KItty Werthman, holocaust survivor, tells how gun control happened under the national socialist workers party (nazis.)

[sealybobo]

No, I leave my keys in my vehicle(s) also...

I leave my keys in my truck too. Of course I don't leave them on the seat where anyone can look in and see them. I drop them just under the seat where I can reach down and grab them but anyone who looks into my car can't see them.

 

[JoeB131]

Total fucking lie.
In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, Hitler’s National Socialist German Workers’ Party, seized power and used the records to identify, disarm and attack both political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches and seizures ensued for guns and dissident publications. Police revoked gun licenses of all those who were deemed not “politically reliable” to Nazism.

Oppressing a hated minority is not the same thing as gun control.

Point was, your average German had plenty of access to guns. Not a one of them rushed out to save their Jewish neighbors or oppose the Nazis. They did, however, take those guns and fight to the last old man and little boy in the Volksgrenadiers, when the allied Armies entered Germany with a can of whoop-ass.

 

[22lcidw]

Oppressing a hated minority is not the same thing as gun control.

Point was, your average German had plenty of access to guns. Not a one of them rushed out to save their Jewish neighbors or oppose the Nazis. They did, however, take those guns and fight to the last old man and little boy in the Volksgrenadiers, when the allied Armies entered Germany with a can of whoop-ass.

We can take not helping others in many ways. The riots/terrorists in the cities are a prime example. Crime in the same areas has groups of people attacking others regularly with now help from others.

 

[AMart]

Oppressing a hated minority is not the same thing as gun control.

Point was, your average German had plenty of access to guns. Not a one of them rushed out to save their Jewish neighbors or oppose the Nazis. They did, however, take those guns and fight to the last old man and little boy in the Volksgrenadiers, when the allied Armies entered Germany with a can of whoop-ass.

Sure they did, but you don't rush in with a few guns against a security force with 100 guns.
During the Holocaust, Jewish partisan groups and underground resistance networks launched attacks, sabotage operations and rescue missions. Resistance groups in ghettos organised social, religious, cultural and educational activities and armed uprisings in defiance of their oppressors. In death camps, in the most extreme circumstances, resisters gathered evidence of Nazi atrocities and even mounted armed rebellions.

Jewish Resistance to the Holocaust - The Wiener Holocaust Library

Due to popular demand this exhibition, which draws upon the Library's unique archival collections to tell the often untold story of Jewish resistance, will be returning for a limited run in September 2021.

wienerholocaustlibrary.org

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

The Nazis wanted to confiscate ALL weapons from those who were not on their side.

Gun control in the US DOES NOT take away anyone's weapons. States are themselves putting bans on Assault like weapons to be sold to civilians.

There is a need for background checks.

A lot of Republicans are for all of these measures. This has nothing to do with focusing on the left and saying The LEFT, THE LEFT, THE LEFT.


Nazis were a different kind of socialist.

Shall not be infringed and the moment someone uses the term "assault weapon" they should be immediately ignored for being uninformed.

 

[scruffy]

Yeah, that is funny since the first official act of the Nazis when they came to power was to get rid of the Communists.

Only a totally ignorant leftard would use that irrelevant fact as an excuse.

That's like saying the Hillary faction ran over Bernie. Double fuckin duh.

Why don't you crack a history book, leftard? Stop bleating about stuff you don't know about.

 

[Magnus]

Only a totally ignorant leftard would use that irrelevant fact as an excuse.

That's like saying the Hillary faction ran over Bernie. Double fuckin duh.

Why don't you crack a history book, leftard? Stop bleating about stuff you don't know about.

Awww... what's the matter, retard... did my bringing up facts burst your fantasy bubble? Awwww.

See, this is what happens when you wander out of your echo bubble. You sometimes have to face the hard facts. Thoughts and prayers.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Gun control in the US DOES NOT take away anyone's weapons.

Tell us about red flag laws.

States are themselves putting bans on Assault like weapons to be sold to civilians.

Why do you believe these will survive the trip to the USSC?

There is a need for background checks.

You cannot demonstrate this to be true.
You also cannot demonstrate how background checks are consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.

A lot of Republicans are for all of these measures. This has nothing to do with focusing on the left and saying The LEFT, THE LEFT, THE LEFT.

How many of these measures have been intoduced into congress and state legislatures by Republicans?
How many by Democrats?

Nazis were a different kind of socialist.

But socialists none the less.

 

[2aguy]

Oppressing a hated minority is not the same thing as gun control.

Point was, your average German had plenty of access to guns. Not a one of them rushed out to save their Jewish neighbors or oppose the Nazis. They did, however, take those guns and fight to the last old man and little boy in the Volksgrenadiers, when the allied Armies entered Germany with a can of whoop-ass.

Yeah......as long as they were in the party....if they were Jews or enemies of the socialists, they had all of their arms taken, even old WW1 rifles, daggers and swords...you doofus......

 

[2aguy]

Sure they did, but you don't rush in with a few guns against a security force with 100 guns.
During the Holocaust, Jewish partisan groups and underground resistance networks launched attacks, sabotage operations and rescue missions. Resistance groups in ghettos organised social, religious, cultural and educational activities and armed uprisings in defiance of their oppressors. In death camps, in the most extreme circumstances, resisters gathered evidence of Nazi atrocities and even mounted armed rebellions.

