KItty Werthman, holocaust survivor, tells how gun control happened under the national socialist workers party (nazis.)

[Hollie]

Again, never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, so it wasn't a grievance.

The British Monarch by 1776 was a figurehead. Parliament ran the country. The big complaint was 1) The colonies weren't represented, 2) They were making the rich pay their fair share for the war they started with France and the Native Americans, 3) They weren't letting colonists steal more of the Native Americans' land and 4) they were deathly afraid parliament would outlaw slavery.

They really didn't give a hoot about the Anglican Church.

Again, ''other matters'' weren't mentioned in the DOI. Being ignorant of history, you aren't aware that the DOI, while being a stirring document, its importance is acknowledged, but it is not the legal basis for the nation nor how the nation functions or what its limits are. That is, has been, and always will be the Constitution, and all arguments regarding what the nation is permitted to do is contained within that document (with a nod to expansion vis a vis constitutional amendments)

 

[2aguy]

The Swiss were prepared to blow up the passes and the tunnels.

Gun ownership was strict after WW1... It got easier after Hitler.

On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars

Say the words "gun registration" to many pro-gun Americans and you are likely to hear that one of the first things that Hitler did when he seized power was to impose strict gun registration requirements that enabled him to identify gun owners and then to confiscate all guns, effectively...

scholarship.law.columbia.edu

Agai.....since you guys are liars and clods.......the socialists took guns away from the people they planned on murdering....and they mirdered 15 million innocent men, women and children.

Our democrat party wants to disarm all Americans.....

 

[2aguy]

The Swiss were prepared to blow up the passes and the tunnels.

Gun ownership was strict after WW1... It got easier after Hitler.

On Gun Registration, the NRA, Adolf Hitler, and Nazi Gun Laws: Exploding the Gun Culture Wars

Say the words "gun registration" to many pro-gun Americans and you are likely to hear that one of the first things that Hitler did when he seized power was to impose strict gun registration requirements that enabled him to identify gun owners and then to confiscate all guns, effectively...

scholarship.law.columbia.edu

From your link you dumb asd....

Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.

 

[JoeB131]

From your link you dumb asd....

Second, the Nazi gun laws of 1938 specifically banned Jewish persons from obtaining a license to manufacture firearms or ammunition. Third, approximately eight months after enacting the 1938 Nazi gun laws, Hitler imposed regulations prohibiting Jewish persons from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms.

Guy, there were only 500,000 Jews residing in Germany out of 70 million

So for 69,500,000 Germans, the gun laws were loosened, and for 500,000 Jews, the gun laws were tightened.

But this funny thing happened. When the SS Came for the Jews, no German with a gun ran out and said, "You can't take Goldstein, he's my friend!"

Just like when the US Government came for the Japanese Americans, no American ran out with a gun and said, 'You can't take Tanaka, he's my friend!"

Guns don't protect you from government tyranny, misconduct, or stupidity.

What did happen was that those Germans with their privately owned guns, when the Wehrmacht was crushed, ran out and joined Volkgrenadier battalions made up of old men and little boys who were easily crushed by the Allies. They fought for Hitler to the last man.

 

[2aguy]

Guy, there were only 500,000 Jews residing in Germany out of 70 million

So for 69,500,000 Germans, the gun laws were loosened, and for 500,000 Jews, the gun laws were tightened.

But this funny thing happened. When the SS Came for the Jews, no German with a gun ran out and said, "You can't take Goldstein, he's my friend!"

Just like when the US Government came for the Japanese Americans, no American ran out with a gun and said, 'You can't take Tanaka, he's my friend!"

Guns don't protect you from government tyranny, misconduct, or stupidity.

What did happen was that those Germans with their privately owned guns, when the Wehrmacht was crushed, ran out and joined Volkgrenadier battalions made up of old men and little boys who were easily crushed by the Allies. They fought for Hitler to the last man.

Yeah....by the time the SS was rounding up Jews and political enemies it was already too late.......the time to stop them is when they were thugs in the street, working for the party, beating up anyone who said a bad word about the socialists.......that is when the guns stop the crap. When the guns have been rounded up, when the Secret Police are already rounding people up....you have already become too passive a people to stop them......

That is why when they come to burn, loot and murder in riots....like blm/antifa.....errrr...I mean the national socialists.....you shoot them......then they know they can't intimidate their way to power...

 

[2aguy]

2aguy Gun laws were much stricter after WW1. Didn't you read the article I posted?

Doesn't matter....the socialists disarmed the people they went on to murder....15 million of them. More people murdered by the Europeans in 6 years than the entire 246 year history of gun murder in the U.S....

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah....by the time the SS was rounding up Jews and political enemies it was already too late.......the time to stop them is when they were thugs in the street, working for the party, beating up anyone who said a bad word about the socialists.......that is when the guns stop the crap. When the guns have been rounded up, when the Secret Police are already rounding people up....you have already become too passive a people to stop them......

Or... the average German had no problem with anything Hitler was doing.

Let's be honest, if Hitler had died in 1939 before the War Started, he'd probably be remembered as Germany's greatest Chancellor since Bismarck. He brought back the economy, rebuilt the military, reunited Austria and the Sudetenland under German rule.

And even the first few years of the War, Germany was winning.

So when did Hitler seem to be a bad idea to most Germans? 1943, 1944?

Doesn't matter....the socialists disarmed the people they went on to murder....15 million of them. More people murdered by the Europeans in 6 years than the entire 246 year history of gun murder in the U.S....

Most of the people they murdered didn't live in Germany, they lived in countries Germany defeated militarily.
So your logic doesn't track. Germans taking guns away from Jews in Germany (most of whom fled to Palestine or America) really didn't do much to hinder the Jews in Poland.

