Kursk. Surrender or Die

Naivete like that should hurt.

Anyone who can take control of speech and national narratives will be popular. If all your media tells you what a glorious leader your president is and how everyone else is bad and stupid, then odds are very good that's exactly what you'll believe along with the rest of whatever propaganda Dear Leader wants you to believe.

Authoritarians tend to be much more popular than leaders in open democratic societies, because public criticism and oppostion is squashed.
So no evidence? Got it. Head off to some children's forum, that 'because I say so' nonsense might convince them. It won't fly here.
 
Of course it didn't, because Russia invaded in 2014 anyway, three years after Ukraine instituted neutrality law.

Do you at all get the concept of cause and effect?

Russia did not invade because Ukraine wanted NATO membership, it's exactly the other way around - Ukraine wanted NATO membership because Russia invaded.
You need to understand what a calendar is. From post 55, “….2002 and entered into NATO's Intensified Dialogue program in 2005.”

If you can do some simple math, you will understand that the Ukes were in a dialogue about NATO back in 2005.
 
Russia did this to Ukraine, specifically, on purpose.

Can anybody blame the Ukrainians for preferring to fight to the death rather than submit to Russian rule? Ever again??

Why do so many CHOOSE to ignore this? While the Holocaust is mentioned every hour of every day in every corner of the world, people seem to want to hide the Holodomor from public view.

I know why but it would do no good to explain it to the mental deficients in here. Insult intended.

FUCK Russia. Fuck the Russian People. Stalin did this to Ukraine (called them 'Kulaks') mostly because the Russians were (and still are) too stupid, too lazy and too drunk to feed their own people but also because, the Russians didn't, and still don't, like people willing to work for something, willing to commit, willing to be successful. The word 'russia' should go down in history as a synonym for 'stupid and failure'. Every problem the world has had for the last 100 years, Russia has been at the center of it.

WW1, they ran away, WW2; they helped Hitler start it. Korea: They were the aggressors, same with Viet Nam, Malaysia, they armed the MidEast and introduced them to socialism. Here is the 'flag' of Arab socialism
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Look familiar? At all? AFAIC, Russia should be erased from the Map and all references to it scrubbed from history. Without a doubt, the most destructive country in human history. Pure garbage. And they contribute -- Nothing.

BTW, I am not Ukrainian, don't know any, and have never known any. I just don't like Russia or Russians. Primitive swine. Murdering pigs.


The Ukrainian Genocide​

"In the case of the Holodomor, this was the first genocide that was methodically planned out and perpetrated by depriving the very people who were producers of food of their nourishment (for survival). What is especially horrific is that the withholding of food was used as a weapon of genocide and that it was done in a region of the world known as the ‘breadbasket of Europe’.” – Prof. Andrea Graziosi, University of Naples.

An Introduction​

In 1932 and 1933, millions of Ukrainians were killed in the Holodomor, a man-made famine engineered by the Soviet government of Joseph Stalin. The primary victims of the Holodomor (literally "death inflicted by starvation") were rural farmers and villagers, who made up roughly 80 percent of Ukraine's population in the 1930s. While it is impossible to determine the precise number of victims of the Ukrainian genocide, most estimates by scholars range from roughly 3.5 million to 7 million (with some estimates going higher). The most detailed demographic studies estimate the death toll at 3.9 million. Historians agree that, as with other genocides, the precise number will never be known.

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Democrats: WE LOVE THE SHIT SHOW!!! HERE'S MORE WEAPONS AND MONEY!! KEEP KILLING!!!
Trump: THIS WAR MUST END AND THE KILLING MUST STOP!!!

That's the difference between the Party of War and the President of Peace.

You are a clueless dumbass who doesn’t understand anything about this conflict, which is why you believed Trump’s bullshit rhetoric.

Putin has now rejected ceasefire deal and Trump admin has resumed weapon supplies to Ukraine.

Roll that up and smoke it dummy.
 
Russia did this to Ukraine, specifically, on purpose.

Can anybody blame the Ukrainians for preferring to fight to the death rather than submit to Russian rule? Ever again??

Why do so many CHOOSE to ignore this? While the Holocaust is mentioned every hour of every day in every corner of the world, people seem to want to hide the Holodomor from public view.

I know why but it would do no good to explain it to the mental deficients in here. Insult intended.

FUCK Russia. Fuck the Russian People. Stalin did this to Ukraine (called them 'Kulaks') mostly because the Russians were (and still are) too stupid, too lazy and too drunk to feed their own people but also because, the Russians didn't, and still don't, like people willing to work for something, willing to commit, willing to be successful. The word 'russia' should go down in history as a synonym for 'stupid and failure'. Every problem the world has had for the last 100 years, Russia has been at the center of it.

WW1, they ran away, WW2; they helped Hitler start it. Korea: They were the aggressors, same with Viet Nam, Malaysia, they armed the MidEast and introduced them to socialism. Here is the 'flag' of Arab socialism View attachment 1089492
Look familiar? At all? AFAIC, Russia should be erased from the Map and all references to it scrubbed from history. Without a doubt, the most destructive country in human history. Pure garbage. And they contribute -- Nothing.

BTW, I am not Ukrainian, don't know any, and have never known any. I just don't like Russia or Russians. Primitive swine. Murdering pigs.


The Ukrainian Genocide​

"In the case of the Holodomor, this was the first genocide that was methodically planned out and perpetrated by depriving the very people who were producers of food of their nourishment (for survival). What is especially horrific is that the withholding of food was used as a weapon of genocide and that it was done in a region of the world known as the ‘breadbasket of Europe’.” – Prof. Andrea Graziosi, University of Naples.

