Kyle Rittenhouse says he is destroying the AR-15 rifle he used in Kenosha and doesn't want anything to do with it

[Soupnazi630]

But we can see in the image that the right hand with the pistol, is actually behind Grosskreutz.
It is obvious.
He could not possibly have been aiming or even pointing it unless he had a mirror.

Yes it is obvious he is pointing it at Rittenhouse.

Arms moves along multiple axis's so it is not only possible it is proven by the image as an absolute certianty

 

[Soupnazi630]

An expired CCW license is not a crime.
The renewal is only $22, and requires no additional classes or training.
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CCW licenses must be renewed every five years and the Wisconsin DOJ issues renewal notices 120 days in advance of the license’s expiration date. Current CCW license holders should not apply for a renewal until they receive their renewal notice by mail. Notifications contain a Unique Identification Number and instructions for each license holder.
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Since 5 years is so long and a person can easily not get their renewal notice in the mail, it is common people are carrying with an expired CCW.



CCW license renewals cost $22, do not require new or additional training, and will expire five years from the date the new license is issued. New CCW licenses require an approved training and $40 fee. License renewals and new applications will be processed within 21 days, per Wisconsin State Statute.


Are you suggesting that a reasonable 17 year old should go to a known violent demonstration with a loaded rifle?

No one said an expired CCW is a crime.

It IS howevver a crime to continue to carry a weapon with an expired CCW

 

[2aguy]

Yes it is obvious he is pointing it at Rittenhouse.

Arms moves along multiple axis's so it is not only possible it is proven by the image as an absolute certianty

He stated in court he was pointing the gun at kyle when he was shot............you don't have to look at any "Axis" to know this...

 

[2aguy]

No one said an expired CCW is a crime.

It IS howevver a crime to continue to carry a weapon with an expired CCW

He also lied to the police on where his gun was...he told them initially it had fallen from his pants......when he was holding it....

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
If someone attacks you with a bat, you are free to reply in defense with a bat, and nothing greater, like a knife or gun.
The only exception is if you are an invalid in some way, and can not defend yourself physically.

Wrong you unbelievable fool.

When one attacks you with a deadly weapon be it a knife bat gun or improvised weapon you are NOT limited to responding in kind.

You are in fact legallly permited to use a firearm against such an attack

You know nothing of this issue and you are wrong under the law and in every other sense.

There is NO LEGAL restriction of any kind as you describe

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
That is the logic of law makers who want to prevent people from bullying and murdering with a rifle.

Wrong you liar.

Rittenhouse bullied or murdered no one

Your argument is a weak invalid and failed defense of left wing scum who wished to riot.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Notice the police did not charge.
A criminal offense is the violation of the rights of others.
Being behind in a semi annual fee is a civil, administrative cost only.

Criminal offenses are not limited to violations of the rights of others.

Carrying with an expired permit is a crime whether they charged him or not.

 

[daveman]

Wrong.
If someone attacks you with a bat, you are free to reply in defense with a bat, and nothing greater, like a knife or gun.
The only exception is if you are an invalid in some way, and can not defend yourself physically.

Good Gaea, you sure are pissed that one of your leftist heroes didn't murder the boy.

 

[daveman]

Grosscrud stated in court, under oath, that yes, he was pointing the pistol at kyle when he was shot.......

NO WAIT THAT DOESNT MATTER AN INTERNET LEFTIST WHO WASNT THERE AND WHO WAS FED A CAREFULLY CRAFTED VISION SAYS ITS IMPOSSIBLE THE BOY WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF

 

[Rigby5]

Yes it is obvious he is pointing it at Rittenhouse.

Arms moves along multiple axis's so it is not only possible it is proven by the image as an absolute certianty

Impossible.
We see the sideways image of the pistol, even though the image is from behind Kyle, towards Grosskreuts.
We also see part of Grosskreutz's back, which means he can NOT be pointing the gun, because it is in high RIGHT hand, which is AWAY from Kyle, not towards him.

The image proves with absolute certainty that Grosskreutz was NOT aiming at Kyle when Kyle pulled the trigger.

And who shoots at a person in a MedTech uniform?
If Kyle was innocent, it is Kyle who should have put his hands up and surrendered to the MedTech.