 

[2aguy]

Or... the average German had no problem with anything Hitler was doing.

Let's be honest, if Hitler had died in 1939 before the War Started, he'd probably be remembered as Germany's greatest Chancellor since Bismarck. He brought back the economy, rebuilt the military, reunited Austria and the Sudetenland under German rule.

And even the first few years of the War, Germany was winning.

So when did Hitler seem to be a bad idea to most Germans? 1943, 1944?



Most of the people they murdered didn't live in Germany, they lived in countries Germany defeated militarily.
So your logic doesn't track. Germans taking guns away from Jews in Germany (most of whom fled to Palestine or America) really didn't do much to hinder the Jews in Poland.

Yeah....before the mass murder and genocide.......

Yes...the governments of Europe, disarmed their people in the 1920s......the socialists finished up that effort when they defeated those countries....and had little opposition during the occupation.....except for Switzerland, which they didn't invade because they had 435,000 civilians armed with military rifles ready to resist.........

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah....before the mass murder and genocide.......

Yes...the governments of Europe, disarmed their people in the 1920s......the socialists finished up that effort when they defeated those countries....and had little opposition during the occupation.....except for Switzerland, which they didn't invade because they had 435,000 civilians armed with military rifles ready to resist.........

Switzerland wasn't invaded for the same reason Sweden wasn't. They were happy to stay neutral and do business with the Nazis.

"Hey, there's a tooth in this gold. How did that get there?"

 

[2aguy]

Switzerland wasn't invaded for the same reason Sweden wasn't. They were happy to stay neutral and do business with the Nazis.

"Hey, there's a tooth in this gold. How did that get there?"

They were armed to the teeth.....the socialists hated Switzerland and would have happily stomped on them....but they had 435,000 civilians armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion....so the socialists gave them a pass...

 

[JoeB131]

They were armed to the teeth.....the socialists hated Switzerland and would have happily stomped on them....but they had 435,000 civilians armed with military rifles ready to fight any invasion....so the socialists gave them a pass...

Why would they hate Switzerland? Switzerland was a great place to launder their ill-gotten goods.
There's still stolen Nazi Loot they haven't returned to the rightful owners or their heirs.

Switzerland mulls a commission to judge Nazi-looted art claims - SWI swissinfo.ch

The Swiss parliament is set to debate a new framework for handling claims for art looted from Jews by the Nazis or sold under duress.

www.swissinfo.ch

Swiss museum gives up 40 Nazi-looted treasures from Gurlitt trove, keeps 1,000 items

Museum of Fine Arts Bern giving up pieces it concludes were stolen by the Nazis or of doubtful origin, but retaining most despite their provenance remaining unproven

www.timesofisrael.com

The Sinister Face Of 'Neutrality' | FRONTLINE | PBS

www.pbs.org

 

[2aguy]

Why would they hate Switzerland? Switzerland was a great place to launder their ill-gotten goods.
There's still stolen Nazi Loot they haven't returned to the rightful owners or their heirs.

Switzerland mulls a commission to judge Nazi-looted art claims - SWI swissinfo.ch

The Swiss parliament is set to debate a new framework for handling claims for art looted from Jews by the Nazis or sold under duress.

www.swissinfo.ch

Swiss museum gives up 40 Nazi-looted treasures from Gurlitt trove, keeps 1,000 items

Museum of Fine Arts Bern giving up pieces it concludes were stolen by the Nazis or of doubtful origin, but retaining most despite their provenance remaining unproven

www.timesofisrael.com

The Sinister Face Of 'Neutrality' | FRONTLINE | PBS

www.pbs.org

Moron……..my link explained exactly why they hated Switzerland and why they still didn’t invade……an armed population ready to fight.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Holy shit, Q-NUT.
MTG sounds like a harvard professor, compared to you.

 

[2aguy]

Why would they hate Switzerland? Switzerland was a great place to launder their ill-gotten goods.
There's still stolen Nazi Loot they haven't returned to the rightful owners or their heirs.

Switzerland mulls a commission to judge Nazi-looted art claims - SWI swissinfo.ch

The Swiss parliament is set to debate a new framework for handling claims for art looted from Jews by the Nazis or sold under duress.

www.swissinfo.ch

Swiss museum gives up 40 Nazi-looted treasures from Gurlitt trove, keeps 1,000 items

Museum of Fine Arts Bern giving up pieces it concludes were stolen by the Nazis or of doubtful origin, but retaining most despite their provenance remaining unproven

www.timesofisrael.com

The Sinister Face Of 'Neutrality' | FRONTLINE | PBS

www.pbs.org

Yeah...no...hitler hated the Swiss.....

That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us."

Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.
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The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million.


Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS

 

[JoeB131]

Moron……..my link explained exactly why they hated Switzerland and why they still didn’t invade……an armed population ready to fight.

Switzerland's population in 1940 was 4 million compared to 80 million for Germany and 45 Million for Italy.

The axis also didn't invade Monaco, Andorra, Liechtenstein, or San Marino... because there was no need to.

Yeah...no...hitler hated the Swiss.....

Hitler hated everyone... what's your point? The guy was 99% pure fucking hate.
But the fact was, the Swiss were laundering Nazi loot, so there was no good reason to invade them.

Every country Hitler invaded, there was a reason to invade it, either because they had land that Germany claimed or wanted, or they were an idealogical enemy like Stalin.

Or because Mussolini fucked up and got himself into trouble, but that's another issue.

There were a whole lot of countries he could have invaded, but chose not to because...frankly there wasn't a good reason to. Some of them threw in with him by joining the Axis, some of them stayed neutral and kept doing business with them until the war ended.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And China's a Republic....

You clowns are the kings of identity politics.

Communist, Fascist and Socialists are just others ways of calling someone a Progressive