Kinzinger: in 5 or 10 years, you won't find a single American who will admit to voting or supporting Trump. it's like supporting Nixon after Watergate

Progs have gotten a lot of success over the years. Repubs not so much and they have had opportunities. We have gone too far left. And now the Progs are clamoring that we are not left far enough.
Well let's be honest. In a lot of ways the righties have pulled us to the right even though their policies aren't popular. They insist on tax breaks to the rich, we give them what they want. Deregulations, we give it to them. Abortion, they get what they want. Conservative justices on the bench, they got it. Gerrymandered states that do not represent the people. Can't say gay.

I'd say conservatives have been very successful pulling the country more to the right. Consider this. Reagan today would be a Democrat.
 
It’s NOT just Trump! It started decades ago. It’s Nixon, Gingrich, Reagan. It’s the Federalist Society. Everything ‘for profit’, privatization of services, ‘trickle down’ economics. Today it’s Roe, tomorrow it will be Obergefell then Griswold & Brown v Board of Education. It’s the GOP!


I've been saying that for a while.

Just like you can't find a Bush supporter these days.

"He kept us safe!" "Where's your flag pin, you terrorist-lover!"
 
Yeah, I don't think I buy that.

This has gone far beyond politics for these people. This is their life, their culture, their religion.
You could be right. But Bush was their religion 20 years ago, too.

Trump is no Reagan. He's the antipole of Reagan.


But you may be right since Bush was just wrong, while Trump consciously lies. After swallowing thousands of lies, it is virtually impossible for a rube to admit they were that stupid. So it is quite possible they will go to their graves completely deluded.
 
LMAO so making America great again, pulling us out of wars, not starting wars, superheating the economy, pulling minorities out of poverty, lower fuel prices, less government regulation wasn't popular? Trump will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents of all time. :eusa_hand:
Since Trump was elected on third base and you tards think he hit a triple, care to name what policies created all these cool things?

Low gas prices? Yeah, that was the pandemic.

The only significant legislation Trump got passed was a tax cut which added to the deficit.

He did absolutely nothing else but brag about shit he had nothing to do with.

He couldn't even get a repeal and replace of Obamacare passed when he had full power. Hell, he couldn't even get a PARTIAL repeal passed! :lol:

He was the weakest and worst and most incompetent president ever.
 
You could be right. But Bush was their religion 20 years ago, too.

Trump is no Reagan. He's the antipole of Reagan.


But you may be right since Bush was just wrong, while Trump consciously lies. After swallowing thousands of lies, it is virtually impossible for a rube to admit they were that stupid. So it is quite possible they will go to their graves completely deluded.
This is one helluva study, that's for sure.
 
You could be right. But Bush was their religion 20 years ago, too.

Trump is no Reagan. He's the antipole of Reagan.


But you may be right since Bush was just wrong, while Trump consciously lies. After swallowing thousands of lies, it is virtually impossible for a rube to admit they were that stupid. So it is quite possible they will go to their graves completely deluded.
Trump is the antipole of Biden. Smart, alpha, accomplished, athletic, good instincts, coherent.
 
Or Bush after Iraq
It’s 20 years later, and I affirm I voted for Bush. Based on the Intelligence he saw, Iraq was a threat and they had just scene US hit in the Achilles heal. Democrats saw the same Intelligence he did. Most supported him before they found it politically convenient to change their views and create the myth he fooled them.
 
It’s 20 years later, and I affirm I voted for Bush. Based on the Intelligence he saw, Iraq was a threat and they had just scene US hit in the Achilles heal. Democrats saw the same Intelligence he did. Most supported him before they found it politically convenient to change their views and create the myth he fooled them.
Stove piped raw intel manipulated to produce an intended result

But hey. I'll give you credit for staying with the sunken ship
 
Since Trump was elected on third base and you tards think he hit a triple, care to name what policies created all these cool things?

Low gas prices? Yeah, that was the pandemic.

The only significant legislation Trump got passed was a tax cut which added to the deficit.

He did absolutely nothing else but brag about shit he had nothing to do with.

He couldn't even get a repeal and replace of Obamacare passed when he had full power. Hell, he couldn't even get a PARTIAL repeal passed! :lol:

He was the weakest and worst and most incompetent president ever.
Lib please Trump whooped your ass. :eusa_hand:
 
The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office.
Putin could not be more proud of his protégé. A Russian agent provocateur could not have done a better job, and millions of Americans support the former President.

America fights back.

CNN reports, "The prime-time finale of the compelling and highly produced television saga otherwise known as the House January 6 hearings on Thursday presented a horror show of presidential dereliction of duty and a cliffhanger promise to return with even more damaging evidence against Donald Trump in September."

The committee "embroidered a broader narrative of an out-of-control President who put his own fantastical belief he won an election above more than two centuries of democratic tradition and the national interest. And, most chillingly, it is advancing a case – in the words of a key witness, retired conservative Judge J. Michael Luttig – that Trump remains “a clear and present danger” to US democracy."

CNN continued, "At the start of these hearings, it seemed a stretch that the committee could build a case with criminal implications for the ex-President. That could be changing. Some seasoned lawyers believe that the committee has indeed established evidence of intent by Trump to precipitate the horrendous events leading up to and on January 6 – an important component to any court case.

"But then there is the question of whether a potential prosecution of Trump, as a former President, would be in the national interest – since it could potentially rip even deeper partisan divides in an already internally estranged nation. Establishing a precedent that a former President could be liable to criminal action could be dangerous since it could be misused by future commanders-in-chief to go after their predecessors. These issues could become even more explosive since Trump may soon launch a presidential campaign that would make it easier for him to claim the investigation against him is politically motivated."

Putin is loving this
 

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