Krauthammer Exposes Obama Again

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The ever-insightful Doctor Charles Krauthammer once again reveals the duplicity that is all too common in Obama-speak...

Does He Lie?

By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, September 18, 2009



You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn't lie. He's too subtle for that. He . . . well, you judge.

Herewith three examples within a single speech -- the now-famous Obama-Wilson "you lie" address to Congress on health care -- of Obama's relationship with truth.

(1) "I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future," he solemnly pledged. "I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period."

Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, determined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama's very next sentence: "And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize."

This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there's absolutely nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not.

Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.

Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. "Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?"

(2) And then there's the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.

But more important, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we'd have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it's illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don't voluntarily turn themselves in.

When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a nonexistent problem?

(3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating "hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud" from Medicare.

That's not a lie. That's not even deception. That's just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse -- Meg Greenfield once called this phrase "the dread big three" -- as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.

Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health-care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare overspending is breaking the budget, why hasn't he gotten started on the painless billions in "waste and fraud" savings?

Obama doesn't lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health-care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things -- energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel's Law -- a crisis is a terrible thing to waste -- failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.

So on to the next gambit: selling health-care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office's demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform -- until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.

Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.

Slickness wasn't fatal to "Slick Willie" Clinton because he possessed a winning, nearly irresistible charm. Obama's persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.

Charles Krauthammer - Obama, Too Subtle to Lie, Misleads on Health Reform

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This is a really dumb argument. Saying illegal immigrants can buy health insurance with their own money is far removed from Wilson's claim that the government would be buying insurance for illegal immigrants. It would be like saying that since the government doesn't ban illegal immigrants from buying bread, that they are therefore providing them bread.
 
This is a really dumb argument. Saying illegal immigrants can buy health insurance with their own money is far removed from Wilson's claim that the government would be buying insurance for illegal immigrants. It would be like saying that since the government doesn't ban illegal immigrants from buying bread, that they are therefore providing them bread.

Sorry - but your post does nothing to diminish the brilliance of Dr. Krauthammer's showcasing of Obama's double-speak...
 
I just want to say Sinatra, in all my time on here, I've seen you bash Obama plenty of times yet never call out your own party when need be.

Seriously, posting every single article you agree with is a bit pointless when 2/3 of it is the same crap you see in three other threads.
 
I just want to say Sinatra, in all my time on here, I've seen you bash Obama plenty of times yet never call out your own party when need be.

Seriously, posting every single article you agree with is a bit pointless when 2/3 of it is the same crap you see in three other threads.
As I didn't get a chance to read the paper today, I enjoyed it.

Thanks, Sinatra.
 
BEst thing about Bill"the bloody" is he is
concomitantly wrong on most topics!
I've looked at this several times and still can't figure out to whom it refers. Perhaps someone can translate for me?
Do you have patriotic bumper sticker?
Do you wave the flag around from th rear of your pick up?
You are what they call a Yahoo sport! People are laughing at you not with you dopey!
 
I just want to say Sinatra, in all my time on here, I've seen you bash Obama plenty of times yet never call out your own party when need be.

Seriously, posting every single article you agree with is a bit pointless when 2/3 of it is the same crap you see in three other threads.
As I didn't get a chance to read the paper today, I enjoyed it.

Thanks, Sinatra.

You're welcome!
 
BEst thing about Bill"the bloody" is he is
concomitantly wrong on most topics!
I've looked at this several times and still can't figure out to whom it refers. Perhaps someone can translate for me?
Do you have patriotic bumper sticker?
Do you wave the flag around from th rear of your pick up?
You are what they call a Yahoo sport! People are laughing at you not with you dopey!
Still need a translation. Anyone? Anyone?
 
I can say it better than Krauthammer.

Obama will deny seniors the care they need and deserve and give it to illegal aliens. It's just that simple.
 
I've looked at this several times and still can't figure out to whom it refers. Perhaps someone can translate for me?
Do you have patriotic bumper sticker?
Do you wave the flag around from th rear of your pick up?
You are what they call a Yahoo sport! People are laughing at you not with you dopey!
Still need a translation. Anyone? Anyone?

I would just pass on trying to understand some in here. There are liberal participants in here who often make points both reasonable and at times, even correct!

Sadly, they remain the exception to the rule...
 
I just want to say Sinatra, in all my time on here, I've seen you bash Obama plenty of times yet never call out your own party when need be.

Seriously, posting every single article you agree with is a bit pointless when 2/3 of it is the same crap you see in three other threads.

nobody requires you to read sinatra's crap, just treat it like it's Fox news whydonchya roberto? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
I can say it better than Krauthammer.

Obama will deny seniors the care they need and deserve and give it to illegal aliens. It's just that simple.

Well, coming from my own academic background, I am not sure I would call that "better" than Krauthammer - but certainly to the point and just as correct! :eusa_angel:

The arrogance and/or stupidity of this administration to teleprompt a speech for the President where he indicates allowing existing illegals to become illegal so they can have access to the healthcare system just a week or so after telling Congress and the American people that his Obamacare plan would not give healthcare to illegals is astounding even by DC political standards.

Obama's most recent remarks are making the rounds - and people don't like 'em one bit...
 
when an illegal shows up in line at the obamaclinic and someone complains "hey, no illegals" the comeback will be "theres no law prohibiting illegals from getting treatment"
 
when an illegal shows up in line at the obamaclinic and someone complains "hey, no illegals" the comeback will be "theres no law prohibiting illegals from getting treatment"

Exactly - and that is what some Republicans attempted to point out when they presented an inclusion within the House healthcare bill to shut down that obvious loophole. The Democrat leadership of course said no - TWICE, thus ensuring that illegals will in fact be able to get healthcare. Obama has upped that protection by now stating that these illegals will simply be made legal, and thus, the bill will not give healthcare to illegals. Until a few years later when we have another 3 million or so illegals pouring in, at which point we will be back to "There's no law prohibiting illegals from getting treatment."

DC Duplicity at its horrific best!
 
Krauthammer is the man. I always have enjoyed reading his articles.

He used to give Bush the same grief he is giving Obama, when warranted.

Yes he did - sometimes scathing rebukes of Bush and the Republicans.

He warned them to shape up - they didn't listen...
 
This is a really dumb argument. Saying illegal immigrants can buy health insurance with their own money is far removed from Wilson's claim that the government would be buying insurance for illegal immigrants. It would be like saying that since the government doesn't ban illegal immigrants from buying bread, that they are therefore providing them bread.

Sorry - but your post does nothing to diminish the brilliance of Dr. Krauthammer's showcasing of Obama's double-speak...

Of course Krauthammer has a silver tongue himself. He is wrong that nothing is yet being done about Medicare fraud and abuse. A lot is being done already.

NWV News - Critics Say Obama-Care Prescription for Fraud and Abuse

Authorities Crackdown On Major Medicare Fraud In Detroit - Kaiser Health News
 

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