Jewish Resistance to the Holocaust - The Wiener Holocaust Library

Due to popular demand this exhibition, which draws upon the Library's unique archival collections to tell the often untold story of Jewish resistance, will be returning for a limited run in September 2021.

wienerholocaustlibrary.org

And they will never acknowledge that the Swiss didn't have a Holocaust........their people were armed to the teeth..with military rifles.....

 

[JoeB131]

Sure they did, but you don't rush in with a few guns against a security force with 100 guns.
During the Holocaust, Jewish partisan groups and underground resistance networks launched attacks, sabotage operations and rescue missions. Resistance groups in ghettos organised social, religious, cultural and educational activities and armed uprisings in defiance of their oppressors.

Actually, nothing of the sort happened in Germany. Countries that Germany occuppied, sure...

 

[JoeB131]

And they will never acknowledge that the Swiss didn't have a Holocaust........their people were armed to the teeth..with military rifles.....

No, the Swiss just cashed in the gold the Nazis extracted from Jewish Teeth.

 

[AMart]

Actually, nothing of the sort happened in Germany. Countries that Germany occuppied, sure...

Nope you are speculating. I bet japanese Americans were not armed. Which is why it was so easy for fdr to round them up and send them to concentration camps.

 

[JoeB131]

Nope you are speculating. I bet japanese Americans were not armed. Which is why it was so easy for fdr to round them up and send them to concentration camps.

Why wouldn't they be armed.

The point is, no white people ran out with their guns to save them.

Because people are basically cowards.

If the ATF showed up at your door tomorrow, I promise you, not a single one of your neighbors would get involved.

 

[AMart]

Why wouldn't they be armed.

The point is, no white people ran out with their guns to save them.

Because people are basically cowards.

If the ATF showed up at your door tomorrow, I promise you, not a single one of your neighbors would get involved.

Joe there are a billion interactions from the WW2 era of armed Germans that never made it to the history books. There are many reasons we were taught that not only did fdr know about pearl harbor he made sure it happened.

 

[JoeB131]

Joe there are a billion interactions from the WW2 era of armed Germans that never made it to the history books. There are many reasons we were taught that not only did fdr know about pearl harbor he made sure it happened.

A billion, Really?

And now you are going into bizarre conspiracy theories about Pearl Harbor? You go, son!

Reality check, Germans were completely behind Hitler all the way up until the day Berlin Fell. After the war, they all claimed they had no idea what was going on in the camps. It's why Sgt. Schultz and his "I know nothink! Nothink!" was so funny to Americans after the war. We knew the Germans were full of shit, but we allied ourselves to them because we were more scared of the Russians now. (And I say that as an American of German ancestry).

Sure, you had the pacifists of the White Rose... the whole three of them Hitler had guillotined. Or the July 21st Plotters, where the majority of Germans thought they were traitors for decades after the war. (Only modern revisionists have made them heroes.)

I used to be mystified why Germans who are smart people would follow a buffoon like Hitler. Then I watched a bunch of American get behind Trump, and support him even as he watched the country burn to the ground.

In short, guns don't protect you from dictatorship. Ever.

 

[Hollie]

A billion, Really?

And now you are going into bizarre conspiracy theories about Pearl Harbor? You go, son!

Reality check, Germans were completely behind Hitler all the way up until the day Berlin Fell. After the war, they all claimed they had no idea what was going on in the camps. It's why Sgt. Schultz and his "I know nothink! Nothink!" was so funny to Americans after the war. We knew the Germans were full of shit, but we allied ourselves to them because we were more scared of the Russians now. (And I say that as an American of German ancestry).

Sure, you had the pacifists of the White Rose... the whole three of them Hitler had guillotined. Or the July 21st Plotters, where the majority of Germans thought they were traitors for decades after the war. (Only modern revisionists have made them heroes.)

I used to be mystified why Germans who are smart people would follow a buffoon like Hitler. Then I watched a bunch of American get behind Trump, and support him even as he watched the country burn to the ground.

In short, guns don't protect you from dictatorship. Ever.

"guns don't protect you from dictatorship. Ever."

Sorry, bumpkin. The very founding of this nation proves otherwise.

 

[JoeB131]

"guns don't protect you from dictatorship. Ever."

Sorry, bumpkin. The very founding of this nation proves otherwise.

We weren't fighting against dictatorship.

We were fighting because some rich slave owners didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes to a government that was going to eventually abolish slavery.

I know this hurts your tender sensitivities, but the Founding Fathers saved us from being Canadians.... That just doesn't sound that bad.

 

[Hollie]

We weren't fighting against dictatorship.

We were fighting because some rich slave owners didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes to a government that was going to eventually abolish slavery.

I know this hurts your tender sensitivities, but the Founding Fathers saved us from being Canadians.... That just doesn't sound that bad.

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Um, yeah. We were fighting against the dictatorship of the Anglican church.

Not much on history, are ya'?

Don't let your injured, tender sensibilities get in the way of your profound ignorance.

 

[surada]

Do you lock your doors at night?

After WW1 the Weimar republic had very strict gun laws. Hitler took guns from Jews and Socialists but otherwise he made gun ownership much easier.

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