used to be a painter as in art. He can still do it, though not as well. And yes, we need a place with a good well, we'll probably have the houses built, small one's. Or one house with a mother in law apartment. I don't want too much land, 5 acres should be fine. I'm not looking to go into farming and make a living off of the land, only to subsidize our lifestyle. And I want to be able to use a wood stove. I live in the city right now and our winter energy bills are up to $600 a month. We can't burn in our woodstove unless it's our only source of heat so that's out. I was jealous when I saw my friends utility bills for her house built in the early 1900's. $200 for EVERYTHING. Of course her house is a lot smaller than ours. We definitely need to go with a smaller house. I also wouldn't mind finding a group of people that do live off the land that would be willing to help us to learn.
Of course all this right now is talk. I'm just sick of not being warm because out county won't let us use our woodstove and I also would like to have chickens as I love fresh eggs but that can't be done in our city on our lot. I think I liked it better before we became a city.
Okay, my husband is getting ready to retire. We are looking at the complete collapse of our monetary system due to debt that we can't possibly pay (American's debt, not ours). So we are considering purchasing some land off in the boonies hoping we can live off the land in our old age. Any suggestions as to where we could retire? Where we could find land with water that was cheap enough and in a good area? Someplace we can put a couple of small homes on, one for us and one for our adult child who is disabled? Preferably someplace close to where we could go hunting for food. Would be cool if there was someplace close by that we could go fishing and it all has to cost about $200,000 or less.
Is this impossible? Any suggestions? We would prefer to stay in our state due to our other disabled child who is in a home and we want to be close to him too.
Also suggestions...my husband is considering closing out his VIP account (most call it a 401K) due to the government threatening to take it over. My husband would then invest that money in the land, a home or improvements on the land and we'd live on social security and Boeing's retirement plan for as long as that lasts. Does anybody think this is a good idea or bad idea? Why or why not?
You are a fool if you close your 401k before you turn 59. The government is not going to "take it over". I don't know who is filling your head with this stupid shit, but you should stop listening to them. Seriously.
If you withdraw your money early, then the government really WILL take it over. They will penalize the shit out of an early withdrawal.
Idaho is popular with crazies who think the country is going to go down the tubes any day now. Try there.
Get the hell out of the country while you still can.Okay, my husband is getting ready to retire. We are looking at the complete collapse of our monetary system due to debt that we can't possibly pay (American's debt, not ours).
Seriously....I would.
What did you do in 1999/2000 - Y2K?Okay, my husband is getting ready to retire. We are looking at the complete collapse of our monetary system due to debt that we can't possibly pay (American's debt, not ours). So we are considering purchasing some land off in the boonies hoping we can live off the land in our old age. Any suggestions as to where we could retire? Where we could find land with water that was cheap enough and in a good area? Someplace we can put a couple of small homes on, one for us and one for our adult child who is disabled? Preferably someplace close to where we could go hunting for food. Would be cool if there was someplace close by that we could go fishing and it all has to cost about $200,000 or less.
Is this impossible? Any suggestions? We would prefer to stay in our state due to our other disabled child who is in a home and we want to be close to him too.
Also suggestions...my husband is considering closing out his VIP account (most call it a 401K) due to the government threatening to take it over. My husband would then invest that money in the land, a home or improvements on the land and we'd live on social security and Boeing's retirement plan for as long as that lasts. Does anybody think this is a good idea or bad idea? Why or why not?
You sound like a complete whacko. You need to get away from whomever you are isolated with and seek help in the outside world
Your 2 disabled adult children? SSDI...housing assistance...lots of money and assistance there...those children need to get away from you. Hopefully somebody will report you to social services
Does your husband, you, or your children own weapons? Do you people have a history of mental illness? This would help us give you adequate advice
Isn't your husband disabled?
You're going to pack it up and move to the boonies and live off the land with a disabled husband...and you have no survival skills?
Wow.
Get a place with a good well. If you're going to live off the land, you need to be able to grow a big garden, and have pasture for animals. Good luck.
Well, I don't intend to totally live off the land, but I do think a garden is a given. I also want chickens and possibly a goat. And I think it would be nice if we could go hunting nearby, though I realize my son or I would be the one's doing the hunting, I don't think my husband can hold a gun steady enough. My husband has parkinson's and I think the extra work with his hands and no pressure would actually be good for him, and it doesn't have to be perfect. He used to be a painter as in art. He can still do it, though not as well. And yes, we need a place with a good well, we'll probably have the houses built, small one's. Or one house with a mother in law apartment. I don't want too much land, 5 acres should be fine. I'm not looking to go into farming and make a living off of the land, only to subsidize our lifestyle. And I want to be able to use a wood stove. I live in the city right now and our winter energy bills are up to $600 a month. We can't burn in our woodstove unless it's our only source of heat so that's out. I was jealous when I saw my friends utility bills for her house built in the early 1900's. $200 for EVERYTHING. Of course her house is a lot smaller than ours. We definitely need to go with a smaller house. I also wouldn't mind finding a group of people that do live off the land that would be willing to help us to learn.
Of course all this right now is talk. I'm just sick of not being warm because out county won't let us use our woodstove and I also would like to have chickens as I love fresh eggs but that can't be done in our city on our lot. I think I liked it better before we became a city.
Okay, this is it. Either you are drinking while posting or screaming out for help. Anyone here who knows who you are has a civic and moral duty to report you to the authorities before you hurt yourself or others
Okay, my husband is getting ready to retire. We are looking at the complete collapse of our monetary system due to debt that we can't possibly pay (American's debt, not ours). So we are considering purchasing some land off in the boonies hoping we can live off the land in our old age. Any suggestions as to where we could retire? Where we could find land with water that was cheap enough and in a good area? Someplace we can put a couple of small homes on, one for us and one for our adult child who is disabled? Preferably someplace close to where we could go hunting for food. Would be cool if there was someplace close by that we could go fishing and it all has to cost about $200,000 or less.
Is this impossible? Any suggestions? We would prefer to stay in our state due to our other disabled child who is in a home and we want to be close to him too.
Also suggestions...my husband is considering closing out his VIP account (most call it a 401K) due to the government threatening to take it over. My husband would then invest that money in the land, a home or improvements on the land and we'd live on social security and Boeing's retirement plan for as long as that lasts. Does anybody think this is a good idea or bad idea? Why or why not?
Your plan has a major flaw. It is based on a monetary collapse but then depends on federal and pension retirement. If there is a monetary collapse those resources won't be there.
Living off the land is hard work 7 days a week just for basic necessities. You're better off living near some small town in a mild climate and living as cheap as you can while stockpiling the rest in some sort of liquid assets (gold, silver, grain, simple grain machinery, lifestock). If no collapse occurs you'll be happy knowing you're alive and prepared while living simply. If a collapse occurs you'll have items of value that you can barter for the necessities you can't provide for yourselves.
My plan has a lot of flaws, it's all just talk right now and to get ideas from other people. Suggestions as to which small town and why?
Costa Rica is supposedly quite friendly to Americans - and cheap!
In that cabin, note the size of the windows. If you're living in a cold clime, you want to really think hard before putting in big picture windows. They suck the heat right out of your house and your bones.
This story of family is creepy at best. AS sounds demented and in need of some serious help
