Kremlin says Russia is open to dialogue with Trump on Ukraine

[Delldude]

Trump is going to allow Putin to keep the Donba region. Trump loves mass-murdering warmongering dictators.

Told you people long time ago, invest in body bag stocks.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Ignoramus Trump can't legaly "defund" congressionally passed aid for the fiscal year. Biden sent out remaining apropriations right before leaving and there is no new funding package in the works yet.

Trump’s aid freeze leaves weapons flowing to Ukraine

Other aid flows were secured before Trump became president, but reconstruction aid may be affected by the freeze.

www.politico.eu

What Trump’s 90-day pause on US foreign development assistance means for Ukraine

Hours after taking office, U.S. President Donald Trump put a stop on U.S. foreign development assistance for 90 days to review and ensure it aligns with the new administration's policy. Ukraine tops the recipient list of U.S. development assistance, receiving over $17 billion in economic aid in

kyivindependent.com

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-reviews-plan-halt-us-military-aid-ukraine-unless-it-negotiates-peace-with-2024-06-25/

 

[TruthNotBS]

"Perfect in excution"?? You serious here?

How about not lying his ass off shamelessly? He had no serious plan, no means to make peace happen day one.

He just said whatever he felt he needed to say to fool whatever ignorant dupes he could and keep himself out of jail.

He knows that his core voters will never hold him to any sort of account or criticism. You'll just keep quiet or post ludecrous bs about "perfect execution"

I'll be happy if he stops the war within the next six months.

 

[TimFitz]

Only an idiot would take Trump LITERALLY at his word; when he said he could get the war settled in 24 hours, he was just saying quickly, figuratively. Context is everything. Trump spent almost half of his first 24 hours attending necessary inaugural events, then he had to eat and get some sleep. So likely, nothing was going to even start until today.

Leave it to leftist oafs to now declare: "Broken promises! Broken promises!" Especially in all the huge broken promises by Biden--- that guy literally walked back everything he ever said, then did a total 180.

Realistically, he, Zelensky and Putin should meet face to face. Or at least Trump and Putin. Things like this take time to set up, they are normally too big to do over the phone. But I'm sure Trump will get something done, I would expect results quickly within the next couple of weeks if it is going to happen, which are really the "24-hours" Trump metaphorically referred to.

Your ilk was braying the EXACT opposite 60 days ago.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Only if you are clueless.

Ukraine will never sign anything without third party security guarantees (NATO), because agreements with Russia are absolutely worthless. They will simply build up the army and re-invade ike they did with Chechnya.

Russia wants to ensure that Ukraine won't join NATO, turning its country into a bulwark against Russia. We should've never expanded NATO into Eastern Europe.

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[TimFitz]

I did not read this. Try to go beyond third grade and make paragraphs more than one sentence.

You did read it. You know it’s correct.

A one sentence paragraph is perfectly acceptable grammatically.

BTW, you don’t “amake” sentences, you write or say them. You make a cake.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Wise move that can speed up the Ukies' demise. The condescending much less intimidating tactics won't lead to anything healthy so he shouldn't have started his warm up to the dialog with threatening to impose another batch of useless sanctions if Putin does not back down. He won't. Bandera vermin must be extinguished.

Western sanctions just embolden and strengthen Putin, including all of the Russian people. Threatening Russia is just a bad idea.

 

[TimFitz]

Russia wants to ensure that Ukraine won't join NATO, turning its country into a bulwark against Russia. We should've never expanded NATO into Eastern Europe.

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We did not expand it.

Former Warsaw Pact nation rushed to join.

More joined aftervPutin started his war.

Putin’s more recent statements seem to reflect an admission that he is not going to achieve his primary goal.

He started the war by declaring that Ukraine was part of Russia and didn’t really exist as a nation. The behavior of the Russian forces in occupied Ukraine underline that statement. Putin and Russian media have also made it clear that overrunning Ukraine was the first step in re establishing Russian hegemony in Eastern Europe.

 

[TruthNotBS]

We did not expand it.

Former Warsaw Pact nation rushed to join.

More joined aftervPutin started his war.

Putin’s more recent statements seem to reflect an admission that he is not going to achieve his primary goal.

He started the war by declaring that Ukraine was part of Russia and didn’t really exist as a nation. The behavior of the Russian forces in occupied Ukraine underline that statement. Putin and Russian media have also made it clear that overrunning Ukraine was the first step in re establishing Russian hegemony in Eastern Europe.

We made the offer and the reason so many joined is due to the economic challenges of the 1990s, after the collapse of the USSR. They figured that joining NATO would allow them to become EU members and indeed that's what occurred. It was an economic decision, that would in the long run, potentially have a horrible outcome. If we end up fighting WW3 over NATO extending itself into Eastern Europe, then it wasn't worth it. The American military-industrial complex, made billions in the short term to eventually destroy America and perhaps the whole world in the long term. It wasn't worth it.