An Introduction​

In 1932 and 1933, millions of Ukrainians were killed in the Holodomor, a man-made famine engineered by the Soviet government of Joseph Stalin. The primary victims of the Holodomor (literally "death inflicted by starvation") were rural farmers and villagers, who made up roughly 80 percent of Ukraine's population in the 1930s. While it is impossible to determine the precise number of victims of the Ukrainian genocide, most estimates by scholars range from roughly 3.5 million to 7 million (with some estimates going higher). The most detailed demographic studies estimate the death toll at 3.9 million. Historians agree that, as with other genocides, the precise number will never be known.

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Slight correction - Kulaks in USSR was not a name for Ukrainians it was name for relatively wealthy land and bussiness owners. Communist would show up, take everything away and redistribute it, usually in some self-serving and corrupt way.

One of my great grandfathers was visited like that a few times, each time everything was taken away and eventually sent to the front line with a “death squad” as punishment. He was one of very few to return.
 
So no evidence? Got it. Head off to some children's forum, that 'because I say so' nonsense might convince them. It won't fly here.
Evidence of what dumbass?

Putin is popular because he de-facto controls the media, receives no criticism and squashes/jails/kills off any viable opposition.

Publicly speaking out and protesting the war gets you arrested in Putin’s Russia for “discrediting the troops”.

Population has been mind fucked by decades of propaganda into saying insane shit like “I leave politics to politicians”, “If not Putin, then who?”.

What the hell don’t you get?
 
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Evidence of what dumbass?

Putin is popular because he de-facto controls the media, receives no criticism and squashes/jails/kills off opposition.

Publicly speaking out and protesting the war gets you arrested in Putin’s Russia for “discrediting the troops”.

What the fuck don’t you get?
More unsupported claims lacking any factual basis.
 
All you offer are silly insults and petty emotionally stunted opinions. How pathetic.
Do you speak Russian?

Do you watch Russian media?

Do you follow their politics?

Do you know what the fuck is going on there?

No? Then how about you stop posting bullshit and actually listen to someone who does.
 
Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons for security assistance assurances from United States, so the least we can do is keep our word and materially support their defensive war effort.

Another leftard LIE.

Leftards are so full of bullshit it's not even funny anymore.

It's a mistake to treat leftards as equals. They're not equals. They're ignorant and stupid.
 
You need to understand what a calendar is. From post 55, “….2002 and entered into NATO's Intensified Dialogue program in 2005.”

If you can do some simple math, you will understand that the Ukes were in a dialogue about NATO back in 2005.

Ok I’m clearly not dealing with someone who has minimal intellect required to understand basic timelines.

One final time:

Ukraine wanted NATO membership before 2010s

Ukraine abandoned those efforts in 2010’s and instead passed a popularly supported neutrality law 2011.

Putin invaded in 2014.

Anyone that can understand that simple timeline and still claims that Russian invasion in 2014 was due to some sort of NATO joining effort by Ukraine is very obviously not right in the head.
 
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Do you speak Russian?

Do you watch Russian media?

Do you follow their politics?

Do you know what the fuck is going on there?

No? Then how about you stop posting bullshit and actually listen to someone who does.
I follow Russian news and politics. Clearly it appears you do not.
 
Ok I’m clearly not dealing with someone who has minimal intellect required to understand basic timelines.

One final time:

Ukraine wanted NATO membership before 2010s

Ukraine abandoned those efforts in 2010’s and instead passed a popularly supported neutrality law 2011.

Putin invaded in 2014.

Anyone that can understand that simple timeline and still claims that Russian invasion in 2014 was due to some sort of NATO joining effort by Ukraine is very obviously not right in the head.

See? ^^^
 
I follow Russian news and politics. Clearly it appears you do not.
Ok, name ONE anti-war politician that was allowed to run in the election.

Name ONE opposition media outlet or viable political party in Russia that criticizes Putin.

Name ONE media outlet in Russia that criticizes the war.

When you can’t, fess up that you are full of bullshit.
 
Ok, name ONE anti-war politician that was allowed to run in the election.

Name ONE opposition media outlet or viable political party in Russia that criticizes Putin.

Name ONE media outlet in Russia that criticizes the war.

When you can’t, fess up that you are full of bullshit.
You could ask the same about Ukraine, oh wait they haven't even had elections. Yet, defending democracy, bla, bla, bla.
You're a clown.
 
Ok I’m clearly not dealing with someone who has minimal intellect required to understand basic timelines.

One final time:

Ukraine wanted NATO membership before 2010s

Ukraine abandoned those efforts in 2010’s and instead passed a popularly supported neutrality law 2011.

Putin invaded in 2014.

Anyone that can understand that simple timeline and still claims that Russian invasion in 2014 was due to some sort of NATO joining effort by Ukraine is very obviously not right in the head.
You’re clearly not able to understand some pretty basic concepts. As was expressed to you earlier, “From post 55, “….2002 and entered into NATO's Intensified Dialogue program in 2005.”.

We have this new fangled invention called a “calendar”. That piece of technology will tell you that calendar year 2005 came before 2014.

Good gawd you’re a dummy.
 
Putin has now rejected ceasefire deal and Trump admin has resumed weapon supplies to Ukraine.

Roll that up and smoke it dummy.

Good to see my long time summarised position being considered.

What is happening so far is two Deep State guys creating Theatre to prolong the conflict--- until early Autumn is my rough guess --- in the spirit of no conflict ever being any good unless it is ongoing.

Both of the leading Dancers will have their moments .

Pooty will be allowed to massacre more of the zero UAF force and Trumpfy will be given his times ----- moments as a hard working peace maker who this time round is finding it difficult to reach a quick decision .

But come the autumn, Deep State can launch their next Psy Op and perhaps with a lovely accompanying Pandemic to keep the Sheeple Herd cowering .
 
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