 

[Rigby5]

He stated in court he was pointing the gun at kyle when he was shot............you don't have to look at any "Axis" to know this...

Wrong.
The defense lawyer did not follow a time sequence and was deliberately getting things our of order.
Of course Kyle shot AFTER Grosskreutz pointed the pistol at him, but MUCH later.
By the time Kyle recycled the rifle after the misfire, than Grosskreutz was NO LONGER pointing the pistol at Kyle.
He only pointed the pistol at Kyler at the very first, when he suspected Kyle was the out of control danger to everyone else.

 

[Flash]

Impossible.
We see the sideways image of the pistol, even though the image is from behind Kyle, towards Grosskreuts.
We also see part of Grosskreutz's back, which means he can NOT be pointing the gun, because it is in high RIGHT hand, which is AWAY from Kyle, not towards him.

The image proves with absolute certainty that Grosskreutz was NOT aiming at Kyle when Kyle pulled the trigger.

And who shoots at a person in a MedTech uniform?
If Kyle was innocent, it is Kyle who should have put his hands up and surrendered to the MedTech.

You moron. You are delusion.

The jury saw all the pictures and videos the Prosecution could muster and listened to all the testimony including GG telling them that Kyle didn't shoot until he pointed his Glock at him and came to the conclusion it was self defense.

All you have is your distorted Moon Bat hate somebody that used an AR-15 for self defense mindset.

 

[Rigby5]

He also lied to the police on where his gun was...he told them initially it had fallen from his pants......when he was holding it....

Wrong.
The gun did fall to the ground, just as Grosskreutz said.
And the poor responses that night were due to the pain and pain medication, not deliberate deception.
He never lied about anything, and was the most credible person in the entire courtroom.

{...

Gaige Grosskreutz admits that several details from initial questioning contained errors​

In a lengthy cross-examination Monday, defense attorney Corey Chirafisi made a broad attempt at discrediting Gaige Grosskreutz, who was shot in the arm by Kyle Rittenhouse.

Over the course of an hour, Chirafisi got Grosskreutz to admit that several of his statements made to police shortly after the shooting included either incorrect details or omitted others — most notably that Grosskreutz pointed a gun at Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse fired on him.

Grosskreutz initially told police that he dropped his gun at some point during the incident and didn’t mention that he pointed it at Rittenhouse.

He said it was not an intentional omission, noting that his interview with police occurred after surgery, while he was still on pain medication and coming down from the traumatic events of the shooting.

But, after questioning from Chirafisi, Grosskreutz did acknowledge it was the only detail he failed to mention, having been able to even describe the clothing Rittenhouse wore the night of the shooting.
...}

The fact Grosskreutz initially aimed at Kyle does NOT mean Kyle was at risk when he later pulled the trigger.
Since Kyle had a misfire and had to recycle the action, it should have been clear to Kyle that Grosskreutz was not going to shoot and was not a threat.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong you unbelievable fool.

When one attacks you with a deadly weapon be it a knife bat gun or improvised weapon you are NOT limited to responding in kind.

You are in fact legallly permited to use a firearm against such an attack

You know nothing of this issue and you are wrong under the law and in every other sense.

There is NO LEGAL restriction of any kind as you describe

If the attacker does not have a lethal weapon, then you can NOT escalate to a lethal weapon.
That is the law in all states.
The fact a person can be killed with a toothpick, does not allow you to respond with lethal force to a toothpick attack because it is trivial to defeat the attack by other means.
And if the person has a gun out already, like Kyle did, then he provoked the situation, and has no defense at all left.

 

[Rigby5]

Wrong you liar.

Rittenhouse bullied or murdered no one

Your argument is a weak invalid and failed defense of left wing scum who wished to riot.

Rioting is essential when government murders people.
If you do not riot after a government murder, then you are a traitor.

Kyle was a traitor for bringing the rifle.

 

[Rigby5]

Criminal offenses are not limited to violations of the rights of others.

Carrying with an expired permit is a crime whether they charged him or not.

Wrong.

Government ONLY has authority to prosecute anyone due to their harm to the rights of others.
There is NO OTHER source of any legal authority in a democratic republic.

