Due process is required or you’re advocating fascism.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was deported to El Salvador, is on his way back to the U.S. to face criminal charges - human trafficking. He's been indicted
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Andrew_Jackson_FTW
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The issue of course …..as always has been the left portraying the guy as a father and a bulls fan …..forget about his controversies though including his own wife calling the cops for domestic violence.
That last point. …don’t think I’ve seen any lefties here bring that up ….i mean he has a Chicago bulls hat on so
Um he already had a deportation hearing in 2019
After which he wasn’t deported. If his status changed, there has to be a hearing.
So? The deportation order was still valid and still is
how’s his status changed? He’s not become legal all the sudden
There was no deportation order. He had an order of protection preventing him from being sent to El Salvador, which Trump violated.
MAGA lies. If I’m lying, why is a MD judge ordering his return?
A MD judge hasn’t ordered his return
Yes there was a valid deportation order, he was illegal and lost his aslylum claim
The deportation order did however say he had legit claims of fear from a rival cartel and ordered his deportation anywhere but home. That was missed 6 years later. A federal court, the scotus, ordered that the Trump admin make easier his return and follow the order correctly
They have, he’s back in the United States under federal indictment for his terrorist activities. The only question now is do they prosecute him or deport him again
JoeB131
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So it means he's a fan of the Chicago Bulls.
As for the domestic violence claims, his wife dropped those charges and they reconciled. Sorry, relationships are messy and shit happens.
Let's bottom line this. Trump screwed up. He admitted he screwed up, but said, "Whoops, too late now, El Salvador has him!" The Courts did their job and told him, "Nope!" Then he tried to throw everything against the wall. "Oops, he was a wife beater because the cops broke up a fight once." "Oops, he's a gang member, because we have this fake picture someone clusily photoshoppped." "Oops, he's a human trafficker because he gave some guys a ride to a job site once."
Eventually, this will be heard by a court and found to be bullshit, but not after Trump drags this shit out for years hoping we all forget about it.
TimFitz
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His status hadn’t changed.
The ICE railroaded him, while you cheered.
No rule of law, no due process. And a President determined to use the affair as a test to defy the Supreme Court.
And you cheered.
Now you sing right out of the other side of your mouth.
Correct the deport order is still there, he’s still an illegal
JoeB131
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Actually, no, he isn't.
He has a legal right to stay because he is married to a US Citizen. This is why Trump is so keen to convict him of something, anything, to save face.
Yes, yes he is. Take it up with the immigration court that found he was. Actually, he admitted it.
JoeB131
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The immigration court found that he could not be deported.
And being married to an American citizen, he has a right to residency.
No, they said he was deportable to anywhere but El Salavador, because of legit threats of his rival gang. But deportable anywhere else. That order still exist.
The Trump admin can do one of three things now
1) prosecute him for the indictments, then deport him.
2) deport him to a third country (right now)
3) or go back to the immigration court and highlight the threat no longer exist, and deport him back to his home.
JoeB131
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Actually, you are confused.
He's married to a US citizen. Trump has to legally get a conviction in order to deport him and deny him residency.
No third country is going to take him, and the fact that El Salvador threw him into the nastiest prison they could find deflates the argument he wouldn't be in peril if returned there.
So Trump's only path forward is to hope he can get a conviction on the bogus human trafficking charge. But more likely, he just hopes to drag this thing out for years to make it go away.
I think you are.
1) the fact he's married to a US citizen isn't relevant
2) cite the code section in the immigration law that requires a conviction before deporting an illegal....he's already been found deportable by an immigration judge for being here illegally.
3) I do agree, finding a third country to take him might be hard given his status as a terrorist, but we can certainly ask. South Sudan has been willing to take some violent criminal illegals already. The fact someone is wanted for crimes in their home country isn't part of the equation. The issue was, and why the judge gave him the protection from going home, was because of threats from a rival gang, that threat doesn't exist anymore. He could of course make another claim.
Rawley
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Your ignorance is frightening
pknopp
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They took him only after Trump gave them 15 million dollars.
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