Kyle Rittenhouse defense again tries, fails to get gun possession charge dropped

[Rigby5]

You're full of shit.
He admitted he pointed his pistol at Kyle before Kyle shot him.
Thats where the face palm from the prosecutor came from.

Rittenhouse Shooting Survivor Thought He Was ‘Going To Die’—Was Shot After Pointing His Own Gun

Gaige Grosskreutz said he advanced toward Rittenhouse because he thought he was an “active shooter” during his testimony Monday.

www.forbes.com

That is not Grosskreutz on the stand, so the face palm can not possibly be from Grosskreutz testimony.
And Grosskreutz is on record as saying he at one time had pointed at Kyle, but that his hands were up in the air when shot.
The trajectory through his arm would otherwise be impossible.

 

[AZrailwhale]

And are you actually going to claim a minor can legally have a loaded firearm in public?
Then explain why the police immediately shot and killed 12 year old Tamir Rice playing with his air soft toy?

Because he kept pointing what looked exactly like a real gun at people. If he hadn't painted over the orange barrel tip on his "toy" to make it look real, he would still be alive.

 

[Rigby5]

It wasn't illegally dismissed by the judge........get your Rittenhouse Syndrome checked out before your brain completely melts down.........

Tamir Rice didn't put his replica gun down when the police thought it was a working pistol...you doofus......not even close to an accurate example...

The police instantly shot Tamir Rice, without warning.
And the point is the police have only the same right to fire in defense that EVERYONE has.
So then if the police can shoot Tamir Rice for waving around a toy pistol, then EVERYONE can shoot Kyle for waving around a real rifle.

 

[Rigby5]

Because he kept pointing what looked exactly like a real gun at people. If he hadn't painted over the orange barrel tip on his "toy" to make it look real, he would still be alive.

Doesn't matter if it was real or not.
The point is Kyle was even more of a threat because it was a high capacity rifle, with a much longer range, and much more of a deadly threat.

 

[2aguy]

That is not Grosskreutz on the stand, so the face palm can not possibly be from Grosskreutz testimony.
And Grosskreutz is on record as saying he at one time had pointed at Kyle, but that his hands were up in the air when shot.
The trajectory through his arm would otherwise be impossible.

I posted his testimony.......twice...one video after the other......

He confirmed, under oath, that Kyle did not shoot him when his hands were up...he was shot when his pistol was pointed at Kyle....

You can't deny this.......it's on fucking video............part of the actual trial record..........

If you keep denying he said this, you are going to look like an even bigger idiot.

 

[Orangecat]

No one cares what the prosecution thinks, because prosecutors usually are ex-police, and work with the police so closely, they do what the police want.

Wow, you're really piling on the BS there. Police are generally pissed off that your Soros-bought prosecutors keep cycling their arrests back onto the streets.

 

[Rigby5]

It wasn't illegally dismissed by the judge........get your Rittenhouse Syndrome checked out before your brain completely melts down.........

Tamir Rice didn't put his replica gun down when the police thought it was a working pistol...you doofus......not even close to an accurate example...

The judge had no basis in fact or law to dismiss the illegal possession by a minor charge.
It was the single most guilty I had ever heard of, except unless if he had been even younger.

The facts ARE that is was illegal for Kyle to be in possession of any firearm, while not at a range, not under adult supervision, not hunting with a valid permit, etc.
That is absolute, incontrovertible, and the only possible rational interpretation of very easy to read laws.
Otherwise it would have been illegal to shoot Tamir Rice even if he had a real firearm.

 

[2aguy]

The police instantly shot Tamir Rice, without warning.
And the point is the police have only the same right to fire in defense that EVERYONE has.
So then if the police can shoot Tamir Rice for waving around a toy pistol, then EVERYONE can shoot Kyle for waving around a real rifle.

And they could argue self defense in court.....and possibly win...but that isn't what they did.........and just because they make the allegation that they thought he was an active shooter, doesn't strip Kyle of his Right to self defense when they are wrong........Andrew Branca, an expert in self defense law at Legal Insurrection and the Law of Self Defense site goes through this with great detail...you should try reading it....before you post more silliness...

 

[2aguy]

That is not Grosskreutz on the stand, so the face palm can not possibly be from Grosskreutz testimony.
And Grosskreutz is on record as saying he at one time had pointed at Kyle, but that his hands were up in the air when shot.
The trajectory through his arm would otherwise be impossible.

At the 1:59 mark on the video..

 

[2aguy]

The judge had no basis in fact or law to dismiss the illegal possession by a minor charge.
It was the single most guilty I had ever heard of, except unless if he had been even younger.

The facts ARE that is was illegal for Kyle to be in possession of any firearm, while not at a range, not under adult supervision, not hunting with a valid permit, etc.
That is absolute, incontrovertible, and the only possible rational interpretation of very easy to read laws.
Otherwise it would have been illegal to shoot Tamir Rice even if he had a real firearm.

Yes......dipshit...he does........the law in Wisconsin allows him to do that.....

You are just insane to keep to this fake argument........

Andrew Branca covered the two sections of the law that had to apply in order for Kyle to illegally possess the rifle...he didn't meet them.....

Just stop.....you are destroying yourself here....

 

[Orangecat]

No one needs a 30 shot magazine for civilian use, and he almost emptied it.

6 shots "almost empties" a 30 round magazine? Lulz. Give it up, tardo.

 

[2aguy]

The judge had no basis in fact or law to dismiss the illegal possession by a minor charge.
It was the single most guilty I had ever heard of, except unless if he had been even younger.

The facts ARE that is was illegal for Kyle to be in possession of any firearm, while not at a range, not under adult supervision, not hunting with a valid permit, etc.
That is absolute, incontrovertible, and the only possible rational interpretation of very easy to read laws.
Otherwise it would have been illegal to shoot Tamir Rice even if he had a real firearm.