And a failure to renew a CCW by sending in $22 is not at all criminal, since it is likely the notification was the cause after the 5 year permit duration.
If anyone would be charged with a crime for being expired by a short period on a CCW, then the police and prosecutor should be fired immediately.
CCW is an individual right that should only be excluded to a very few people.
It is not a privilege at the whim of government.

 

[Rigby5]

Good Gaea, you sure are pissed that one of your leftist heroes didn't murder the boy.

Anyone bringing a rifle to a riot should be shot or disarmed, instantly.

 

[Flash]

Wrong.
The gun did fall to the ground, just as Grosskreutz said.
And the poor responses that night were due to the pain and pain medication, not deliberate deception.
He never lied about anything, and was the most credible person in the entire courtroom.

{...

Gaige Grosskreutz admits that several details from initial questioning contained errors​

In a lengthy cross-examination Monday, defense attorney Corey Chirafisi made a broad attempt at discrediting Gaige Grosskreutz, who was shot in the arm by Kyle Rittenhouse.

Over the course of an hour, Chirafisi got Grosskreutz to admit that several of his statements made to police shortly after the shooting included either incorrect details or omitted others — most notably that Grosskreutz pointed a gun at Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse fired on him.

Grosskreutz initially told police that he dropped his gun at some point during the incident and didn’t mention that he pointed it at Rittenhouse.

He said it was not an intentional omission, noting that his interview with police occurred after surgery, while he was still on pain medication and coming down from the traumatic events of the shooting.

But, after questioning from Chirafisi, Grosskreutz did acknowledge it was the only detail he failed to mention, having been able to even describe the clothing Rittenhouse wore the night of the shooting.
...}

The fact Grosskreutz initially aimed at Kyle does NOT mean Kyle was at risk when he later pulled the trigger.
Since Kyle had a misfire and had to recycle the action, it should have been clear to Kyle that Grosskreutz was not going to shoot and was not a threat.

If you are convinced that Kyle is guilty as sin then why don't you put all your evidence together and then sent it to Little Finger? If your evidence is compelling enough it may be good enough to give Little Finger what he needs to file an appeal. Who knows, if your evidence is compelling it may be strong enough to get the Supreme Court to negate the Double Jeopardy immunity Kyle has at this time.

That way you will be doing something useful rather than posting silly ass lying shit on an Internet Discussion Forum and having us ridicule you for your stupidity.

 

[daveman]

Wrong.
The gun did fall to the ground, just as Grosskreutz said.
And the poor responses that night were due to the pain and pain medication, not deliberate deception.
He never lied about anything, and was the most credible person in the entire courtroom.

{...

Gaige Grosskreutz admits that several details from initial questioning contained errors​

In a lengthy cross-examination Monday, defense attorney Corey Chirafisi made a broad attempt at discrediting Gaige Grosskreutz, who was shot in the arm by Kyle Rittenhouse.

Over the course of an hour, Chirafisi got Grosskreutz to admit that several of his statements made to police shortly after the shooting included either incorrect details or omitted others — most notably that Grosskreutz pointed a gun at Rittenhouse before Rittenhouse fired on him.

Grosskreutz initially told police that he dropped his gun at some point during the incident and didn’t mention that he pointed it at Rittenhouse.

He said it was not an intentional omission, noting that his interview with police occurred after surgery, while he was still on pain medication and coming down from the traumatic events of the shooting.

But, after questioning from Chirafisi, Grosskreutz did acknowledge it was the only detail he failed to mention, having been able to even describe the clothing Rittenhouse wore the night of the shooting.
...}

The fact Grosskreutz initially aimed at Kyle does NOT mean Kyle was at risk when he later pulled the trigger.
Since Kyle had a misfire and had to recycle the action, it should have been clear to Kyle that Grosskreutz was not going to shoot and was not a threat.

Are you getting paid for this horseshit?

Or are you just really, really butthurt that the person with the scary black rifle wasn't murdered by your leftist heroes?

 

[daveman]

Anyone bringing a rifle to a riot should be shot or disarmed, instantly.

That's not how we do things in America, Comrade.