 

[AntonToo]

Russia wants to ensure that Ukraine won't join NATO, turning its country into a bulwark against Russia. We should've never expanded NATO into Eastern Europe.

Finland along with Sweeden told their neighboring Russia - damn, you are crazy, we are joining a defensive alliance called NATO.

They joined NATO a year later. According to you "turning their countries into bulwark against Russia"

You know what Russia did? Nothing. Putin shrugged shoulders and got back to propagating bs excuses for invasion of Ukraine to morons like you.

 

[Contumacious]

President Vladimir Putin said Russia’s ready for talks with the US on the war in Ukraine as he offered congratulations to Donald Trump on his inauguration as president.

Unfortunately , 22 GOP Senators who are members of the WARMONGER/NEOCRAZY wing will not support his cabinet choices like Tulsi Gabbard , Pete Hegseth if he doen't find a way to stick it to Russia

 

[AntonToo]

They figured that joining NATO would allow them to become EU members

BS peddler, Ukraine passed a LAW to remain a neutral country in 2010, it was only AFTER Russian invasion did they throw that law out and replaced it with NATO goals to ensure their security from law aggressor next door.

Ukraine will never sign anything with Russia that does not provide third party security guarantees.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Finland along with Sweeden told their neighboring Russia - damn, you are crazy, we are joining a defensive alliance called NATO.

They joined NATO a year later. According to you "turning their countries into bulwark against Russia"

You know what Russia did? Nothing. Putin shrugged shoulders and got back to propagating bs excuses for invasion of Ukraine to morons like you.

Are you comparing Sweden and Finland to Ukraine? Sweden and Finland are now less safe than they were before joining NATO. If Russia or China were to enter into a military alliance with a few countries in the Western Hemisphere (American continent), we may not go to war immediately or see that as an existential threat, provided the countries joining this "Russo-Latin American" or "Chinese-Latin American" alliance, aren't Mexico or Cuba. We have a redline, and what we allow in some countries on our continent may not be permitted in Mexico, Cuba, or the Dominican Republic.

Pretending that Russia has no legitimate security concerns or grievances with NATO expansion into its perceived sphere of influence, is quite naive, if not disingenuous. NATO is a Cold War dinosaur, that is inherently hostile to Russia, historically, operationally, doctrinally..etc. It was created to fight Russia.

 

[TruthNotBS]

BS peddler, Ukraine passed a LAW to remain a neutral country in 2010, it was only AFTER Russian invasion did they throw that law out and replaced it with NATO goals to ensure their security from law aggressor next door.

Ukraine was trying to join NATO way before 2010. But I wasn't even referring to Ukraine, but to the states that actually joined NATO in 2004, they were planning it since the 1990s. Poland was the first and since then others chose to join NATO, due mostly to the economic benefits of being an EU member. Russia was economically in shambles after the collapse of the USSR, in the early 2000s.

 

[TimFitz]

We made the offer and the reason so many joined is due to the economic challenges of the 1990s, after the collapse of the USSR. They figured that joining NATO would allow them to become EU members and indeed that's what occurred. It was an economic decision, that would in the long run, potentially have a horrible outcome. If we end up fighting WW3 over NATO extending itself into Eastern Europe, then it wasn't worth it. The American military-industrial complex, made billions in the short term to eventually destroy America and perhaps the whole world in the long term. It wasn't worth it.

I guess you must be a Russian troll.

 

[TimFitz]

Ukraine was trying to join NATO way before 2010. But I wasn't even referring to Ukraine, but to the states that actually joined NATO in 2004, they were planning it since the 1990s. Poland was the first and since then others chose to join NATO, due mostly to the economic benefits of being an EU member. Russia was economically in shambles after the collapse of the USSR, in the early 2000s.

The EU and NATO are not the same thing, as you continue to misconstrue.

 

[TruthNotBS]

I guess you must be a Russian troll.

I guess you can't defend your position without resorting to ad hominem logical fallacies. That's the refuge of a weak position. Attacking me personally isn't going to help you.

 

[TruthNotBS]

The EU and NATO are not the same thing, as you continue to misconstrue.

To join NATO back then, pretty much-secured membership in the EU. If you want to become an EU member, the fastest way to do that is to become a NATO base for Western powers, and you're in the club. That's what actually occurred.

 

[AntonToo]

Ukraine was trying to join NATO way before 2010.

And in 2010 Ukraine cancelled all those efforts and instituted a neutrality law. Their NATO direction was only re-instituted AFTER they were invaded by Russia and their land annexed.

If Russia wanted a neutral Ukraine all they had to do was not invade them.

 

[AntonToo]

To join NATO back then, pretty much-secured membership in the EU.

Bullshit peddler Ukraine had added NO-NATO law on the books as it pursued EU membership.

There are no NATO requirements for EU membership and in fact 5 countries in EU are not in NATO.