Here...maybe reading it will work on your brain better than actually hearing grosscrud say it under oath in court...

From the BBC...

Under tense cross-examination on Monday, the defendant's lawyer, Corey Chirafisi, asked Mr Grosskreutz: "When you were standing three to five feet from him with your arms up in the air, he never fired, right?"
"Correct," Mr Grosskreutz said.
"It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced on him, with your gun, now your hands down pointed at him, that he fired, right?" Mr Chirafisi continued.
"Correct," Mr Grosskreutz said.

Man shot by Kyle Rittenhouse says he pointed own gun amid fears for life

Gaige Grosskreutz says he believed Kyle Rittenhouse was an "active shooter" and was trying to disarm him.

www.bbc.com

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That is not Grosskreutz on the stand, so the face palm can not possibly be from Grosskreutz testimony.
And Grosskreutz is on record as saying he at one time had pointed at Kyle, but that his hands were up in the air when shot.
The trajectory through his arm would otherwise be impossible.

Nope,thats him.

 

[Rigby5]

I posted his testimony.......twice...one video after the other......

He confirmed, under oath, that Kyle did not shoot him when his hands were up...he was shot when his pistol was pointed at Kyle....

You can't deny this.......it's on fucking video............part of the actual trial record..........

If you keep denying he said this, you are going to look like an even bigger idiot.

Wrong.
That was not complete, in sequence, or the relevant parts.
The is the InfoWars version.

The real version says Kyle's gun jammed, and Grosskreutz could easily have killed Kyle if he wanted, but instead raised his hands.
But Kyle racked to recock, and shot him anyway.

{...
During the demonstration, Grosskreutz held a water bottle in his left hand, where his cellphone was, and a portable microphone stood in for the gun in his right. He held the mic up near his ear.
...
Grosskreutz said he had come alone to Kenosha that night, to provide assistance to demonstrators. A trained paramedic, he said he had been going to protests to do so all summer.

"Is that how you'd hold a firearm if you were going to shoot it?" Binger asked. He said no.

Chirafisi countered with a photo of Grosskreutz just as the bullet hit his arm. It's lower, and the gun is more oriented toward Rittenhouse, though not directly aimed in an outstretched arm.
...}
Not only was Grosskreutz a paramedic, but was wearing a well identified paramedic uniform when Kyle shot him.

 

[Flash]

What I learned from Kyle Rittenhouse:

1. A $499 AR will work just as good as my Tier I ARs.

2. I don't need an expensive scope to waste Commies.

3. The cheapest sling you can buy will work good enough.

 

[boedicca]

You're either an IDIOT or a foreigner who doesn't know US law. Not guilty verdicts can't be appealed. The prosecution gets one bite at the apple. with the government's resources that's usually plenty.

That's why the Barking Seals in the Media keep yelping "crossed state lines". They want the Feds to go after Kyle.

 

[boedicca]

Wrong.
That was not complete, in sequence, or the relevant parts.
The is the InfoWars version.

The real version says Kyle's gun jammed, and Grosskreutz could easily have killed Kyle if he wanted, but instead raised his hands.
But Kyle racked to recock, and shot him anyway.

{...
During the demonstration, Grosskreutz held a water bottle in his left hand, where his cellphone was, and a portable microphone stood in for the gun in his right. He held the mic up near his ear.
...
Grosskreutz said he had come alone to Kenosha that night, to provide assistance to demonstrators. A trained paramedic, he said he had been going to protests to do so all summer.

"Is that how you'd hold a firearm if you were going to shoot it?" Binger asked. He said no.

Chirafisi countered with a photo of Grosskreutz just as the bullet hit his arm. It's lower, and the gun is more oriented toward Rittenhouse, though not directly aimed in an outstretched arm.
...}
Not only was Grosskreutz a paramedic, but was wearing a well identified paramedic uniform when Kyle shot him.

That's not the Real Version, swampy.

 

[2aguy]

Wrong.
That was not complete, in sequence, or the relevant parts.
The is the InfoWars version.

The real version says Kyle's gun jammed, and Grosskreutz could easily have killed Kyle if he wanted, but instead raised his hands.
But Kyle racked to recock, and shot him anyway.

{...
During the demonstration, Grosskreutz held a water bottle in his left hand, where his cellphone was, and a portable microphone stood in for the gun in his right. He held the mic up near his ear.
...
Grosskreutz said he had come alone to Kenosha that night, to provide assistance to demonstrators. A trained paramedic, he said he had been going to protests to do so all summer.

"Is that how you'd hold a firearm if you were going to shoot it?" Binger asked. He said no.

Chirafisi countered with a photo of Grosskreutz just as the bullet hit his arm. It's lower, and the gun is more oriented toward Rittenhouse, though not directly aimed in an outstretched arm.
...}
Not only was Grosskreutz a paramedic, but was wearing a well identified paramedic uniform when Kyle shot him.

You are fucking delusional..............I showed you actual footage from the actual testimony, in court, under oath..............

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And are you actually going to claim a minor can legally have a loaded firearm in public?
Then explain why the police immediately shot and killed 12 year old Tamir Rice playing with his air soft toy?

Why did the judge dismiss the charge?

 

[2aguy]

What I learned from Kyle Rittenhouse:

1. A $499 AR will work just as good as my Tier I ARs.

2. I don't need an expensive scope to waste Commies.

3. The cheapest sling you can buy will work good enough.

And you don't need a lot of training to use a gun effectively........so the whole anti-gun tactic of demanding mandatory training is just that, a tactic to make it harder for normal people to own guns...